Over 15,000 Doctors Urge Senate to Block RFK Jr.’s Nomination as Health Secretary

[Patong2021]

The parade of ignorant white males  is marching to and fro.  They think they have been empowered, but just wait and see. 🙂  Their collective low cognitive capability combined with an absence of  basic education in the sciences makes them easy to manipulate. They are going to march off the cliff into the abyss and not even know it.

 

3 hours ago, zepplin said:

The only clear danger is the doctors who get paid big money to inject as many vaccines as possible into babies and dumb adults! 
70 vaccines in the USA, I. Thailand is about 7!  And all the conspiracy people who were told they are crazy, because they stood up against getting vaccinated, are now all proven to be right! 
go RFK ! Clean up the cesspool that is big pharma in the USA!!

 

The vaccine dosing schedule in Thailand is similar to what is recommended  in the USA.  Doctors are not paid "big money" to inject as many vaccines as possible. On the contrary, the compensation for a vaccine dose is minimal compared to the treatment of preventable illnesses like measles and the resulting birth defects during pregnancy.

 

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Of course these white-coats don't want RFK jr. Their cushy jobs are at risk.

 

Changes in the understanding of health matters are long overdue. Is Kennedy the guy to do it?  These (compromised?) white-coats seem to think so.

 

We will soon see,

 

What cushy jobs? You obviously have never been in a rural or inner city hospital where physicians are over worked.  It's wonderful that you don't need the services of a physician.  However, I know that once you succumb to your lifestyle disease, you will be in the doctor's office crying and begging for treatment. That's what the unvaccinated patients with Covid did. They ridiculed the Covid vaccines and then as they lay dying in the ICU were begging for the vaccine, even though it couldn't help at that stage.

 

2 hours ago, BE88 said:

 

15,000 doctors paid by Big Pharma, which pays very well if you have an easy shot with a good bank account

 

Rubbish. Who are the physicians being paid by big Pharma. The association of rural physicians is  the reason why so many residents in rural America can still access medical care.

 

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The dumbest of the dumb are those parents that allow the poison filth to be injected into their babies and toddlers and kids. I don't care if they get injected themselves.

 

Sure. is it because  mumps and measles are harmless? With your logic, children would still be in iron lungs and crippled from polio. Truly dangerous and ignorant. You are protected because others are smart enough to be vaccinated. Truly, I do hope  you are infected with one of the preventable illnesses you wish to spread, and you can then  entertain us with the delights of your suffering. And suffer you will from the effect of varicella zoster if it erupts  on your face. Maybe mumps induced menningitis will improve your cognitive  ability. I don't know, but I'd be willing to  let you try.  There is a 30% likelihood of death from tetanus, so you needn't worry about  cutting yourself ona garden implement or one of the jagged items that are found around Thailand. No need to worry about Rubella since you are an adult male. Who cares if pregnant women self abort or produce retarded children, right? 

[JonnyF]

Sounds like these doctors are worried about their customer base shrinking. 

[tomazbodner]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I am if I don't want to stroke out and end up in a vegetative coma for years. Can't get all the important heart and suchlike medications without a prescription from a Dr ( in NZ ). It's not like Thailand and over the counter.

 

My mother never went to see a Dr and used herbs etc till her foot went black and her leg had to be amputated due to out of control diabetes. It killed her too.

I'll use pharma thanks.

LOL. Before pharma people died at 40 or less. Only the rich lived long.

 

Here you go

 

https://sc.edu/uofsc/posts/2022/08/conversation-old-age-is-not-a-modern-phenomenon.php

In medieval England, life expectancy at birth for boys born to families that owned land was a mere 31.3 years

Above was intended for green/yellow striped member but some others posted in between so it didn't show up immediately after total ignorance. And, of course, it was sarcastic response to that.

[cdemundo]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Another great thing about it is that you can just attack the person making the claim (which any moron can do effortlessly) and not have to attack the claim, which takes a bit of effort. 

 

 

This was in response to my post:

["a radical Socialist organization that hates the USA and promotes censorship, genital mutilation of children, adoption of children by Homosexuals, terrorism, Hamas, socialized medicine, Orwellian vaccine mandates and DEI. "

 

One great thing about having this discussion online is not getting hit by the spittle spray when certain types spew statements like this.]

 

The claims are completely unsupported.

The poster simply went down a laundry list of their own trigger points.

