8 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

 

Dumb ideas commonly cause pain.  Yet some people here still promote them.  The ruling class of California is first in class for dumb ideas.  Yet some people here still can't see them for what they are; dumb ideas.  Dumb ideas are ideas that don't work.

 

LA is burning down.

 

That should be a wake up call that brings attention to all of the dumb ideas.  And the dumb azzes in charge who implement the dumb ideas should immediately be tossed out.  Newsom, the LA mayor, and the fire chief would be a good start.  Unfortunately, doing that wouldn't change a thing.  Because the dumb azzes who voted for these dumb azzes, because they believe that their dumb azz ideas are actually workable and still believe in their dumb azz ideas, will simply vote for the next dumb azz who promotes the same dumb azz ideas.  So, nothing ever changes in California.

 

I find the most laughable posts are the ones that attempt to convince that this mass scale tragic travesty could not have been avoided by applying human agency.  Those are the posters who altogether missed the wake up call.  Maybe it's to avoid having their dumb azz ideas scrutinized because they don't want to change their dumb azz ideas.

 

BTW, these fires are nowhere near being contained.  Much more pain to come.

 

 

Does anyone know what this post is about?......don't say dumb ideas.

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

But but Trump

 

 

You may well be correct.....

 

As Mayor of London, Boris Johnson instigated the closure 12 fire stations and a retirement of 18 fire engines in London as part of cost-saving measures.

 

He took this action prior to the Grenfell disaster....oh wait......Johnson was our poundshop Trump....not a good example to raise for you.

 

56 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

I'm confused.

 

Global warming reduces the wind speed?

No. As the planet warms, AVERAGE wind speeds increase. 2011 was an outlier, there will be more of them.

 

55 minutes ago, proton said:

 

The 95% of scientists was debunked years ago. Co2 is just 0.04% of the atmosphere, of that 97% is natural the amount humans contribute makes zero difference to global warming

This is not natural, it's man-made. Link to your 95% assertion? Where are your academic qualifications?

 

 

12 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

No. As the planet warms, AVERAGE wind speeds increase. 2011 was an outlier, there will be more of them.

 

 

Ah, I understand.

 

Whatever doesn't fit the narrative can be excluded as an "outlier."

 

That's convenient.

6 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Ah, I understand.

 

Whatever doesn't fit the narrative can be excluded as an "outlier."

 

That's convenient.

If you think a Santa Ana wind of 100 km/hr fits the narrative of no climate change, there's a bridge in Sydney I'd like to sell you.

Progressives governing  doesn’t work!

 

1.3 billion to the homeless to enable , drug demise and poverty.

 

Cutting fire budgets 

 

no water infrastructure projects , for fire management !

Such as Water desalination of ocean water.

 

Progressive leadership  has been destructive, just like all their policies where they have a hand in policy.

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

Progressives governing  doesn’t work!

 

1.3 billion to the homeless to enable , drug demise and poverty.

 

Cutting fire budgets 

 

no water infrastructure projects , for fire management !

Such as Water desalination of ocean water.

 

Progressive leadership in this catastrophe has been destructive, just like all their policies where they have a hand in policy.

 

 

 

 

 

Of course the Trump way is best......

 

Trump's Amazing Accomplishments.

• Promised to cut the deficit but added $8trillion to it.
• Promised to build a wall; completed only 458 miles out of 2,000, mostly repairs.
• Promised Mexico would pay for the wall; they didn't.
• Promised a new healthcare plan; it never existed.
• Promised a middle-class tax cut; primarily cut taxes for the rich, leaving the middle class to bear the burden.
• Promised not to play golf; made 250 visits to his own golf clubs, costing taxpayers $150 million.
• Promised to increase economic growth by 4%; didn't achieve it, President Biden did
• Promised an infrastructure plan; had none, President Biden signed a massive one.
• Promised to hire "the best people"; fired 3/4 of them, then labeled them the worst.
• Promised to reduce prescription drug prices; didn't happen, President Biden did.
• Promised to win the trade war with China; it cost about a quarter million jobs.
• Promised corporate tax cuts would benefit workers;corporations used the money to buy back stocks instead.
• Promised to revive the coal industry; more coal jobs were lost during his presidency.

