UK Ex-MP Claims Grooming Gang Ethnicity Was Suppressed to Protect Votes

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Former Rochdale MP Simon Danczuk has accused Tony Lloyd, a prominent Labour figure, of discouraging him from raising concerns about the ethnic background of grooming gang perpetrators to avoid harming the party’s electoral prospects. Danczuk, who represented Rochdale from 2010 to 2017, alleges that Lloyd, then the Labour Party's parliamentary chairman, prioritized political expediency over addressing the root causes of abuse.  

 

Danczuk’s claims center around the infamous 2012 convictions of nine men for sex trafficking and related offences in Rochdale. Among the perpetrators, eight were of British Pakistani origin, and one was an Afghan asylum seeker. Subsequent investigations led to convictions of an additional 33 men, with Greater Manchester Police issuing an apology for failing to act on earlier reports of abuse.  

 

As a vocal campaigner on the issue, Danczuk brought whistleblowers to testify before the Commons home affairs select committee. However, he says his efforts were met with resistance within his own party. Speaking to *The Telegraph*, Danczuk revealed, “At no time did Yvette Cooper, who was then the shadow home secretary, seek my advice on the matter.” He further stated that both Lloyd and Jim Dobbin, another Labour MP, warned him not to connect the grooming scandal with the perpetrators' ethnicity.  

 

Danczuk detailed his grievances in a 2017 letter to Professor Alexis Jay, who chaired a major inquiry into child sexual abuse. In the letter, he wrote: “Tony Lloyd made efforts within Parliament to dissociate the grooming scandal from the Asian Muslim community – that is a matter of public record. Privately, he told me such links should not be emphasized.”  

 

The ex-MP claims that Lloyd threatened him over his criticism of Greater Manchester Police’s handling of the case, particularly after Danczuk publicly questioned the Chief Constable's performance in a *Mail on Sunday* article. “Tony phoned and threatened me,” Danczuk alleged. “He said that if I ever repeated such comments, he would ‘bounce me from Rochdale to Westminster.’ My then-wife was present when I took the call.”  

 

Danczuk believes Lloyd's reluctance to highlight the ethnic background of the perpetrators was politically motivated. “I am of the view that Tony did not want the abuse of children linked with the Asian Muslim community because it could have an adverse electoral impact for him in the election for police commissioner and for Labour more generally,” he said.  

 

Tony Lloyd went on to serve as Greater Manchester’s police and crime commissioner in 2012 and returned to Parliament as Rochdale MP in 2017. Lloyd passed away in January last year, and Jim Dobbin died in 2014.  

 

Danczuk has since echoed calls for a dedicated national inquiry into grooming gangs, aligning with recent statements from Conservative minister Kemi Badenoch. “The 2017 child abuse inquiry focused on historical and Westminster-related abuse,” he told *The Telegraph*. “There should be a national inquiry into grooming gangs, with the power to prosecute those who turned a blind eye or actively discouraged investigations. My concern is that if a Labour government sets the remit for such an inquiry, it could be constructed to yield few meaningful results.”  

 

His remarks come as Labour faces fresh criticism for refusing to hold a public inquiry into grooming gangs in Oldham. Tech billionaire Elon Musk weighed in on the issue, calling Labour’s stance “disgraceful.”  

 

 

The allegations underscore ongoing tensions over how political considerations intersect with justice and accountability in cases of systemic abuse.

 

Based on a report by Daily Telegraph 2024-01-04

 

 

[The Cyclist]

Only lunatics do not believe this was not covered up on a grand scale by Labour

 

[mikeymike100]

Elon Musk, does have a good point.....again?

[jippytum]

lots of  crime by ethnic minorities particularly committed by muslims in the UK has long been supressed. 

Remember the three louts from Pakistan origin who beat up a young policwoman and broke her nose in an airport brawl have never been charged. 

Nigel Fararge has threatened to make a private prosecution on behalf of Reform. 

[mdr224]

9 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

Elon Musk, does have a good point.....again?

Hilarious how folks criticize him as being the real president of the US like its a bad thing…i wish we could be that lucky

[JonnyF]

Everyone knows this is what happened.

 

The truth always comes out in the end. 

 

Well done Elon for bringing international attention to this shameful episode. 

[norfolkandchance]

24 minutes ago, jippytum said:

lots of  crime by ethnic minorities particularly committed by muslims in the UK has long been supressed. 

Remember the three louts from Pakistan origin who beat up a young policwoman and broke her nose in an airport brawl have never been charged. 

Nigel Fararge has threatened to make a private prosecution on behalf of Reform. 

Here you go.

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, norfolkandchance said:

Here you go.

It took massive political and social pressure including Reform threatening a civil case to make this happen. 

 

Their hand was forced in the end. Months after the incident. Unlike the social media posters who were arrested charged and sentenced to multiple year jail sentences within a week (Chomper will shortly link to the court records).

