Why some of us did not get COVID symptoms …even though we were exposed.

[Dan O]

4 minutes ago, Airalee said:

All reasons for making the choice to get vaxxed a choice.

 

My body, my choice applies to more than just abortions.

other than some very limited occupations like military service there was always a choice to get vaxed or not. 

[Airalee]

3 minutes ago, Dan O said:

other than some very limited occupations like military service there was always a choice to get vaxed or not. 

Seems like a lot of people were quite vocal about the choice I made and now, still want to belabor the situation and then blather on about their dead family and friends.  Whatever.

 

You made the choice to get vaxxed.  Wonderful.  Up to you.  Glad it worked out for you.

[Hawaiian]

12 minutes ago, Dan O said:

other than some very limited occupations like military service there was always a choice to get vaxed or not. 

Perhaps you have forgotten those employees that were suspended or terminate for refusing to get vaccinated.  AFAICR, not that limited.

[bkknirvana]

It was a scam. The people with cold like symptoms had a cold or flu.

 

The PCR test was the biggest lie.

[impulse]

5 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Perhaps you have forgotten those employees that were suspended or terminate for refusing to get vaccinated.  AFAICR, not that limited.

 

Not to mention the places where I had to flash my vaccine record to even get in to eat or shop.  

 

And if there had been no massive pushback, we'd all be pulling out our vaccine passports to board a flight or cross a border. 

 

Edit:  Pushback by brave people who were ostracized and had a painful death wished upon them, evident in a previous montage post.

 

[transam]

8 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Seems like a lot of people were quite vocal about the choice I made and now, still want to belabor the situation and then blather on about their dead family and friends.  Whatever.

 

You made the choice to get vaxxed.  Wonderful.  Up to you.  Glad it worked out for you.

Did for me, though I never got Covid, that I know of, after all, the 3 jabs I had, maybe did their job, on an old codger like me too........

[transam]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

Not to mention the places where I had to flash my vaccine record to even get in to eat or shop.  

 

And if there had been no massive pushback, we'd all be pulling out our vaccine passports to board a flight or cross a border. 

Which is no problem, is it..........🤗

[impulse]

10 minutes ago, transam said:

Which is no problem, is it..........

 

My 2nd Pfizer resulted in life changing side effects.  I'd give anything to go back and undo that damage.  They'd have to hold a gun to my head to get me to take a 3rd mRNA. 

 

So, yeah.  It's a huge fricking problem if they want me to prove I'm "up to date" with all my boosters to enjoy rights like hopping on a flight and dining in.

 

[Airalee]

12 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Perhaps you have forgotten those employees that were suspended or terminate for refusing to get vaccinated.  AFAICR, not that limited.

Congress was exempt from the mandates.   Fancy that.

[Airalee]

7 minutes ago, transam said:

Did for me, though I never got Covid, that I know of, after all, the 3 jabs I had, maybe did their job, on an old codger like me too........

Wonderful!

[transam]

1 minute ago, Airalee said:

Wonderful!

Indeed......

[xylophone]

37 minutes ago, bkknirvana said:

It was a scam. The people with cold like symptoms had a cold or flu.

 

The PCR test was the biggest lie.

Try telling that to the families of those who died as a result of Covid.

 

Covid-19, which first emerged in the central Chinese city of Wuhan in December 2020, killed millions of people, shredded economies and overwhelmed health systems.

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/china-says-it-shared-covid-information-without-holding-anything-back/4MJ5SCX7T5FUFH7IKFVLH

[Red Phoenix]

43 minutes ago, transam said:

Did for me, though I never got Covid, that I know of, after all, the 3 jabs I had, maybe did their job, on an old codger like me too........

 

Yes, those 3 jabs surely did 'do their job'.  Here a memory-refresher, as I distinctly remember that you wrote some years ago on the Forum of experiencing a flare-up of shingles after taking the shots. 

And shingles is a common - in the sense of not rare - adverse effect of the covid-jabs. 

You are lucky if that are the only adverse effects you encountered, and hope it stays that way...

[jas007]

52 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Congress was exempt from the mandates.   Fancy that.

Not only Congress.  The people working at the FDA, the CDC, the White House, the Courts, employees of Pfizer and Moderna, etc.  In other words, they had to exempt people who would say no because they knew the score or could easily find out. 

