Ugh. It's spilled over into this subforum as well.

 

Need a shower

If the election was held today Trump would of won California in a landslide.

 

Forget 2028 Newsom, you’re history.

5 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The CO2 as plant food argument has been put forward by deniers for years. If it was true, the rate of CO2 takeup would match the rate we are generating CO2 from fossil fuels. It's not.

I assume you understand how photosynthesis works?  CO2 is plant food, of a sort. Trees and other green plants take in CO2 and excrete Oxygen in sunlight.  Please explain how the CO2 takeup by trees would necessarily have to match the rate we are generating CO2 from fossil fuels?  Where is it written that there would have to be a match?  In any event, planting more trees would help, right?  And it might help if the Brazilian rain forest wasn't be destroyed at a huge rate. 

 

To be sure, we may be creating more CO2 than the plants can absorb.  Nobody is arguing otherwise.  But it's not just human activity.  Volcanos have caused big problems in the past.  Or, certain types of bacteria in the ocean. There's always an ebb and flow.  

 

Wasn't there a time in history where the earth's atmosphere contained too much oxygen? And that resulted in a cooling period, as methane, a green house gas,  was displaced.  This all took place hundreds of millions years ago at a time when there were no humans around to burn fossil fuels. .  It's interesting. Look it up. 

 

Anyway, I contend that, whatever the small variation in global warming currently being experienced, the larger trend is the more significant of the two. 

11 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I assume you understand how photosynthesis works?  CO2 is plant food, of a sort. Trees and other green plants take in CO2 and excrete Oxygen in sunlight.  Please explain how the CO2 takeup by trees would necessarily have to match the rate we are generating CO2 from fossil fuels?  Where is it written that there would have to be a match?  In any event, planting more trees would help, right?  And it might help if the Brazilian rain forest wasn't be destroyed at a huge rate. 

 

To be sure, we may be creating more CO2 than the plants can absorb.  Nobody is arguing otherwise.  But it's not just human activity.  Volcanos have caused big problems in the past.  Or, certain types of bacteria in the ocean. There's always an ebb and flow.  

 

Wasn't there a time in history where the earth's atmosphere contained too much oxygen? And that resulted in a cooling period, as methane, a green house gas,  was displaced.  This all took place hundreds of millions years ago at a time when there were no humans around to burn fossil fuels. .  It's interesting. Look it up. 

 

Anyway, I contend that, whatever the small variation in global warming currently being experienced, the larger trend is the more significant of the two. 

You are talking about events millions of years ago. It's another argument in the armory of deniers, "natural cycle". Blaming volcanoes is another.

 

Prior to the Industrial revolution, CO2 levels were 280 ppm. The attached graph shows what has happened since 1960, when fossil fuel burning really took off.

 

It is axiomatic we are generating CO2 faster than plants and trees can absorb it, otherwise the graph would be flat.

 

Do you know how the laws of thermodynamics work? The second law says we are warming the planet. The first law says the consequences of the second law is more violent storms, i.e. climate change.

 

Many have tried to beat the laws of thermodynamics, none have succeeded. You are welcome to try.

 

 

5 hours ago, transam said:

Strange your hero Trump didn't end the Afghan war, eh, Biden did.......

The USA is not at war in Ukraine, do read a bit more on the facts...🙄

Who is supplying the weapons? Who is allowing their use and to strike into Russian territory?

the US is fuelling war and using Ukraine to do it. If you don't know that then you shouldn't comment on these threads

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

If you could read my reply, perfectly visible on my notebook,, no doubt would be a blank screen in your mind being a dedicated member of MAGA i.e. facts do not compute if contrary to trump's ill-informed rants.

Unreadable 

6 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

Doesn't stop me lying awake at night worrying about the EC.

Best not to worry about things you have no control over.

 

You’ll be rewarded with uninterrupted deep sleep.

6 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

Blindingly obvious surely, even to a MAGA fan......there is something seriously wrong with the EC set up.

 

I have no doubt some of the MAGA crowd would be rioting in the Capitol had Trump had won the popular vote but lost due to the EC.....like that would ever happen...555

That may well be, but didn't seem to matter to anyone when Biden 'won', or obama, i don't think it's mattered at all apart from the 2 times Trump won.