No support at all for their claims about The Committee to Protect Healthcare.

This is roughly equivalent to calling individuals one disagrees with a Leninist with nothing to support that claim.

And as you point out any moron can call someone a Leninist effortlessly without even knowing what a Leninist is.

 

From the website of The Committee to Protect Healthcare:

"The Committee to Protect Health Care is a national mobilization of health care professionals who are building a pro-patient health care majority in Congress and the States – holding the line for health care reform that works for patients, so that we can live in a United States where everyone has the health care they need to thrive."

 

 

 

[AgMech Cowboy]

All the more reason to get him confirmed ASAP.  That's less than 2% and they're the ones who are probably making bank from all the lies about the food, additives, medicines and, yes, even vaccinations, especially the mRNA type.

[AgMech Cowboy]

32 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

From the website of The Committee to Protect Healthcare:

WOW!! You convinced me right there!!!

[cdemundo]

11 minutes ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

WOW!! You convinced me right there!!!

But you were convinced by the absurd slanders from Yagoda,

Source?

Pulled out of his A$$.

Great critical thinking Cowboy.

[Stiddle Mump]

3 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

You obviously have never been in a rural or inner city hospital where physicians are over worked.  It's wonderful that you don't need the services of a physician.  However, I know that once you succumb to your lifestyle disease, you will be in the doctor's office crying and begging for treatment. That's what the unvaccinated patients with Covid did. They ridiculed the Covid vaccines and then as they lay dying in the ICU were begging for the vaccine, even though it couldn't help at that stage.

''You obviously have never been in a rural or inner city hospital where physicians are over worked. '' I have. Not seen too much overworking though.

 

''I know that once you succumb to your lifestyle disease, you will be in the doctor's office crying and begging for treatment.'' Lifestyle disease? Wonder what that might be!  I might go to hospital if I'm in an accident, and break a leg. Otherwise I'll look after myself.

 

''That's what the unvaccinated patients with Covid did.'' Really? Too much CNN and BBC for you Sir.

 

''They ridiculed the Covid vaccines and then as they lay dying in the ICU were begging for the vaccine, even though it couldn't help at that stage.'' Did they? Different to my research. Begging for what treatment? An anti-vaxxer begging for a vax; I don't think so. Most anti-vaxxers I know, don't think covid was anywhere near as dangerous as it was made out to be. Dr Vernon Coleman called it the rebranded flu.

 

[Stiddle Mump]

4 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Just like satan, he mixes truth in with the lies

What lies would they be Happy?

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

''You obviously have never been in a rural or inner city hospital where physicians are over worked. '' I have. Not seen too much overworking though.

 

''I know that once you succumb to your lifestyle disease, you will be in the doctor's office crying and begging for treatment.'' Lifestyle disease? Wonder what that might be!  I might go to hospital if I'm in an accident, and break a leg. Otherwise I'll look after myself.

 

''That's what the unvaccinated patients with Covid did.'' Really? Too much CNN and BBC for you Sir.

 

''They ridiculed the Covid vaccines and then as they lay dying in the ICU were begging for the vaccine, even though it couldn't help at that stage.'' Did they? Different to my research. Begging for what treatment? An anti-vaxxer begging for a vax; I don't think so. Most anti-vaxxers I know, don't think covid was anywhere near as dangerous as it was made out to be. Dr Vernon Coleman called it the rebranded flu.

 

It's a good bet that people going on about doctors being "overworked" never did 8-12 hours on a roof, in a ditch, stocking shelves, welding, wrenching of running screws on a line.

 

And the median salary for physicians in the US is way over $200K and the average is over $300K 

 

 

[candide]

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Sounds like these doctors are worried about their customer base shrinking. 

 

They can make much more money from disease treatments than from injecting vaccines. Actually vaccines are often injected by other people than doctors (nurses, pharmacists, etc....).

[Stiddle Mump]

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

It's a good bet that people going on about doctors being "overworked" never did 8-12 hours on a roof, in a ditch, stocking shelves, welding, wrenching of running screws on a line.

 

And the median salary for physicians in the US is way over $200K and the average is over $300K 

 

Plus perks. Plus bonuses for injecting people. Seems to me; they are underworked rather that the opposite.

[Yellowtail]

Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

Plus perks. Plus bonuses for injecting people. Seems to me; they are underworked rather that the opposite.

