Another Major Trump Flip-Flop

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

Great links🙄, 2 opinion pieces, 1  sentence about a focus group repeated, is that all you have as proof of 'buyers remorse' ?

 

Lets get back to your story, so you'd take the side of the 'family man' who's daughter married an illegal alien, who broke the law, rather then than take the side of someone who is trying to uphold the law?

Basically your hatred of Trump means you approve of people breaking the law

Since when is breaking the law an issue for MAGA? Your leader is a convicted felon, he broke the law. Several of his cabinet members did as well. 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, rudi49jr said:

Since when is breaking the law an issue for MAGA? Your leader is a convicted felon, he broke the law. Several of his cabinet members did as well. 

Deflection from the question, so you find it acceptable for people break the law becuae you dislike Trump, 

[rudi49jr]

13 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Deflection from the question, so you find it acceptable for people break the law becuae you dislike Trump, 

Now who’s deflecting? You apparently find it acceptable for people (i.e. Trump and his minions) to break the law because you like Trump. 
Compared to being an ‘illegal alien’, Trump and his minions have done, are doing and will be doing far worse.

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1 minute ago, rudi49jr said:

Now who’s deflecting? You apparently find it acceptable for people (i.e. Trump and his minions) to break the law because you like Trump. 
Compared to being an ‘illegal alien’, Trump and his minions have done, are doing and will be doing far worse.

Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor. So is jaywalking. I wonder if Trump supporters clutch their pearls every time they see a pedestrian crossing a street when the traffic lights prohibit it.

[rudi49jr]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor. So is jaywalking. I wonder if Trump supporters clutch their pearls every time they see a pedestrian crossing a street when the traffic lights prohibit it.

I can guess where this comes from:

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oregon-coast-residents-receive-racist-205114638.html

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Now who’s deflecting? You apparently find it acceptable for people (i.e. Trump and his minions) to break the law because you like Trump. 
Compared to being an ‘illegal alien’, Trump and his minions have done, are doing and will be doing far worse.

The civil cases against Trump are politial BS in order to get him off the ballot, anyone that isnt a screaming liberal can see that, whereas someone entering the country is carryng out an illegal act.... so just answer the question.

Do you think it is acceptable to enter a country illegally, and work illegally?

 

[Walker88]

On 1/4/2025 at 3:01 AM, frank83628 said:

He got elected bacause people were fed up with the way things are. Trump got practically the same amount of votes in the cheated election of 2020, so tiktoc didn't matter, if anything X helped by showing what the left tried to censor and ms media ignored.

Yes. People are simply fed up with robust economic growth, a soaring stock market and low unemployment.

 

Let's bring back the carnage of 45's first term! We need another Recession and 6.8% unemployment. We need lots more Las Vegas (2017), Parkland HS, Sutherland Church, the Pittsburgh Synagogue, El Paso Walmart.

 

45 was paradise. 47 will be paradise turbocharged. We'll have a Recession, a 20% stock market decline, and if we're lucky and he does what we all know he's capable of doing, double digit unemployment.

[GroveHillWanderer]

11 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

The civil cases against Trump are politial BS in order to get him off the ballot, anyone that isnt a screaming liberal can see that

What ballot? Trump is not currently on any ballot.

 

Even if you meant "were" not "are" how would a civil case be an effort to get him off the ballot? In civil cases, the worst that can happen is him being ordered to pay damages. 

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16 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

The civil cases against Trump are politial BS in order to get him off the ballot, anyone that isnt a screaming liberal can see that, whereas someone entering the country is carryng out an illegal act.... so just answer the question.

Do you think it is acceptable to enter a country illegally, and work illegally?

 

I think it's acceptable. But if you really want to solve the problem, there's an easy way to do it. Just make it a felony to hire undocumented immigrants. Do you support that?

[Jingthing]

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I think it's acceptable. But if you really want to solve the problem, there's an easy way to do it. Just make it a felony to hire undocumented immigrants. Do you support that?

I support comprehensive immigration reform not punishing employers.

Many more LEGAL immigrants both skilled and unskilled are needed and also of course a robust LEGAL guest worker program especially for agriculture.

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

What ballot? Trump is not currently on any ballot.

 

Even if you meant "were" not "are" how would a civil case be an effort to get him off the ballot? In civil cases, the worst that can happen is him being ordered to pay damages. 

The Democrats were doing all they could to hinder his campaign and stop him running,  they pulled out a the stops but still lost.

 

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

I think it's acceptable. But if you really want to solve the problem, there's an easy way to do it. Just make it a felony to hire undocumented immigrants. Do you support that?

The law is the law right? Everyone kowsnit goes on, many I know work illegally here in Thailand, but they get caught, off the go with a 5 year ban.

You all move the goal posts to suit you agenda, which is basically the opposite to anything Trump says or does. 

You would literally argue black is blue if it related to Trump.... YOUR INCOMING PRESIDENT 

[bendejo]

He has figured out how to use the presidency as a money laundering device.

BTW, what happened to the corruption investigation of his first inauguration, which was attended by a lot of high-rolling Russians?  When they got caught out they tried to blame one of Melania's friends, and when they came for her and she said she was being framed, and then the matter got lost in the MAGA babblesphere.

So in this inauguration he's selling his tickets to rich Americans. 