 

They tried to bury it and failed. 

 

They tried to silence the British public and failed.

 

Shame on them. 

 

 

[mikeymike100]

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

It took massive political and social pressure including Reform threatening a civil case to make this happen. 

 

Their hand was forced in the end. Months after the incident. Unlike the social media posters who were arrested charged and sentenced to multiple year jail sentences within a week (Chomper will shortly link to the court records).

 

They tried to bury it and failed. 

 

They tried to silence the British public and failed.

 

Shame on them. 

 

 

Well said.

The mainly Pakistani muslim grooming/rape gangs saga has been going on for a very long time and attempts by the police and MP's to hush it up did succeed to some point, They wanted it hushed up so as not to appear racist, it appears and to support diversity.

But now its hit Social media in a big way and having Elon Musk  on the case will hopefully ensure that the MSM pick it up and something will finally be done!

[Jaggg88]

4 hours ago, norfolkandchance said:

Here you go.

It took an extraordinary amount of time for these charges to be made. Why?

[proton]

Douglas spot on as usual

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

This the guy who was expelled from the Labour Party after it was revealed he has been sending explicit messages to a 17 year old girl.

 

 

[mokwit]

8 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

Only lunatics do not believe this was not covered up on a grand scale by Labour

 

You mean 'criminals not admitting', not 'lunatics do not believe', surely?

[mokwit]

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

This the guy who was expelled from the Labour Party after it was revealed he has been sending explicit messages to a 17 year old girl.

 

 

So does that mean there was no cover up by Labour?

[mokwit]

BTW, someone is starting a gofundme to obtain the full court records. Court records are archived by private companies who charge something like GBP 7.50/page. We need to expose the actions of these people, and I don't just mean the perpetrators. From what excerpts of transcripts I have seen, this was not in any way something that was consensual. The men doing this were ANIMALS.

 

For some reason the Home Office has not chosen to make sentencing video available as they did with the people they labelled the  "far Right".

[ukrules]

Well known for a very long time, they need the votes so threat some people differently. Simple as that.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

57 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

This the guy who was expelled from the Labour Party after it was revealed he has been sending explicit messages to a 17 year old girl.

 

 

 

How about commenting on what the post is actually about, rather than your usual woke whataboutery 

 

 

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

Courting the Muslim vote has been Labour policy for many years; back in 2017, one of the finest MP’s that Labour have ever had, Sarah Champion, former MP for Rotherham and former shadow secretary of state for women and equalities, was asked to resign by Jeremy Corbyn after writing an article in a newspaper warning that more must be done to stop gangs of Pakistani men targeting young girls for sex.

 

At the time a source on behalf of Corbyn confirmed that he had asked her to resign, adding it was not appropriate for Ms Champion to have suggested that Pakistani men are largely responsible for the grooming and rape of young white girls …… not appropriate for a Labour MP to speak the absolute truth; quelle surprise ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

 

[Will B Good]

 

So this horrific problem was brought to the attention of the public by Tommy Robinson in 2009, to the attention of parliament in 2010.......and now, after 14 years in power, the Tories, who did nothing, are suddenly stressed there was no proper investigation?

 

Odd?

[mikeymike100]

7 hours ago, jippytum said:

lots of  crime by ethnic minorities particularly committed by muslims in the UK has long been supressed. 

Remember the three louts from Pakistan origin who beat up a young policwoman and broke her nose in an airport brawl have never been charged. 

Nigel Fararge has threatened to make a private prosecution on behalf of Reform. 

They have been ch

 

2 hours ago, Jaggg88 said:

It took an extraordinary amount of time for these charges to be made. Why?

Yes around 5 months. I believe it was because 'reform' were going to issue a private prosecution against the 2 muslim thugs!

It put pressure on the CPS?

[Will B Good]

4 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

They have been ch

 

Yes around 5 months. I believe it was because 'reform' were going to issue a private prosecution against the 2 muslim thugs!

It put pressure on the CPS?

 

"You believe".....so it could have been no more than a political ploy by Farage, in the almost certain knowledge they would be prosecuted, to give the impression he was active in forcing the issue.

 

I also believe the CPS makes its own decisions based on the law, not on what Farage might be mouthing off about at any particular time.

[Bkk Brian]

No one is blameless on this, only the poor victims

 

A former detective who uncovered police failings in investigating grooming gangs has said Sir Keir Starmer is “perhaps as guilty as anyone” over the failure to bring about change.

Whistleblower Maggie Oliver, who resigned from Greater Manchester Police (GMP) in 2012, on Friday criticised previous inquiries into the scandal and called for an independent investigation and “criminal accountability” for public officials and police who “turned a blind eye”.

