Convicted Rochdale Grooming Gang Leader Still in the Town & not Deported

[Bkk Brian]

24 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

 

Wouldn't be surprised if it was attached to this one in Birmingham

 

 

An Islam Imam in Birmingham UK—instructs how to stone a woman to death.

 

Birmingham mosque funding on hold after hate speech allegations

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-66705019

[NanLaew]

7 hours ago, proton said:

They follow a man who had a 6 year old 'wife' when he was 50 who he raped when she was 9 and who made up a book which condones raping your enemies and marriage to pre pubescent girls. He thinks he has done nothing wrong just as he thinks the prophet did nothing wrong. What did the muslim community have to say about this sick behaviour?

 

You certainly know your Bible. How about the Koran?

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said:

 

Utter nonsense and you know it. Starmer’s association with the grooming cases as CPP occurred over a decade ago, and the cases were investigated and prosecuted under his watch. Despite this, he is still being targeted by far-right groups and politicians today for political reasons. By bringing up the grooming scandal today, Elon Musk with his tools and other social media bedroom warriors are trying to cast doubt on his handling of the grooming cases and tarnish his reputation and ultimately undermine support for the Labour Party who were otherwise not in power and in opposition during the whole period.

 

Labour seem to have no need of assistance to undermine their reputation and support. Labour were in power and allowed the start of abnormally high immigration. Yes, the Conservatives allowed even more.

 

The whole period goes back possibly for four decades. You sound just like Starmer. Far right my ar$e.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Prosecution of the criminals you choose to defend hasn’t been swift in every case, this criminal has only just been sentenced:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/06/key-architect-of-riots-after-southport-attack-jailed-for-seven-and-a-half-years

 

But still faster than for many of those that you choose to defend. 

[biggles45]

6 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

So I'm sure you will support the new government trying to sort the mess out.

Isn't the current PM the guy in charge of prosecutions at the time all this occurred? Highly unlikely he wants an inquiry or takes any action in case he is found negligent. 

[James105]

1 hour ago, Purdey said:

So, the national Tory government was unable to do anything but the national Labour government can?

Got it.

 

What exactly do you think you have got here?  Why are you against an inquiry about little girls being raped?  Is there something you need to get off your chest?  

[proton]

59 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

You certainly know your Bible. How about the Koran?

 

Where does it say in the Bible Jesus married a 6 year old, where does it condone rape and marrying toddlers. Don't bother mentioning that Rebecca was 3 because thats a lie that muslims like to spout, but there is nothing in the Bible about her age.

[Neeranam]

13 hours ago, Social Media said:

Qari Abdul Rauf, 55, was part of a gang of nine Asian men

Is he British? 

[The Cyclist]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Is he British? 

 

Probably. British Citizenship was getting thrown about like raindrops in a dowpour for quite a long time.

[Neeranam]

9 hours ago, proton said:

They follow a man who had a 6 year old 'wife' when he was 50 who he raped when she was 9 and who made up a book which condones raping your enemies and marriage to pre pubescent girls. He thinks he has done nothing wrong just as he thinks the prophet did nothing wrong. What did the muslim community have to say about this sick behaviour?

You should be ashamed.. 

The highly offensive post you’ve shared is not only against forum rules but rooted in harmful generalizations, historical inaccuracies, and misinterpretations of Muslim texts. It perpetuates a dangerous narrative that fuels Islamophobia and contributes to hate crimes against Muslim individuals and communities.

Criminal acts committed by individuals are not reflective of an entire religious group. Muslim communities around the world condemn abuse and violence.

Spreading misinformation and demonizing a group of people based on their faith is not a critique; it’s a form of hate speech that violates the principles of respect, equality, and human rights.

[proton]

7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

You should be ashamed.. 

The highly offensive post you’ve shared is not only against forum rules but rooted in harmful generalizations, historical inaccuracies, and misinterpretations of Muslim texts. It perpetuates a dangerous narrative that fuels Islamophobia and contributes to hate crimes against Muslim individuals and communities.

Criminal acts committed by individuals are not reflective of an entire religious group. Muslim communities around the world condemn abuse and violence.

Spreading misinformation and demonizing a group of people based on their faith is not a critique; it’s a form of hate speech that violates the principles of respect, equality, and human rights.