 

Loan forgiveness for the wealthy who took PPP loans to remodel their homes and go on vacation.
Then came Jan 6th

A documentary from 1962 by the Los Angeles Fire Department.

Same old problem ! 

No water, no pressure to deal with Disaster!It cost millions than, but now 

billions upon billions! Dem , progressive leaders are a curse to society!

 

 

 

 

 

39 minutes ago, riclag said:

Progressives governing  doesn’t work!

 

1.3 billion to the homeless to enable , drug demise and poverty.

 

Cutting fire budgets 

 

no water infrastructure projects , for fire management !

Such as Water desalination of ocean water.

 

Progressive leadership  has been destructive, just like all their policies where they have a hand in policy.

 

 

 

In Australia, there is free hospital care.

We pay $7.50 for most prescriptions.

We have the ACCC, which protects consumers from the predatory practices of of corporations.

We have the Fair Work Commission, which protects workers from unfair dismissal, or underpayment.

We don't need to teach our children how to avoid getting shot in school.

 

To me, that's progressive.

 

15 minutes ago, riclag said:

A documentary from 1962 by the Los Angeles Fire Department.

Same old problem ! 

No water, no pressure to deal with Disaster!It cost millions than, but now 

billions upon billions! Dem , progressive leaders are a curse to society!

 

 

 

 

 

Why didn't Trump fix all your woes during 2016/20.....?  🤔

Just now, NoDisplayName said:

 

 

 

This data proves that when Trump builds a big, beautiful wall then the Santa Anna Winds will die down, Making Angeles Gentle Again........

 

 

 

........and Hell will have finally frozen over.

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

If you think a Santa Ana wind of 100 km/hr fits the narrative of no climate change, there's a bridge in Sydney I'd like to sell you.

 

Earliest references to Santa Anna winds are in 1769 (Spanish Portola expedition) Stockton's 1847 liberation of Los Angeles.  And now they correspond to increases in illegal immigration from Mexico.  The trend is irrefutable.

 

This data proves that when Trump builds a big, beautiful wall then the Santa Anna Winds will die down, Making Angeles Gentle Again.

21 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Earliest references to Santa Anna winds are in 1769 (Spanish Portola expedition) Stockton's 1847 liberation of Los Angeles.  And now they correspond to increases in illegal immigration from Mexico.  The trend is irrefutable.

 

This data proves that when Trump builds a big, beautiful wall then the Santa Anna Winds will die down, Making Angeles Gentle Again.

I applaud your construction of history, designed for urine extraction. A copy of the Oldenburg stork correlation.

 

IMO the Santa Anna winds will get much worse, when the hot air from Washington arrives over the next four years.

Can we still blame trump?

Yes, yes we can!

 

LAFD Deputy Chief Faces Backlash for Past Remarks on Fire Victims

"Am I able to carry your husband out of a fire? He got himself in the wrong place if I have to carry him out."

...

Larson, a 33-year veteran and the first African American woman to serve as deputy chief of the LAFD, oversees the department's Equity and Human Resources Bureau. Her role includes championing diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives.

https://www.newsweek.com/lafd-deputy-chief-faces-backlash-past-remarks-fire-victims-2013351

 

Apparently what's really important as your house burns down around you is that the responding fire fighters "look like you."

 

Newsweek article links to her video on X (formerly Twitter!)

 

2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

2 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

 

Dumb ideas commonly cause pain.  Yet some people here still promote them.  The ruling class of California is first in class for dumb ideas.  Yet some people here still can't see them for what they are; dumb ideas.  Dumb ideas are ideas that don't work.

 

LA is burning down.

 

That should be a wake up call that brings attention to all of the dumb ideas.  And the dumb azzes in charge who implement the dumb ideas should immediately be tossed out.  Newsom, the LA mayor, and the fire chief would be a good start.  Unfortunately, doing that wouldn't change a thing.  Because the dumb azzes who voted for these dumb azzes, because they believe that their dumb azz ideas are actually workable and still believe in their dumb azz ideas, will simply vote for the next dumb azz who promotes the same dumb azz ideas.  So, nothing ever changes in California.