 

[rattlesnake]

13 hours ago, G_Money said:

24/7!  What a way to live.

 

It's a fascinating ailment. Then you mention Ashley Biden's daughter's authenticated diary mentioning their "inappropriate showers" and her "sexualised childhood" and it's dead silence. Sad, really.

[still kicking]

16 minutes ago, bendejo said:

He has figured out how to use the presidency as a money laundering device.

BTW, what happened to the corruption investigation of his first inauguration, which was attended by a lot of high-rolling Russians?  When they got caught out they tried to blame one of Melania's friends, and when they came for her and she said she was being framed, and then the matter got lost in the MAGA babblesphere.

So in this inauguration he's selling his tickets to rich Americans. 

 

Let Frank answer that 

[rattlesnake]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

I think it's acceptable. But if you really want to solve the problem, there's an easy way to do it. Just make it a felony to hire undocumented immigrants. Do you support that?

 

Why do you think it's acceptable?

[Screaming]

On 1/3/2025 at 8:31 PM, frank83628 said:

Sounds like someone is living rent in your head, how many threads have you started in the last 48 hours.

 

You have got to love Trump, he really knows how to mess with the left wing wackos.

[mogandave]

8 hours ago, placeholder said:

Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor. So is jaywalking. I wonder if Trump supporters clutch their pearls every time they see a pedestrian crossing a street when the traffic lights prohibit it.

False. Illegal entry is a felony. 

[mogandave]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

I think it's acceptable. But if you really want to solve the problem, there's an easy way to do it. Just make it a felony to hire undocumented immigrants. Do you support that?

So all the illegal aliens will be on welfare, great.

 

Put the people hiring illegals as gardeners and housekeepers in jail and deport the illegals. 

[GroveHillWanderer]

15 hours ago, frank83628 said:

The Democrats were doing all they could to hinder his campaign and stop him running,  they pulled out a the stops but still lost.

You haven't answered the question. How would civil cases keep him off the ballot? (Hint - they wouldn't).

[spidermike007]

On 1/4/2025 at 8:53 PM, proton said:

 

Where is the money in deporting millions of illegals? He left office last time with far less money than he started his term with, most of the others lined their pockets, Obama was the worst.

Perhaps you forget but he left  office with far less money last time, because his name became so incredibly toxic nobody wanted to associate with him or his companies.

 

That is the truth, embrace it or deny it, the reality is there. 

[mogandave]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Perhaps you forget but he left  office with far less money last time, because his name became so incredibly toxic nobody wanted to associate with him or his companies.

 

That is the truth, embrace it or deny it, the reality is there. 

So he’s not in it for the money…

 

Truth Social go bust yet? That’s worth a chunk.

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57 minutes ago, mogandave said:

So he’s not in it for the money…

 

Truth Social go bust yet? That’s worth a chunk.

It's worth a chunk as long as he doesn't try to sell it. And that's because  It's a meme stock. Compared to its valuation, it takes in virtually no income and is hemorrhaging funds. 

[placeholder]

59 minutes ago, mogandave said:

So he’s not in it for the money…

 

Truth Social go bust yet? That’s worth a chunk.

As for not being in it for the money.  Or Trump believed that being President, he would be so widely admired that it would actually inflate the value of his properties.

[placeholder]

15 hours ago, mogandave said:

So all the illegal aliens will be on welfare, great.

 

Put the people hiring illegals as gardeners and housekeepers in jail and deport the illegals. 

On the one hand you claim that illegal aliens will be on welfare.

On the other you want to put people hiring illegal aliens in jail.

So they are hiring people on welfare?

 

[frank83628]

16 hours ago, bendejo said:

He has figured out how to use the presidency as a money laundering device.

BTW, what happened to the corruption investigation of his first inauguration, which was attended by a lot of high-rolling Russians?  When they got caught out they tried to blame one of Melania's friends, and when they came for her and she said she was being framed, and then the matter got lost in the MAGA babblesphere.

So in this inauguration he's selling his tickets to rich Americans. 

 

Probably total BS as everything always was.

[metisdead]

A post with a trolling meme about a fictitious medical condition has been removed.

[mogandave]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

On the one hand you claim that illegal aliens will be on welfare.

On the other you want to put people hiring illegal aliens in jail.

So they are hiring people on welfare?

 

 

Virtually every illegal alien is on public assistance of some kind. 

 

I was responding to someone that claimed if the employers were prosecuted, there would be no illegal alien problem, which is ridiculous. 

 

But I am for enforcing the law. Prosecuting the employers and deporting the illegal aliens is fine with me. 

 

What say you oh wise one?

[mogandave]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

As for not being in it for the money.  Or Trump believed that being President, he would be so widely admired that it would actually inflate the value of his properties.

Oh, I thought he was Putin’s puppet, no?

[placeholder]

Just now, mogandave said:

 

Virtually every illegal alien is on public assistance of some kind. 

 

I was responding to someone that claimed if the employers were prosecuted, there would be no illegal alien problem, which is ridiculous. 

 

But I am for enforcing the law. Prosecuting the employers and deporting the illegal aliens is fine with me. 

 

What say you oh wise one?

I say you're making things up. Provide some evidence to back up your statement that virtually every illegal alien is on public assistance. I won't hold my breath waiting.