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Posted
21 hours ago, webfact said:

When issued a traffic citation for these infractions, the visitor bizarrely ingested the ticket, washing it down with water, surprising officers and bystanders alike.

Write him a second one with an added penalty

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Posted
11 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

politicize? just noticing. I find this very hard to believe though. I know Thai's adopt and adapt American slang and person of color only makes senes if you comparing them against people with white skin, i.e. no color. I've only ever heard Thai people say "black skin color" or black person, but never person of color which AKAIK is solely an American term to describe non-whites or what they used to call minorities (probably gearing up for the a non-white majority so the term minority is no longer relevant, there's a politicized something).

 

 

Thais themselves have been discussing the various terms for a long time and are divided on what they think is the most polite/proper or what sounds discriminatory. I've heard a number of discussions with no clear winning idea on what term to use. And it isn't only in terms of foreigners' skin tones, but often regarding themselves with virtually no thought about foreigners. It isn't particularly an issue of international concern, but of local concern. They call each other different terms for the various tones their skin may have. Some think that saying ผิวสี is more polite, being more indirect, while others think being more explicit about the color or tone is more proper. Re the darker end of the spectrum, one of my friends prefers simply to say ไอ้มืด 😅

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Posted
20 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

You really should have stopped at, "This guy is so stupid" and saved your proselytising for when you get "back home".

Proselytising or just telling the truth? Like he says, tell the truth and you will be branded a racist. 

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Posted
13 hours ago, G_Money said:


Time to open your eyes.

 

I see Thais pulled over just as often.  Yes I do.

It might depend on where it is happening. Random road blocks out of town, I might agree, but I watched them at work on The Beach Rd once in  front of the station. Definitely picking out more farangs.... they were helping by mostly not wearing helmets though.  

It is collection season for the big party. 

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Who cares what colour the person is or where they are from,, the point should be very clear that the police here are racist towards anyone not Thai and there always trying to shake us down for money even when as so many pointed out Thai people are riding past without a helmut,, if these people don't want us here then just tell us we can leave and spend our money in another country that wants us in,,,, simple.

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I was at the police national day in isan a few years back brought a load of whiskey had a party , cost maybe 5k Thai money. Next day I'm on my bike heading from the wife's village to kk , the same cop tryed pulling me over for his 200 bht , I run the dickhead over . Harleys are useful 

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Posted
21 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Are the police the same as UK police and not trained in restraint?

 

Try that in Sydney Australia  and unfortunately and I do say unfortunately they would of used their chokehold procedures ( which should be banned) to put him on the ground 

What were they going to do if he walked away like he was doing ?

 

Lack of training ?

You don't know what you are talking about.

In UK, arrest and restraint training is mandatory.

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1 hour ago, Sig said:

Thais themselves have been discussing the various terms for a long time and are divided on what they think is the most polite/proper or what sounds discriminatory. I've heard a number of discussions with no clear winning idea on what term to use. And it isn't only in terms of foreigners' skin tones, but often regarding themselves with virtually no thought about foreigners. It isn't particularly an issue of international concern, but of local concern. They call each other different terms for the various tones their skin may have. Some think that saying ผิวสี is more polite, being more indirect, while others think being more explicit about the color or tone is more proper. Re the darker end of the spectrum, one of my friends prefers simply to say ไอ้มืด 😅

I have heard Thais use the term "Chocolate man" in English. I don't think it was meant to be racist in any way. Rather a lack of vocabulary in what is not their mother tongue... But I might be wrong.

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Posted
14 hours ago, AlwaysThere said:

 

No you don't. I see only tourists pulled over. Though agree that skin colour likely did not play a part. Just an obvious tourist with no helmet and no shirt. 

 

and no brain

Posted
21 hours ago, gk10012001 said:

Not wearing a helmet as were a large number of motorcycle drivers and riders that go by that are not wearing a helmet and are not stopped.

Quite so, did they pick the odd one out?:whistling:

Posted
21 hours ago, gk10012001 said:

Not wearing a helmet as were a large number of motorcycle drivers and riders that go by that are not wearing a helmet and are not stopped.

Basically Thais don't get stopped in Pattaya only for show, the fines are 500 baht for a helmet or license violation and 1000 baht for running a red light.

Yet do most tourists actually pay there fines or do they bin them and fly home, as never heard of anyone stopped from leaving Thailand  for these offences.

