Belgian man scammed out of 8 million baht by female Thai soldier

[LukKrueng]

And that's why one should ALWAYS complete the transaction in person at the land office, both when buying and selling.

[ronster]

What have you done Ronald 😲 

Oh dear !!!

[Justanotherone]

how do you sell anything without being present at the land department, that will ask their share to be paid, up to 8.8% in taxes and others ???

 

if I lose my chanote, I go to the land department and ask a new 'orignal' copy, as the ORIGINAL stays at the land department

 

this story smells...

[ElwoodP]

Please call politicians by their correct names, or your post (and maybe your posting ability) will be removed.

@Kinok Farang

[nightfox]

If I was this guy, I wouldn't show my face on national TV out of embarrassment. 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, J Branche said:

A number of things raise suspicion in this story.

 

Real Estate is sold and transferred in Thailand.  

It can be completed in days start to finish.

 

Why was buyer delayed in completing sale?

 

He could requested Proof of Funds from buyer.  It would show the buyer had the money available or a loan approved waiting for transfer when Chanote transfer docs are completed and fees paid.

 

Did the guy ask for any contact info of the buyer?

 

Did he Line, WhatsApp video chat with them?

 

I am just providing tips for others to use to reduce these scammers and educate on options available.

 

The man potentially lost 6.4 million baht, not 8 million.  What have the recently sold similar condos sold for (Fair Market Value?) Averaged.

 

 

The only foreign guy in Thailand that doesn't understand you do property sales with cash at the Landline Office!

[smew]

Naive and gullible with some greed included.

[Jim Blue]

Wonder if she holds  tuition classes  so I can send the wife ?

[baansgr]

4 hours ago, hellohello123 said:

Sounds pretty sophisticated, assuming she had  real estate emails, forged credentials etc.

Sympathy for the guy

Som@gmail

[Tailwagsdog]

It's not all bad, just think of the money $$$ he saved in Legal Fees by NOT using a solicitor.

😂🤣😭😂🤣

[thesetat]

6 hours ago, Classic Ray said:

Forgery of the 2 million baht document is a criminal offence. Also obtaining the property by deception is also criminal rather than civil.

actually it is both... criminal and civil.

[Jack Hammer]

3 hours ago, Tarteso said:

 

She has “I come from Buriram “ written all over her face.  

[SiSePuede419]

Pattaya sounds great. 😄

[Briggsy]

11 minutes ago, Jack Hammer said:

She has “I come from Buriram “ written all over her face.  

That is a different one, not the Buri Ram scammer.

[SanSaiExPat]

7 hours ago, Delta Shift said:

That's why I'll never invest a cent in this country.

No rule of law.

One day you have rights and the next you don't.

He should hire some Wagner PMC guys to sort it out russian style 😄

Your absolutely correct.  You have rights or the illusion of rights until there is a problem.  I speak from experience.  In Thailand, "Let the buyer and seller beware."

[newnative]

        A good example of why I've recommended using reputable real estate lawyers to work with you when buying or selling property here.  Make sure they provide you with a photocopy of their lawyer's license and current, not expired, certificate.  They will review the contract and any other paperwork to make sure your interests are protected and the contract has everything in it that you want, and nothing in it that you don't want.  Review the finalized contract carefully and make sure you understand and are ok with all the clauses before signing.

       At the contract signing your lawyer will make sure, as the seller, that you receive the agreed upon non-refundable down payment by cashier's check in your name, which, depending on the contract, either you or your lawyer will hold until closing.  On the closing date, which they have scheduled in advance, they will deal with the Land Office staff, review all the documents, explain what you are signing, deal with the tax and other closing cost payments, insure that you receive your closing paperwork, and, finally, they will only give the Chanote to the buyer when you, as the seller, have received in your hand the final payment due by cashier's check in your name.   If you are buying, you should also have your own lawyer to protect your interests in the same way, especially if you are new to the whole buying/selling process, which can and usually does move much faster here than property transactions in places like the US or the UK.

[Jorn T]

Scamming is not new in Thailand, I lost 9 Million Baht there, to a Farang,Thai couple in Chiangmai and a business crook in Bangkok without going into details. 

[theblether]

The last woman I know of who pulled a scam like this is serving 12 years in a CM prison. In her case she ran afoul of an influential Thai. 

 

If this guys new wife really is a police officer with decent connections, this won't turn out the way some of you are predicting. 

[kevozman1]

I often wonder if these characters are just actors or guys coming over to SEA after getting an inheritance. They seem casual in throwing such large sums of money around. You need to be part of a multi-national or play golf with established business people in Thailand to put any money up or do any substantial deals. The only country in SEA I would consider buying anything bigger than a second hand motorbike or car is Singapore.. maybe Malaysia but even then probably not.

 

He could have bought a little apartment in Brussels with that 8 million baht and have around €1k  going until his account every month. And most importantly it's safe and trustworthy way of investing money. 