Also regarding the popular vote, you say Trump only had a slim win against Harris at 1.5%. Well, 2016  was only a 2% win for Hillary.

 the double standards here are , well, as to be expected. 

TD crew.. "Trump only won by 1.5%'

Also TD crew.. 'Hillary won by 3million"

When the actual difference in votes was about 550k, 1/2 %

 

9 hours ago, G_Money said:

 
I was correct in my assessment.

 

You’re a lost cause.

 

And a complete waste of time.

Only by your assessment, what ever that's worth. 

20 hours ago, G_Money said:

Just because you dress up like a firefighter in boyztown doesn’t make you a real firefighter.

Congratulations. Again, the dumbest, most ignorant, and least informed post of the day. 

 

Keep up the hate. It is you being you. 

19 hours ago, jas007 said:

 

The fires usually start in the brush, not in the forest canopy.  The brush should be periodically cleared, and the county knows it, the city knows it, and the state knows.  And yet those governing bodies seemed to have other priorities.

 

As for the fire hydrants?  Don't you think some of those houses might have been saved if the fire hydrants worked?  

 

Finally, do you know about California Proposition 1, I think, that was passed by the voters in 2014 and which provided that the state spend billions of dollars on new reservoirs and water infrastructure?  And yet here we are, 10 years later, and do you know how many new reservoirs have been built? ZERO. None.  What happened to the money?

 

As for climate change and insurance companies?  In July, State Farm cancelled the homeowners insurance policies in many of the affected areas.  Climate change?  I hardly think so.  That's just another Deep State boogeyman used as a tactic to induce fear and government control. Rather, the insurance companies knew full well that for every season the hillside maintenance was neglected, the risk of fire increased astronomically. California law apparently prohibits or makes it difficult to increase premiums on homeowners insurance, and so to protect themselves, the insurance companies just cancelled the policies.

 

And finally, I'm sure the people living in those areas pay some of the highest property taxes.  For all that money, don't you think it's reasonable for them to assume that in return they would receive competent protection against a known risk?  These types of fires happen all the time.  The best that can be done is to try to manage the risk.  It's not rocket science. 

 

Everyone assumes that the government will provide all the basic services. That's their function. That's their job. That's what people pay for.  When you call 911, you assume the cops will come in short order.  When you call for an ambulance, you assume an ambulance will arrive, sirens blaring.  If you call to report a fire, you assume the fire department can and will handle it.  Or what about air traffic control or licensed pilots?  Don't you assume that, when you fly somewhere, the pilot is competent? That the air traffic control  people know what they're doing?  

 

The people running the show weren't doing their job.  

Uninformed diatribe. 

 

Absolutely zero connection with the reservoirs upstate. Just a biased, tired, untruthful political meme.

The real story?
Officials now say the storage tanks that hold water for high-elevation areas like the Highlands, and the pumping systems that feed them, could not keep pace with the demand as the fire raced from one neighborhood to another. That was in part because those who designed the system did not account for the stunning speeds at which multiple fires would race through the Los Angeles area this week.

“We are looking at a situation that is just completely not part of any domestic water system design,” said Marty Adams, a former general manager and chief engineer at the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, which is responsible for delivering water to nearly four million residents of Los Angeles.

Municipal water systems are designed for firefighters to tap into multiple hydrants at once, allowing them to maintain a steady flow of water for crews who may be trying to protect a large structure or a handful of homes. But these systems can buckle when wildfires, such as those fueled by the dry brush that surrounds Los Angeles’s hillside communities, rage through entire neighborhoods.

57 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Uninformed diatribe. 

 

Absolutely zero connection with the reservoirs upstate. Just a biased, tired, untruthful political meme.

The real story?
Officials now say the storage tanks that hold water for high-elevation areas like the Highlands, and the pumping systems that feed them, could not keep pace with the demand as the fire raced from one neighborhood to another. That was in part because those who designed the system did not account for the stunning speeds at which multiple fires would race through the Los Angeles area this week.

“We are looking at a situation that is just completely not part of any domestic water system design,” said Marty Adams, a former general manager and chief engineer at the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, which is responsible for delivering water to nearly four million residents of Los Angeles.

Municipal water systems are designed for firefighters to tap into multiple hydrants at once, allowing them to maintain a steady flow of water for crews who may be trying to protect a large structure or a handful of homes. But these systems can buckle when wildfires, such as those fueled by the dry brush that surrounds Los Angeles’s hillside communities, rage through entire neighborhoods.