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13 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

politicize? just noticing. I find this very hard to believe though. I know Thai's adopt and adapt American slang and person of color only makes senes if you comparing them against people with white skin, i.e. no color. I've only ever heard Thai people say "black skin color" or black person, but never person of color which AKAIK is solely an American term to describe non-whites or what they used to call minorities (probably gearing up for the a non-white majority so the term minority is no longer relevant, there's a politicized something).

 

 

Your first post expressed (faux) alarm that a term such as "person of color" might have worked its way into the Thai vernacular. As this term is viewed as "politically correct" by some and "woke"  by others, I would say that fretting about this possibility crossed the line from casual observation into the realm of political commentary.

 

If it makes you feel any better, (piw sii ผิวสี) would more accurately be translated to "colored skin" or simply "colored" rather than "person of color." As I said earlier, this term has been in usage for decades, if not longer, in Thailand.

 

The usage of "colored" to describe people of African descent is now viewed as unacceptable in the West due to its usage during the slavery and Jim Crow eras in America and apartheid era in South Africa. The use of "colored" to describe dark complected foreigners in Thailand is tolerated, at least for the time being, because without the above mentioned historical baggage, the term is not viewed as racially charged but simply descriptive.

 

I don't think you need to worry about "woke" language encroaching into the Thai language. The usage of politically correct or, if you insist, "woke" language has gained traction in the West in an effort to linguistically force people to respect one another's racial and cultural differences. In my opinion, Thais are light years ahead of most Westerners in this department so the need to erect these type of linguistic guardrails here is minimal.

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Posted
22 hours ago, webfact said:

While fines for such violations typically total several thousand Thai Baht

It's 500 baht where I live.

 

Posted
20 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Is that illegal?  Don't you have 30 days or so to pay the fine?

 

Anyhoo, great video with hordes of helmetless motosci riders riding by unmolested, including the family of four with two young kids who paused at the crossing to gawk. (2:52)

 

 

 

I was stopped at a police roadblock years ago and as the Sergeant was writing the ticket 3 cars wizzed by clearly speeding and I said to him why dont you stop those cars and book them and he replied I can only book one at a time.So same would apply in Thailand.

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Posted
14 hours ago, G_Money said:


Yes I do.  Soi 9 police check point.

 

Thais get ticketed too.

 

I walk by there daily and see it daily.

 

Yes I do 

 

 

 

 

The police aren't stupid ..they know that thet have a much better chance of getting a fine and even some tea money out of a foreigner  than a local.

Posted
22 minutes ago, Kwausie said:

Just take his smart arse straight to nearest airport and deport, maybe come back with a little more respect.

they should take him to the station and lock him in his cell and give him 20 parking tickets and  make him eat them with no water to wash them down...that''l teach him.

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12 minutes ago, wavodavo said:

they should take him to the station and lock him in his cell and give him 20 parking tickets and  make him eat them with no water to wash them down...that''l teach him.

Stop taking the 'roids' bro! 

Makes people aggressive..

Getting a ticket in front of soi 9 is a Pattaya right of passage. 

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Posted
56 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

If it makes you feel any better, (piw sii ผิวสี) would more accurately be translated to "colored skin" or simply "colored" rather than "person of color." As I said earlier, this term has been in usage for decades, if not longer, in Thailand.

 

Firs off she said "person of color" at the very start (คนผิวสี). not talking about the text or anything.

 

We stopped saying "colored person" decades ago (wikipedia say it may be considered a slur)  but now "person of color" is acceptable according to our masters so which is it? Is she using the American racial slur from the 60s "colored person" or the modern American term "person of color" to describe a non-white person? 


just admit it she's copying political correct nonsense from America. Probably watches American news and picked up the term. So what? 

Posted
23 hours ago, webfact said:

the shirtless man on a motorcycle was caught without a helmet or valid driving licence.

To me riding without a valid driving licence should mean immediate deportation, you have come to Thailand and decided to commit a serious crime. 

Posted
2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

It might depend on where it is happening. Random road blocks out of town, I might agree, but I watched them at work on The Beach Rd once in  front of the station. Definitely picking out more farangs.... they were helping by mostly not wearing helmets though.  

It is collection season for the big party. 


“once”

 

I’ve observed them ticketing Thais on numerous occasions.

 

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You know, I have grown weary of being lumped into the big "foreigner" basket. Why not give the country of origin of the people causing the trouble? 

 

As a Canadian, I don't like being lumped into the "foreigner" basket. I'm not a trouble maker and I do feel the effect of being tarred with the foreigner brush from time to time. 

 

Besides, if we knew where each of these idiots were from, we could start to make some statistical analyses. 

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