 

Its all TRUE from the Quran and Hadiths, not my opinions. Other facts about Muhhamad, he was responsible for 83 raids and wars in 20 years, none defensive, was a thief, slave owner and killer. He once sentenced 2 girls to death for singing a satirical song about him.

 

From Bukhari

 

Narrated `Aisha:

that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).

[Eloquent pilgrim]

10 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

It perpetuates a dangerous narrative that fuels Islamophobia

 

What is Islamophobia  ?

 

You've just accused a poster of fuelling it, so you better explain what it is, don't you think ?

 

And while you're at it, your comment is clearly not your own words, so please be kind enough to credit the source that you copied and pasted it from .... many thanks 

 

 

[Neeranam]

17 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Its all TRUE from the Quran and Hadiths, not my opinions. Other facts about Muhhamad, he was responsible for 83 raids and wars in 20 years, none defensive, was a thief, slave owner and killer. He once sentenced 2 girls to death for singing a satirical song about him.

 

From Bukhari

 

Narrated `Aisha:

that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).

In 7th-century Arabia, practices regarding marriage were vastly different from today's norms. Marriages often occurred at younger ages across many cultures, including in Europe and Asia.

The age of marriage and consent varied widely across societies until recent history. It's unjust and misleading to apply contemporary standards to ancient practices without considering historical and cultural contexts.
I could quote similar things from your Old Testament, if that's your religion?  

The cherry-picking of ancient religious texts to justify modern hate is a tactic that has been used to demonize all Abrahamic faiths.

Here's a starter - forcing a rape victim to marry the rapist -  Deuteronomy 22:28-29. I don't want to go down this road of religious texts out of context as it is highly offensive and hate speech. 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

23 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Muslim communities around the world condemn abuse and violence.

 

Oh, really; haven’t heard any of them, particularly in the UK, over the last 30 years, condemning the vile, depraved Pakistani Muslim members of the hundreds of rape gangs in the UK …. but you keep apologising for them, it really suits you, and aligns perfectly with all your previous Hamas apologist comments.

 

 

 

[josephbloggs]

1 minute ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Oh, really; haven’t heard any of them, particularly in the UK, over the last 30 years, condemning the vile, depraved Pakistani Muslim members of the hundreds of rape gangs in the UK …. but you keep apologising for them, it really suits you, and aligns perfectly with all your previous Hamas apologist comments.

 

 

 

Please point out where he apologised for them. 

[proton]

15 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

In 7th-century Arabia, practices regarding marriage were vastly different from today's norms. Marriages often occurred at younger ages across many cultures, including in Europe and Asia.

The age of marriage and consent varied widely across societies until recent history. It's unjust and misleading to apply contemporary standards to ancient practices without considering historical and cultural contexts.
I could quote similar things from your Old Testament, if that's your religion?  

The cherry-picking of ancient religious texts to justify modern hate is a tactic that has been used to demonize all Abrahamic faiths.

Here's a starter - forcing a rape victim to marry the rapist -  Deuteronomy 22:28-29. I don't want to go down this road of religious texts out of context as it is highly offensive and hate speech. 

 

No they did not include marrying a 6 year old and passing it off as - Allah told me it was permitted. The old testament is irrelevant as it is not regarded as the direct word of God. Muhhamad was a child abuser irrespective of any religious texts who used his 'revelations' to justify marrying wifes that were forbidden to him. 

 

 

[Neeranam]

 

4 minutes ago, proton said:

No they did not include marrying a 6 year old and passing it off as - Allah told me it was permitted. The old testament is irrelevant as it is not regarded as the direct word of God. 

Nonsense, Deuteronomy is the direct word of God, given to Moses on Mount Sinai.

[proton]

Just now, Neeranam said:

 

Nonsense, Deuteronomy is the word of God, given to Moses on Mount Sinai.

 

But Moses did not rape a nine year old child did he, was not a slave owner, thief or murderer and his example has not led to girls of other religions being mass raped thousands of years later in UK towns. This grooming crime is all down to one character- Muhammad.

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, proton said:

 

But Moses did not rape a nine year old child did he, was not a slave owner, thief or murderer and his example has not led to girls of other religions being mass raped thousands of years later in UK towns. This grooming crime is all down to one character- Muhammad.