I do not think they get bonuses for pushing shots and what not (actually I think it's illegal) but it's not a bad gig. 

[Lacessit]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I am if I don't want to stroke out and end up in a vegetative coma for years. Can't get all the important heart and suchlike medications without a prescription from a Dr ( in NZ ). It's not like Thailand and over the counter.

 

My mother never went to see a Dr and used herbs etc till her foot went black and her leg had to be amputated due to out of control diabetes. It killed her too.

I'll use pharma thanks.

LOL. Before pharma people died at 40 or less. Only the rich lived long.

 

Here you go

 

https://sc.edu/uofsc/posts/2022/08/conversation-old-age-is-not-a-modern-phenomenon.php

In medieval England, life expectancy at birth for boys born to families that owned land was a mere 31.3 years

Er - I think you have difficulty recognizing sarcasm.

[candide]

5 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The shame of it is, he's actually got some decent ideas. Get GMO's, poisonous dyes, and fructose/sucrose out of the foods. He just has too many nutty, unsubstantiated conspiracy beliefs that he wants to put in place.

 

Just like satan, he mixes truth in with the lies.

He's right about that part (food).

Let's see how the agro lobby, which generally supports the GOP, in particular in red States, will react to attempts at imposing new regulations on them, i.e. banning the use of cheap insecticides and fertilisers.

Same for the food industry lobby.

Not to mention the fact that it can lead to increased food price as it's usually more costly to produce healthy food.

[Hummin]

5 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

I don't think anyone is forced to go and see a doctor. You're free to self-treat a disease as long as you're isolated from others should you have an infectious disease, so nobody else suffers from your beliefs.

 

I am confident though that all in your homes, there would not be a sign of a medicine or food supplement, instead you'd be keeping lots of dried herbs, as the nature has all the answers. And before invent of medicines and treatments people lived healthy for 100s of years, it's just when all this medicine arrived, the life spans started to shrink tremendously. Surely average lifespan in 1800 was 250 years?

 

And all those manipulated drugs both herbs and chemically made, as well cheap crap beers they consume. 

 

Most "chemtrail" boys and girls I know consume large quantities of all kinds of drugs they have no idea where originated from. 

[johnnybangkok]

46 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

It's a good bet that people going on about doctors being "overworked" never did 8-12 hours on a roof, in a ditch, stocking shelves, welding, wrenching of running screws on a line.

 

And the median salary for physicians in the US is way over $200K and the average is over $300K 

 

 

And those that do '8-12 hours on a roof, in a ditch, stocking shelves, welding, wrenching of running screws on a line' seldom have life or death decisions to make. And they also didn't have to devote around 10 to 12 years to become welder, roofer, shelf stocker or line worker as a doctor does. A doctor has to an undergraduate degree (four years), medical school (four years), and a residency program (three to seven years). 

 

So perhaps get that chip off your shoulder and understand there are different versions of being 'overworked' that aren't just the exclusive domain of manual labourers.

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

And those that do '8-12 hours on a roof, in a ditch, stocking shelves, welding, wrenching of running screws on a line' seldom have life or death decisions to make. And they also didn't have to devote around 10 to 12 years to become welder, roofer, shelf stocker or line worker as a doctor does. A doctor has to an undergraduate degree (four years), medical school (four years), and a residency program (three to seven years). 

 

The biggest difference is they get to go home and forget about the job until the next morning. 

 

I understand the education requirement, but the compensation covers that pretty well, and the residency is a paid position.

 

It think it's safe to say that the percentage of MDs that are making "life or death decisions" with any regularity is pretty small. Certainly smaller than the average taxi driver. 

 

2 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

 

So perhaps get that chip off your shoulder and understand there are different versions of being 'overworked' that aren't just the exclusive domain of manual labourers.

 

I don't think I have a chip on my shoulder, and know the toll that stress takes on one. I never worked as hard on the floor as I did in management, but the idea that a great percentage of doctors is overworked.  

 

To be clear, I have the greatest respect for doctors and have had my life saved several times.  

[Yellowtail]

25 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

And those that do '8-12 hours on a roof, in a ditch, stocking shelves, welding, wrenching of running screws on a line' seldom have life or death decisions to make. And they also didn't have to devote around 10 to 12 years to become welder, roofer, shelf stocker or line worker as a doctor does. A doctor has to an undergraduate degree (four years), medical school (four years), and a residency program (three to seven years). 