 

"State to probe why Pacific Palisades reservoir was offline, empty when firestorm exploded"

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-10/as-flames-raged-in-palisades-a-key-reservoir-nearby-was-offline

On 1/9/2025 at 5:52 PM, Lacessit said:

It's not Newsom's fault, or Biden's fault. It's the inevitable result of climate change, and it will get worse.

 

Trump is doing his usual thing, no surprise there. As he is a narcissistic sociopath, expecting decency or compassion is a bridge too far.

 

Most political leaders left or right, are not equipped to understand or deal with what is coming. The number in the world with scientific qualifications can probably be counted on the fingers of one hand.

Lot of Democrat losers on here, who are still in the anger stage of the grief cycle🤣

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Uninformed diatribe. 

 

Absolutely zero connection with the reservoirs upstate. Just a biased, tired, untruthful political meme.

The real story?
Officials now say the storage tanks that hold water for high-elevation areas like the Highlands, and the pumping systems that feed them, could not keep pace with the demand as the fire raced from one neighborhood to another. That was in part because those who designed the system did not account for the stunning speeds at which multiple fires would race through the Los Angeles area this week.

“We are looking at a situation that is just completely not part of any domestic water system design,” said Marty Adams, a former general manager and chief engineer at the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, which is responsible for delivering water to nearly four million residents of Los Angeles.

Municipal water systems are designed for firefighters to tap into multiple hydrants at once, allowing them to maintain a steady flow of water for crews who may be trying to protect a large structure or a handful of homes. But these systems can buckle when wildfires, such as those fueled by the dry brush that surrounds Los Angeles’s hillside communities, rage through entire neighborhoods.

Bull<deleted> exscuses. The four top leaders of the LA Fire Dept are lesbians with Harvard Degrees in DEI. They failed.

 

28 minutes ago, Albaby said:

Lot of Democrat losers on here, who are still in the anger stage of the grief cycle🤣

Lots of Republican losers too, they just haven't realized it yet.

On 1/9/2025 at 5:39 PM, G_Money said:

Are you that dumb?

Wow! That really came from the right mouth. 😂

Californians that leave california and take their failed ideology with them live with an incredible amount of cognitive dissonance

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Lots of Republican losers too, they just haven't realized it yet.

Just give it a little time, there's going to be a massive letdown and a tremendous level of disappointment, once these people realize just who he is, what his motivations are, and why he will not follow through in the vast majority of his promises. 

7 hours ago, Artisi said:

Only by your assessment, what ever that's worth. 

In your case, mine is all that matters.

 

 

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Just give it a little time, there's going to be a massive letdown and a tremendous level of disappointment, once these people realize just who he is, what his motivations are, and why he will not follow through in the vast majority of his promises. 

Your predictions have not been accurate in the past.

 

Your predictions for the future will follow the same path.

 

But keep dreaming.  That’s all you have left.

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Uninformed diatribe. 

 

Absolutely zero connection with the reservoirs upstate. Just a biased, tired, untruthful political meme.

The real story?
Officials now say the storage tanks that hold water for high-elevation areas like the Highlands, and the pumping systems that feed them, could not keep pace with the demand as the fire raced from one neighborhood to another. That was in part because those who designed the system did not account for the stunning speeds at which multiple fires would race through the Los Angeles area this week.

“We are looking at a situation that is just completely not part of any domestic water system design,” said Marty Adams, a former general manager and chief engineer at the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, which is responsible for delivering water to nearly four million residents of Los Angeles.

Municipal water systems are designed for firefighters to tap into multiple hydrants at once, allowing them to maintain a steady flow of water for crews who may be trying to protect a large structure or a handful of homes. But these systems can buckle when wildfires, such as those fueled by the dry brush that surrounds Los Angeles’s hillside communities, rage through entire neighborhoods.

I can believe Trump let this happen

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Lots of Republican losers too, they just haven't realized it yet.

I’m/we're not seeing what you’re seeing.

 

I’m seeing entire news stories dedicated to “lefties losing it”.  Not righties losing it.

 

The icing on the cake is the best show comes from your very own country of citizenship, Australia.  How sweet it is.

 

There is a reason for the lefties madness.  They’re nutters.