[LukKrueng]

14 hours ago, BritManToo said:

The only foreign guy in Thailand that doesn't understand you do property sales with cash at the Landline Office!

Sold a unit few months ago. 3 transactions were made - 2 as deposit, 1 upon agreeing on the price, 1 about a month later, and the 3rd on the day of the transfer. All transactions made from Bank to bank. Never saw cash or draft

[AhFarangJa]

18 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

So you believe the relatives of the alleged fraudster? Might want to rethink that

To be honest I am at a loss as to what to think.

[mikebell]

22 hours ago, webfact said:

boasting of her connections with influential police officers in Pattaya.

Is there smoke without fire?

[bristolgeoff]

Anything to do with property you must check everything in thailand even more so.never sign anything unless u see the money in the acc.The thai wife should have known to check too,but it will happen again to someone else 

 

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

Why would anyone buy property in TH?

 

You have no rights.

 

Better to rent.

 

Better to invest in Belgium as a previous poster said or someplace like Canada or Aus where real estate can only go to the moon and you have full legal protection.

[Rickman66]

On 1/14/2025 at 3:45 PM, 1happykamper said:

So she is guilt but has connections so she's laughing at justice. Just another day in paradise. Put this trash in prison for 10 years 

Yes another "big boss"

[Des1]

On 1/14/2025 at 1:56 PM, MikeandDow said:

A fool and his money are soon parted !!

Yup. I want to have some sympathy for this guy but just can't manage it.

[MikeandDow]

4 hours ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

Why would anyone buy property in TH?

 

You have no rights.

 

Better to rent.

 

Better to invest in Belgium as a previous poster said or someplace like Canada or Aus where real estate can only go to the moon and you have full legal protection.

And why do you say that ,you do have right to your property !! do not know about Belgium, but the cost of Canada or Aus are unbelivable no thanks!!

[UbonEagle]

I do recall the Mrs selling a house in regional City and she was very particular about the original land title deed (or whatever it's called here) - I thought she was being a bit paranoid but she would not hand it over until she had full confirmation the money was in her bank account - in fact I think they all went to the bank together...

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

19 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

And why do you say that ,you do have right to your property !! do not know about Belgium, but the cost of Canada or Aus are unbelivable no thanks!!

As a foreigner in Thailand, you are at the  mercy of the constantly changing Thai laws and the baked-in discrimination against the so called falangs.

 

So, in effect, you have no rights - no real rights, in the end - as enjoyed in places like the US, Canada, UK, etc.

 

You can't own land. You can only lease a structure. Anything can be taken from you at any moment, on a whim, depending on how the breeze is blowing that day in the government halls.

 

Condo "ownership" is only available based on the percentage of Thai owners in a building.

 

Far better to rent in Thailand.

 

The reason property costs so much in US, Canada, UK, Aus, NZ is because all those countries are top tier alpha A++ countries. Oh - and also because of unfettered money laundering since at least year 2000 from China, Russia, etc.

 

Why launder billions of cash into real estate in US, Canada, UK, Aus, NZ?

 

Because those countries are top tier alpha A++ countries with a high standard of living and protections of the law  (unlike China, Russia, Vietnam, Thailand etc......). And real estate in those countries only becomes more valuable, unlike in Thailand.

 

Cheers boss

[MikeandDow]

1 minute ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

As a foreigner in Thailand, you are at the  mercy of the constantly changing Thai laws and the baked-in discrimination against the so called falangs.

 

So, in effect, you have no rights - no real rights, in the end - as enjoyed in places like the US, Canada, UK, etc.

 

You can't own land. You can only lease a structure. Anything can be taken from you at any moment, on a whim, depending on how the breeze is blowing that day in the government halls.

 

Condo "ownership" is only available based on the percentage of Thai owners in a building.

 

Far better to rent in Thailand.

 

The reason property costs so much in US, Canada, UK, Aus, NZ is because all those countries are top tier alpha A++ countries. Oh - and also because of unfettered money laundering since at least year 2000 from China, Russia, etc.

 

Why launder billions of cash into real estate in US, Canada, UK, Aus, NZ?

 

Because those countries are top tier alpha A++ countries with a high standard of living and protections of the law  (unlike China, Russia, Vietnam, Thailand etc......). And real estate in those countries only becomes more valuable, unlike in Thailand.

 

Cheers boss

If you do not like here GO!!!    I own my home Have Thai paper work to prove it !! as for Land not intrested the wife looks after that !! as for constantly changing Thai laws, been here for over 20 yrs nothing has change, still the same so dont know where you get that,

from!!!

you have a bitter view of Thailand, !! you are in a 3rd world country everthing is Not perfect !!  lived in OZ for 30 yrs Now that place has changed spirling costs out of control ! standard of living is relevent. I have a higher standard living here that i would in OZ