 

I find the most laughable posts are the ones that attempt to convince that this mass scale tragic travesty could not have been avoided by applying human agency.  Those are the posters who altogether missed the wake up call.  Maybe it's to avoid having their dumb azz ideas scrutinized because they don't want to change their dumb azz ideas.

 

BTW, these fires are nowhere near being contained.  Much more pain to come.

 

 

Does anyone know what this post is about?......don't say dumb ideas.

 

It's about the people who believe in dumb azz ideas.  Since you claim that you're clueless as to what this post addresses then that's the evidence that you're one of those people.  No wake up call for you?  No five alarm bells ringing nonstop in your head?  Rose coloured glasses do that to people, I hear.

 

Dude, you mean to tell me that this uncontained fire and the massive destruction it's caused and is still causing - not simply the property casualty but the human suffering - has nothing to do with the policies of the woke California Democratic "leadership" in California  who control the state with an iron fist?  Now that's a dumb azz idea.

From LAFD 2024 budget

https://ens.lacity.org/lafd/lafdreportarchv/lafdlafdreport1864182076_07302024.pdf

 

Wildland Fuel Management Crew Program Funding to support salaries for 29 positions (UB) -  $1.27M

Equity and Inclusion Staffing continuation - $1.8M

 

Priorities.

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

This is not natural, it's man-made. Link to your 95% assertion? Where are your academic qualifications?

 

 

 

Is this the same science that came up with the 6-foot distancing during Covid to stop the spread?

 

Where are your academic qualifications?

 

LOL.  As if that is any kind of a guarantor of competence, ability, or especially honesty.

38 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

From LAFD 2024 budget

https://ens.lacity.org/lafd/lafdreportarchv/lafdlafdreport1864182076_07302024.pdf

 

Wildland Fuel Management Crew Program Funding to support salaries for 29 positions (UB) -  $1.27M

Equity and Inclusion Staffing continuation - $1.8M

 

Priorities.

 

DEI is one of the dumb azz ideas that don't work.  Lots of companies now <deleted>canning those programs.  Why?  Because DEI is a dumb azz idea.  And they're finding out that it doesn't work.

29 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

 

Is this the same science that came up with the 6-foot distancing during Covid to stop the spread?

 

Where are your academic qualifications?

 

LOL.  As if that is any kind of a guarantor of competence, ability, or especially honesty.

 

52 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

 

It's about the people who believe in dumb azz ideas.  Since you claim that you're clueless as to what this post addresses then that's the evidence that you're one of those people.  No wake up call for you?  No five alarm bells ringing nonstop in your head?  Rose coloured glasses do that to people, I hear.

 

Dude, you mean to tell me that this uncontained fire and the massive destruction it's caused and is still causing - not simply the property casualty but the human suffering - has nothing to do with the policies of the woke California Democratic "leadership" in California  who control the state with an iron fist?  Now that's a dumb azz idea.

Op:Money went from Biden administration to Iran . Iran  supports Terrorist proxies. Hamas used monies to build tunnels and other facilities to support terror infrastructure instead

of a oasis on the grounds.

 

Biden & Dems never hold their screwups accountable .

Biden says to Newsome spend what ever it takes . Look at that documentary produced by LAFD above , they are still dealing with the same Progressive lunacy from the 60’s ,start at time stamp 23:00.

 

 

2 hours ago, transam said:

Why didn't Trump fix all your woes during 2016/20.....?  🤔

 

Nice video, riclag.  

Has it occurred to anyone else on this forum that climate change denialism is not incompatible with National Socialist ideology? The idea being that, yes, climate change will result in global famines and wars over dwindling resources and habitable land, but that white people with their material resources and intellectual capabilities will be in the best position to adapt to these changes and exploit the changed environment.