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

And if there had been no massive pushback, we'd all be pulling out our vaccine passports to board a flight or cross a border. 

... Well, that could be coming with the next plandemic.

 

Or climate lockdown.

[ericbj]

23 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Good that you mentioned fermented foods.  We consume a lot of won bok and daikon kim chi which I make with fermented gochujang chili paste and loads of ginger and garlic.  I also add fresh blueberries to Fage Greek Yogurt for dessert or quick snacks.  As the household cook, I make sure processed foods have a limited place on our menu.

I didn't know about fungal infections.  So far I have not been plagued by them. 

 Sounds like you have a pretty healthy life-style.

 

Fermented foods, correctly produced, are extremely rich in health-giving bacteria.  Probiotics marketed by the big drug companies contain a few million bacteria per dose according to the manufacturers' specifications.  However doses of at least several billion are said to be necessary to be effective.  To produce such concentrations is expensive and it is obvious that few people will pay the necessary prices.

 

There are specialised companies that produce high-potency probiotics for a limited market, at high prices.

Long-live fermented foods!

 

Many more people than realise it have fungal infections these days; commonly of candida albicans, starting in the intestines.

 

I first learnt about it when working as an unpaid volunteer in a cancer centre.  According to the doctor and nutritionist who founded and headed the centre, "candida overgrowth is found in 100% of cancer patients".

 

Candida occurs naturally in the digestive tract as a yeast which participates in the digestion of proteins.  But if excess space is created around it by killing off the bacteria that help to keep it in check, it can spread.  And in so doing transform itself into a filarial fungus.
…
[dragged away to a New Year's Eve party! 🙂 Home the following day]
…
The candida threads attach themselves to the intestinal walls, causing perforations in the one-cell thick lining which restricts passage into the blood-stream of all but the smallest molecules.  The result is hyperpermeability of the intestines, commonly referred to as "leaky gut".

 

Leaky gut means that macro-molecules of half-digested or undigested food can pass into the blood.  They are recognised as foreign bodies and immediately attacked by the immune system.

 

However, as the leaky gut develops, the situation deteriorates, with the immune system being slowly overwhelmed.
Intolerances to foods that were previously well tolerated can  develop.

 

Eventually the candida itself may escape to infect other organs throughout the body.

 

Some oncologists have even claimed cancer to be a fungal disease.  But this is probably an oversimplification.  Cancer cells are constantly formed within all of us.  Tumours develop when the immune system is so weakened as to be unable to deal with the constant threats to the body's integrity.

p.s.
https://greenmedinfo.com/disease/respiratory-infections

[Dan O]

1 hour ago, Airalee said:

Seems like a lot of people were quite vocal about the choice I made and now, still want to belabor the situation and then blather on about their dead family and friends.  Whatever.

 

You made the choice to get vaxxed.  Wonderful.  Up to you.  Glad it worked out for you.

I never said I got vaxed nor did I tell anyone to get vaxed so check yourself as your ability to read is challenging. As for all the other ridiculous things you write you must be a sad troubled old man. 

 

[Marco100]

Covid worst strain was Delta and it was serious . I got two AZ n 1 Pfizer last Dec 2021 . After that I think I had Covid multiple times but I stopped tasting my self as symptoms weren't there or were mild  . Covid today togheter with Flues is new normal . Latest strain is XEC n can be nasty with fever ,shivering et et as it would be with a flue .

Just keep an eye open as it still could turn in something worst than a flue ....

[Dan O]

1 hour ago, Hawaiian said:

Perhaps you have forgotten those employees that were suspended or terminate for refusing to get vaccinated.  AFAICR, not that limited.

It was still their choice , and they could have said no if they felt strongly against it. Military to my knowledge are the only ones with no choice.  Unfortunately choices come with consequences sometimes. 

[transam]

52 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Yes, those 3 jabs surely did 'do their job'.  Here a memory-refresher, as I distinctly remember that you wrote some years ago on the Forum of experiencing a flare-up of shingles after taking the shots. 

And shingles is a common - in the sense of not rare - adverse effect of the covid-jabs. 