 

Watch and listen closely.

 

 

13 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Who is supplying the weapons? Who is allowing their use and to strike into Russian territory?

the US is fuelling war and using Ukraine to do it. If you don't know that then you shouldn't comment on these threads

Most of the planet is supplying weapons to Ukraine to remove a tyrant, didn't you know that, plus, are you saying YOUR Russia is not supplying weapons to others around the planet........🤣

 

Even N.Korea is helping your tyrant with ammo and BOOTS on the ground to help YOUR leaders failures.

 

You really are a silly boy..............🤭

Democratic leadership is baffling!

 

Wild Wild West!

 

 

19 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Democratic leadership is baffling!

 

Wild Wild West!

 

 

As if any one with a brain would beleive one word that comes out of this village idiots mouth. He is about as intelligent as your idol Trump.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Just give it a little time, there's going to be a massive letdown and a tremendous level of disappointment, once these people realize just who he is, what his motivations are, and why he will not follow through in the vast majority of his promises. 

If he doesn't "follow through with the vast majority of his promises," it won't be for a lack of trying.  It'll be because the political system is broken.  At this very moment, the Biden administration appears to be doing everything in its power to sabotage Trump, his plans, and his incoming administration.  For example, much of the money provided for the "Inflation Reduction Act" has not been spent. So what is Biden doing?  Signing long term contracts to spend as much of the money as he can in as many ways possible.  Those are hard to wiggle out of.  The money has been appropriated, and once the contracts have ben signed, that's that.  In other words, more inflation. Much more. I think the American people can count on that, at least at first. At some point, all the AI agents and the effects of AI may be deflationary. 

 

Of course, there are things the Biden administration can't control.  The effect of the Bond Market Vigilantes, for example.  They can control the long end of the yield curve, and there's not much Biden or the Fed can do about it.  The bond market is too big. So, Trump may well be thwarted in his plans to spend spend spend.  At some point, higher interest rates will crash the system. Zero interest rats may still be possible, though.  It's that or the end of the financial system as we know it. We'll see. Typically, they find a way to kick the can down the road. 

 

All things considered, Trump may have a hard time of it.  I do worry, though, about his treats to Hamas over the hostages.  He's not kidding.  

On 1/9/2025 at 5:37 PM, spidermike007 said:

So typical of a Trump supporter, always deflection and never an answer to the question at large. 

couldnt agree more

one has to wonder how the people who served on that jury feel about the decision, that means jury decisions don't count, maybe next time they are called for jury duty, they will be "sick" and not show up, the guy should be locked up

Here's How People Are Reacting To Trump's Criminal Sentencing, Because...What

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/heres-people-reacting-trumps-criminal-185252528.html

 

2 minutes ago, jas007 said:

If he doesn't "follow through with the vast majority of his promises," it won't be for a lack of trying.  It'll be because the political system is broken.  At this very moment, the Biden administration appears to be doing everything in its power to sabotage Trump, his plans, and his incoming administration.  For example, much of the money provided for the "Inflation Reduction Act" has not been spent. So what is Biden doing?  Signing long term contracts to spend as much of the money as he can in as many ways possible.  Those are hard to wiggle out of.  The money has been appropriated, and once the contracts have ben signed, that's that.  In other words, more inflation. Much more. I think the American people can count on that, at least at first. At some point, all the AI agents and the effects of AI may be deflationary. 

 

Of course, there are things the Biden administration can't control.  The effect of the Bond Market Vigilantes, for example.  They can control the long end of the yield curve, and there's not much Biden or the Fed can do about it.  The bond market is too big. So, Trump may well be thwarted in his plans to spend spend spend.  At some point, higher interest rates will crash the system. Zero interest rats may still be possible, though.  It's that or the end of the financial system as we know it. We'll see. Typically, they find a way to kick the can down the road. 

 

All things considered, Trump may have a hard time of it.  I do worry, though, about his treats to Hamas over the hostages.  He's not kidding.  

so you already blaming Trump's "potential" failures on someone else.   gotta love US politics!  and the idiots that support them

thy claim they didn't do anything wrong, if that's the case why not allow the release of the report... hummm smells fishy it shoud be or it's fishy

Trump Mar-a-Lago co-defendants ask Cannon to further block Smith report

 

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5080370-mar-a-lago-case-cannon-block-report/