 

That thinking is straight out of National Socialist ideology, i.e., that all of life is a struggle to survive, and only the best will survive. There are probably some people reading this saying to themselves 'sounds pretty good to me,' but the only problem is that there will be plenty of genetically inferior white people who will be culled in the process, killed off in the famines or killed off defending the homeland against the zombie apocalypse of invading climate refugees, or embarking on wars of territorial conquest.  

 

Like the average Josef Frankenheimers of 1930's Germany who realized only when it was too late that they would bear the brunt of Hitler's delusional thinking, Trump's working class and poorly educated MAGA supporters will be the ones who end up paying a dear price, and they will also be reviled for generations to come for having enabled his climate change denialism.

17 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

Has it occurred to anyone else on this forum that climate change denialism is not incompatible with National Socialist ideology? The idea being that, yes, climate change will result in global famines and wars over dwindling resources and habitable land, but that white people with their material resources and intellectual capabilities will be in the best position to adapt to these changes and exploit the changed environment.

 

That thinking is straight out of National Socialist ideology, i.e., that all of life is a struggle to survive, and only the best will survive. There are probably some people reading this saying to themselves 'sounds pretty good to me,' but the only problem is that there will be plenty of genetically inferior white people who will be culled in the process, killed off in the famines or killed off defending the homeland against the zombie apocalypse of invading climate refugees, or embarking on wars of territorial conquest.  

 

Like the average Josef Frankenheimers of 1930's Germany who realized only when it was too late that they would bear the brunt of Hitler's delusional thinking, Trump's working class and poorly educated MAGA supporters will be the ones who end up paying a dear price, and they will also be reviled for generations to come for having enabled his climate change denialism.

 

Wow!  Sounds like you've got a great storyline.  With a bit of work I think you can turn your post into a best selling dystopian novel.  Your post shows great creative imagination.  Granted, heavily on the negative side.  But hey, doom and gloom sells well.  Just curious.  Will there be any survivors?

 

Sarcasm aside, there are so many fallacies  contained in your viewpoint that it would be difficult which one to begin with.  I'm leaning towards the climate change denialism but then that would be going off topic since so-called climate change undoubtedly had nothing to do with these fires.  Which is the topic.

3 hours ago, Lacessit said:

In Australia, there is free hospital care.

We pay $7.50 for most prescriptions.

We have the ACCC, which protects consumers from the predatory practices of of corporations.

We have the Fair Work Commission, which protects workers from unfair dismissal, or underpayment.

We don't need to teach our children how to avoid getting shot in school.

 

To me, that's progressive.

 

 

 

Nothing is free. 

7 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

 

 so-called climate change undoubtedly had nothing to do with these fires. 

Please parade your array of academic credentials which allow you to make such an authoritative statement.

 

What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Please parade your array of academic credentials which allow you to make such an authoritative statement.

 

What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Ditto. You need to prove this mess in CA was caused by climate change. 

 

 

What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

 

 

2 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

 

It's about the people who believe in dumb azz ideas.  Since you claim that you're clueless as to what this post addresses then that's the evidence that you're one of those people.  No wake up call for you?  No five alarm bells ringing nonstop in your head?  Rose coloured glasses do that to people, I hear.

 

Dude, you mean to tell me that this uncontained fire and the massive destruction it's caused and is still causing - not simply the property casualty but the human suffering - has nothing to do with the policies of the woke California Democratic "leadership" in California  who control the state with an iron fist?  Now that's a dumb azz idea.

 

Calm down dear, calm down.

Simply too many trees.

 

Keep them in the forest where they belong.

35 minutes ago, TedG said:

Ditto. You need to prove this mess in CA was caused by climate change. 

 

 

What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

 

 

Nothing proves climate change to lefties like a bunch of lowlives setting arson fires on windy days. I mean, come on, its conclusive proof of muh climate change

5 hours ago, riclag said:

A documentary from 1962 by the Los Angeles Fire Department.

Same old problem ! 

No water, no pressure to deal with Disaster!It cost millions than, but now 

billions upon billions! Dem , progressive leaders are a curse to society!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Which begs the question......when these fires really started to kick off during Trump's presidency....what did he do about it?