You are lucky if that are the only adverse effects you encountered, and hope it stays that way...

I get flare up from Shingles ever now and again, first time 30 years back...

You should read up on what causes it or might cause it....NEXT.........

 

The main thing is, I am still alive, and glad I didn't listen to fruitcakes like you...

[bradiston]

4 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Same can be said about your post...

You mean my post prices nothing? Quite agree. This is a totally pointless thread. You started out by asking an interesting question and then proceeded to use it as a platform for promoting your own agenda. That's a troll.

[Purdey]

10 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Poor analogy. Getting a cold/flu like virus and polio are light years apart.

Both can kill.

[Flyguy330]

If I can butt in on this heated debate....I have a question.

 

In the early days of Covid the anti-vaxxers claimed it was all a hoax and there was no virus. The most extreme types were even pushing the off-the-wall belief that viruses don't even exist, and that they are part of the hoax too. I'm sure some still believe that, maybe right here in this thread. Plenty are in denial about HIV for example.

 

Anyhow, aside from all the conspiracy theories and denials, one thing has always puzzled me. This disease (the Covid virus) was affirmed to exist by nations like China, Russia, North Korea - all 'rivals' or 'adversaries' (or even open enemies) of the West. They all developed Covid vaccines and mandated them for their populace.

They engaged in lockdowns which heavily damaged their economies, just like the West - when they had a God given opportunity to smash Western military and economic dominance.

 

It amazes me that those nations would 'buy into' a hoax invented in the West, one which had the possibility of actually weakening their resistance against Western domination and power. If they believed it was truly all a hoax meant to weaken them wouldn't they have been screaming it from the rooftops, rather than slavishly abiding by it?

 

Sure, some will say the dictators like to exercise total control over their populace, and this disease gave them even more power over their people.

But why use a method which ultimately weakens them?

 

Now, I expect to hear the claim that 'the elites of the planet' are all one, and all act in concert, and all the global rivalries are mere theatre, to keep the masses docile. Perhaps so. So you begin to see where these conspiracy theories ultimately take us. It's not about 'a virus' or a vaccine - we're actually talking about 'The Illuminati' and their control over humanity.

 

Do you see where this rabbit hole leads? If you buy into the least of it, you buy into ALL of the rest too.

Total insanity.

[rattlesnake]

4 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Several of those 'respected' posters that expressed their enthusiasm to mandate jabbing, jailing, deporting or even killing those that did not want to take the experimental gen-therapy are still active on the Forum. 

Some of them - a small minority - might be somewhat ashamed now about the often extreme views they posted then. 

And then there are those that have vanished from the Forum. 

I sometimes wonder about @Jeffr2, he was one of the most outspoken vax-enthusiastics.  He even flew back to the US to get the Moderna-jab, as that was the 'strongest protector' against covid-19 at a time when that jab was not yet available in Thailand.  And we never heard of him again...

 

Yep, vanished. Phoenix Rising too.

[bradiston]

4 minutes ago, Flyguy330 said:

If I can butt in on this heated debate....I have a question.

 

In the early days of Covid the anti-vaxxers claimed it was all a hoax and there was no virus. The most extreme types were even pushing the off-the-wall belief that viruses don't even exist, and that they are part of the hoax too. I'm sure some still believe that, maybe right here in this thread. Plenty are in denial about HIV for example.

 

Anyhow, aside from all the conspiracy theories and denials, one thing has always puzzled me. This disease (the Covid virus) was affirmed to exist by nations like China, Russia, North Korea - all 'rivals' or 'adversaries' (or even open enemies) of the West. They all developed Covid vaccines and mandated them for their populace.

They engaged in lockdowns which heavily damaged their economies, just like the West - when they had a God given opportunity to smash Western military and economic dominance.

 

It amazes me that those nations would 'buy into' a hoax invented in the West, one which had the possibility of actually weakening their resistance against Western domination and power. If they believed it was truly all a hoax meant to weaken them wouldn't they have been screaming it from the rooftops, rather than slavishly abiding by it?

 

Sure, some will say the dictators like to exercise total control over their populace, and this disease gave them even more power over their people.

But why use a method which ultimately weakens them?