 

1 Samuel 15:3   - Is killing children any better?

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, James105 said:

 

How so?  He put some words on social media.  He did not physically harm people or property.  What else did he do and why would they keep it secret if he did something else that warranted a sentence longer than a child rapist?  

What does the court record say?

 

Check that out, you’ll get the actual facts.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

But still faster than for many of those that you choose to defend. 

Who do I defend?

 

I'm very clear on my support for law, order and prosecuting criminals, regardless of who they are.

 

[Kinok Farang]

10 hours ago, proton said:

They follow a man who had a 6 year old 'wife' when he was 50 who he raped when she was 9 and who made up a book which condones raping your enemies and marriage to pre pubescent girls. He thinks he has done nothing wrong just as he thinks the prophet did nothing wrong. What did the muslim community have to say about this sick behaviour?

Aluah Akbar.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, proton said:

 

Where does it say in the Bible Jesus married a 6 year old, where does it condone rape and marrying toddlers. Don't bother mentioning that Rebecca was 3 because thats a lie that muslims like to spout, but there is nothing in the Bible about her age.

 

Grown men believing in fairy stories.

 

'twas ever thus.

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

What is Islamophobia  ?

 

You've just accused a poster of fuelling it, so you better explain what it is, don't you think ?

 

And while you're at it, your comment is clearly not your own words, so please be kind enough to credit the source that you copied and pasted it from .... many thanks 

 

 

Are you serious?

I suggest you start a change.org demanding an independent inquiry, I'll even sign it!

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Please point out where he apologised for them. 

He can't because I have never apologized for any grooming gang, of course. 

[Will B Good]

1 hour ago, proton said:

The old testament is irrelevant as it is not regarded as the direct word of God.

 

Only by Muslims.....in the other Abrahamic religions it is regarded as the divine word of God.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

11 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Are you serious?

I suggest you start a change.org demanding an independent inquiry, I'll even sign it!

 

You accused another poster of fuelling Islamophobia, and I simply asked you to explain what Islamophobia is; you seem to be at a complete loss to explain what Islamophobia is, which makes you look rather foolish considering you have accused someone of fuelling it.

 

If you cannot explain it, I suggest you retract your accusation and apologise to the poster you accused of fuelling it.

 

 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Who do I defend?

 

I'm very clear on my support for law, order and prosecuting criminals, regardless of who they are.

 

 

As clear as mud. You appear to defend the real offenders in this topic by using regular deflections. You use misleading terms such as "wide spread coordinated race riots" to try to transfer any guilt onto the long-time frustrated white working classes but then hail your hero, Starmer, for stamping same riots out - a separate topic but there you are!! Blame May but don't forget all the rest, especially the Labour councils in the North. 

 

There has been little serious action against these gangs for decades, even though this problem has been shown to have existed widely across England and known about by all governments (national and local) and other services over most of that time. Starmer is only the latest in the line of politicians who should have acted responsibly and strongly but he seems to want to do as little as possible about this. With all the information available today it's a pity that he can't commit to a full national inquiry and then do some worthwhile stamping out .... of these foul grooming gangs!

 

With weakness like this then the problem won't go away.

[Chomper Higgot]

36 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

As clear as mud. You appear to defend the real offenders in this topic by using regular deflections. You use misleading terms such as "wide spread coordinated race riots" to try to transfer any guilt onto the long-time frustrated white working classes but then hail your hero, Starmer, for stamping same riots out - a separate topic but there you are!! Blame May but don't forget all the rest, especially the Labour councils in the North. 

 

There has been little serious action against these gangs for decades, even though this problem has been shown to have existed widely across England and known about by all governments (national and local) and other services over most of that time. Starmer is only the latest in the line of politicians who should have acted responsibly and strongly but he seems to want to do as little as possible about this. With all the information available today it's a pity that he can't commit to a full national inquiry and then do some worthwhile stamping out .... of these foul grooming gangs!

 

With weakness like this then the problem won't go away.

That mud you mention obviously got I the way of you understanding this;

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

This criminal should obviously not be in the UK.

 

How does such a dangerous criminal that was ordered deported after serving his sentence get let out of prison early?

 

There is no logical reason why detention should not have been continued up until placed on the aircraft back to Pakistan.

Who was home secretary in 2014… oh it was Theresa May.

 

Perhaps she was too busy at the time decimating the police force.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway thanks for confirming you have zero evidence of me defending these criminals.

[proton]

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