It came after Elon Musk claimed the prime minister failed to bring “rape gangs” to justice when he was director of public prosecutions (DPP) between 2008 and 2013.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/maggie-oliver-keir-starmer-whistleblower-grooming-gangs-b2673591.html

[Will B Good]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

No one is blameless on this, only the poor victims

 

A former detective who uncovered police failings in investigating grooming gangs has said Sir Keir Starmer is “perhaps as guilty as anyone” over the failure to bring about change.

Whistleblower Maggie Oliver, who resigned from Greater Manchester Police (GMP) in 2012, on Friday criticised previous inquiries into the scandal and called for an independent investigation and “criminal accountability” for public officials and police who “turned a blind eye”.

It came after Elon Musk claimed the prime minister failed to bring “rape gangs” to justice when he was director of public prosecutions (DPP) between 2008 and 2013.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/maggie-oliver-keir-starmer-whistleblower-grooming-gangs-b2673591.html

Interesting take from the article.....

 

Whistleblower Sara Rowbotham, co-ordinator of the Crisis Intervention Team set up to support young people in Rochdale, expressed frustration at Mr Musk’s posts about the scandal on X, which he owns.

 

She told The Guardian: “What is (Musk’s) motivation for interfering? It seems very political.

“The person he is trying to go after is Keir Starmer – it is a political swipe that is nothing to do with the women and girls who have been abused time after time.”

[Patong2021]

Opportunistic self serving person. If he was that concerned, he should have done something when he was in the position to say something. Now he wants to  rehabilitate his image. Too late diddy.

[mokwit]

15 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

I also believe the CPS makes its own decisions based on the law, not on what Farage might be mouthing off about at any particular time.

Ostensibly they do, but they don't normally drag their heels for five months. There is nothing in this case that justifies that time period. Alternatively, it is possible that the case was not forwarded to the CPS in a timely manner and they could have acted in a timely manner once they received it. They/whoever was directing them clearly wanted to delay this so it blew over.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

Interesting take from the article.....

 

Whistleblower Sara Rowbotham, co-ordinator of the Crisis Intervention Team set up to support young people in Rochdale, expressed frustration at Mr Musk’s posts about the scandal on X, which he owns.

 

She told The Guardian: “What is (Musk’s) motivation for interfering? It seems very political.

“The person he is trying to go after is Keir Starmer – it is a political swipe that is nothing to do with the women and girls who have been abused time after time.”

Nothing to do with my post and its claims............

 

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

No one is blameless on this, only the poor victims

 

A former detective who uncovered police failings in investigating grooming gangs has said Sir Keir Starmer is “perhaps as guilty as anyone” over the failure to bring about change.

Whistleblower Maggie Oliver, who resigned from Greater Manchester Police (GMP) in 2012, on Friday criticised previous inquiries into the scandal and called for an independent investigation and “criminal accountability” for public officials and police who “turned a blind eye”.

It came after Elon Musk claimed the prime minister failed to bring “rape gangs” to justice when he was director of public prosecutions (DPP) between 2008 and 2013.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/maggie-oliver-keir-starmer-whistleblower-grooming-gangs-b2673591.html

 

[Patong2021]

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

No one is blameless on this, only the poor victims

 

A former detective who uncovered police failings in investigating grooming gangs has said Sir Keir Starmer is “perhaps as guilty as anyone” over the failure to bring about change.

Whistleblower Maggie Oliver, who resigned from Greater Manchester Police (GMP) in 2012, on Friday criticised previous inquiries into the scandal and called for an independent investigation and “criminal accountability” for public officials and police who “turned a blind eye”.

It came after Elon Musk claimed the prime minister failed to bring “rape gangs” to justice when he was director of public prosecutions (DPP) between 2008 and 2013.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/maggie-oliver-keir-starmer-whistleblower-grooming-gangs-b2673591.html

 

No doubt the police  bungled. The crown prosecutor can only act when there is proper evidence and the police service did not  provide a compelling case.

[Bkk Brian]

Like I said, nobody is blameless

 

Police force ignored Rotherham child sex abuse scandal for fear of sparking ‘racial tensions’, report finds

A police force turned a blind eye to child grooming for fear of sparking “racial tensions”, the police watchdog heard.
The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) found a chief inspector told a missing child’s father that Rotherham “would erupt” if it knew that multiple Asian gangs were sexually abusing children.
A complaint by the child’s father, upheld after a five-year investigation, heard the officer described the abuse as “P*** shagging” and added: “with it being Asians, we can’t afford for this to be coming out.”

https://inews.co.uk/news/rotherham-child-sex-abuse-racial-tensions-iopc-387359

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Ostensibly they do, but they don't drag their heels for five months. there is nothing in this case that justifies that time period. They/whoever was directing them clearly wanted to delay this so it blew over.

 

 

If that were genuinely the case "they" were staggeringly naive.

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Nothing to do with my post and its claims............

 

 

 

Never said it was......I just pointed out it was an interesting take from the lady at the forefront of all this.