 

Now, I expect to hear the claim that 'the elites of the planet' are all one, and all act in concert, and all the global rivalries are mere theatre, to keep the masses docile. Perhaps so. So you begin to see where these conspiracy theories ultimately take us. It's not about 'a virus' or a vaccine - we're actually talking about 'The Illuminati' and their control over humanity.

 

Do you see where this rabbit hole leads? If you buy into the least of it, you buy into ALL of the rest too.

Total insanity.

Great post. In a nutshell. There are still people who claim it was a hoax. At least it's entertaining, the lengths people will go to, with their odd ball agendas. Xi and Putin were on board all along? Oh, come on!

[impulse]

2 hours ago, xylophone said:

Covid-19, which first emerged in the central Chinese city of Wuhan in December 2020, killed millions of people, shredded economies and overwhelmed health systems.

 

Covid didn't shred economies and overwhelm health systems.  The reaction to Covid did that. 

 

And you don't think that it's at all suspicious that there was so little flu that year that they didn't even bother to report the numbers?  In a typical year in the USA, there are 30 million flu cases.  In 2020/21, there weren't enough to even count them?

 

https://www.cdc.gov/flu-burden/php/about/index.html

[atpeace]

3 hours ago, Dan O said:

not quite sure what your point is about posting pictures as that's not gonna happen. This is a far too personal an issue for you or other to try to turn into some social media commentary. Under the circumstances at the time taking pictures of family members in that condition is the last thing on a sane person's mind. If this is a backhanded attempt to throw shade on the situation then go right ahead as thats disgusting . If you just want to see terminally sick people in a hospital there are plenty on the internets

Yep I posted pictures of those terminally ill in hospitals years ago on this very forum to make a point.   95% were  in very poor physical health.  Possibly the hospitals had daily all you can eat buffets.  

[ericbj]

On 12/29/2024 at 5:44 PM, Ohyesuare said:

COVID is over, find something else to obsess about.

 

"Why in the world would we still be talking about Covid?"

 

 

"You must read between the lines."

[atpeace]

31 minutes ago, Flyguy330 said:

If I can butt in on this heated debate....I have a question.

 

In the early days of Covid the anti-vaxxers claimed it was all a hoax and there was no virus. The most extreme types were even pushing the off-the-wall belief that viruses don't even exist, and that they are part of the hoax too. I'm sure some still believe that, maybe right here in this thread. Plenty are in denial about HIV for example.

 

Anyhow, aside from all the conspiracy theories and denials, one thing has always puzzled me. This disease (the Covid virus) was affirmed to exist by nations like China, Russia, North Korea - all 'rivals' or 'adversaries' (or even open enemies) of the West. They all developed Covid vaccines and mandated them for their populace.

They engaged in lockdowns which heavily damaged their economies, just like the West - when they had a God given opportunity to smash Western military and economic dominance.

 

It amazes me that those nations would 'buy into' a hoax invented in the West, one which had the possibility of actually weakening their resistance against Western domination and power. If they believed it was truly all a hoax meant to weaken them wouldn't they have been screaming it from the rooftops, rather than slavishly abiding by it?

 

Sure, some will say the dictators like to exercise total control over their populace, and this disease gave them even more power over their people.

But why use a method which ultimately weakens them?

 

Now, I expect to hear the claim that 'the elites of the planet' are all one, and all act in concert, and all the global rivalries are mere theatre, to keep the masses docile. Perhaps so. So you begin to see where these conspiracy theories ultimately take us. It's not about 'a virus' or a vaccine - we're actually talking about 'The Illuminati' and their control over humanity.

 

Do you see where this rabbit hole leads? If you buy into the least of it, you buy into ALL of the rest too.

Total insanity.

Know many people that didn't want to get vaccinated and not one of them believed what you claim above they believed.  Most just wanted to be able to make the choice. 

 

Do you see what you are doing?  You're applying a definition to a group of people then using your definition to criticize that group.  

[Flyguy330]

I see what YOU are doing. You're misdirecting readers to a different debate now, about 'choice'. Stick to the point.

What has your post got to do with the nuts who say the virus never existed - and nor indeed does any other virus exist? And the disease was all a hoax by Big Pharma.

Trump was all on board with it - the arch hater of China (which was on board with it too). Funny that.