 

So perhaps get that chip off your shoulder and understand there are different versions of being 'overworked' that aren't just the exclusive domain of manual labourers.

And when I said: "It's a good bet that people going on about doctors being "overworked" never did 8-12 hours on a roof, in a ditch, stocking shelves, welding, wrenching of running screws on a line.", I was talking about the people here that were going on about doctors being overworked, not the doctors.   

[spidermike007]

He's hugely unqualified, he's at least partially insane and he's probably the last guy that should be given the job. It's likely that the only two reasons he's being offered a prominent position is his backing of Big Don during the campaign, and his anti-vax stance. 

[xylophone]

2 hours ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

All the more reason to get him confirmed ASAP.  That's less than 2% and they're the ones who are probably making bank from all the lies about the food, additives, medicines and, yes, even vaccinations, especially the mRNA type.

"All the more reason to get him confirmed ASAP".

 

Let me change that for you:- All the more reason to get him confined ASAP.

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, xylophone said:

"All the more reason to get him confirmed ASAP".

 

Let me change that for you:- All the more reason to get him confined ASAP.

More law-fare, perfect 

[Yagoda]

6 hours ago, cdemundo said:

"a radical Socialist organization that hates the USA and promotes censorship, genital mutilation of children, adoption of children by Homosexuals, terrorism, Hamas, socialized medicine, Orwellian vaccine mandates and DEI. "

 

One great thing about having this discussion online is not getting hit by the spittle spray when certain types spew statements like this.

Did I make an error in my description?

[0ffshore360]

6 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Another great thing about it is that you can just attack the person making the claim (which any moron can do effortlessly) and not have to attack the claim, which takes a bit of effort. 

 

 

Assuming that the person making the claim (which any moron can do effortlessly) ?

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

And those that do '8-12 hours on a roof, in a ditch, stocking shelves, welding, wrenching of running screws on a line' seldom have life or death decisions to make. And they also didn't have to devote around 10 to 12 years to become welder, roofer, shelf stocker or line worker as a doctor does. A doctor has to an undergraduate degree (four years), medical school (four years), and a residency program (three to seven years). 

 

So perhaps get that chip off your shoulder and understand there are different versions of being 'overworked' that aren't just the exclusive domain of manual labourers.

Residency is probably the worst, from what I have heard the hours are brutal.

 

Welders and roof tilers don't have the risk of being assaulted or killed by an aggrieved or mentally disturbed patient either.

[frank83628]

Everyone desperately squirming trying to stop trump upturning the corrupt Apple cart.

[tomazbodner]

5 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Different to my research.

I found a photo of your research.

 

[Stiddle Mump]

3 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Residency is probably the worst, from what I have heard the hours are brutal.

 

Welders and roof tilers don't have the risk of being assaulted or killed by an aggrieved or mentally disturbed patient either.

Accidents on building sites are common.

[RocketDog]

22 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

So 15,000 out of over a million. 

 

I wonder if the "doctors" are actually physicians or PhDs in gender studies or some such. 

 

Did Dr. Jill sign the letter? 

 

Not a fan of RFKJ, but the more the left attacks him. the more attractive he becomes to me. 

The enemy of my enemy stategy huh?

Tried and true approach for those incapable of critical thinking.

 

Is this not the 'follow the herd mentality' so soundly criticized by maga types?

 

Asking for a friend.

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, RocketDog said:

The enemy of my enemy stategy huh?

Tried and true approach for those incapable of critical thinking.

 

Is this not the 'follow the herd mentality' so soundly criticized by maga types?

 

Asking for a friend.

It is an enemy of my enemy strategy in that the people that oppose him clearly want something different for American healthcare than I do.   

 

Why do you think he is unqualified? I have not heard (herd?) a decent argument from anyone honestly stating a position of his they are opposed to.

 

I'm not a fan of RFKJ, and I could be easily convinced to oppose him, but that lying about him being an anti-vaxer or calling him a junky or a mental case aren't going to do it. Given the number of drug overdoses in the US, a drug addict might have some better ideas than giving out needles and blankets.  

 

I have listened to him interviewed for a few hours, and while he would not have been my first pick, right or wrong, I believe improving the health of the American people would be his first priority. 

 

Why are you opposed to him Mr. Freethinker?