4 hours ago, treetops said:

I'm lucky enough to be able to do mine online, but many renters using agents, or with absent or uncooperative landlords, can have difficulty getting it done at all.

Exactly. I have the landlord/agent's login and password, so I can do it mself, but it is then sent to the landlord's email and I need to get her to send it to me within the short window before it disappears..

I thought some time back some posters said domestic nights away did not require a new TM30 once back home..

24 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

Exactly. I have the landlord/agent's login and password, so I can do it mself, but it is then sent to the landlord's email and I need to get her to send it to me within the short window before it disappears..

I thought some time back some posters said domestic nights away did not require a new TM30 once back home..

Ummm, that's not how TM30 works.

You submit it. You go back into the system and search for what you just submitted. Then you click "export" from that and you get the PDF. There's no e-mail. You can do it all yourself if you have the login.

Do note you can only "search" for a submission within 7 days after it was submitted. After that you have no way to get proof besides submitting a new one.

9 hours ago, BrandonJT said:

Ummm, that's not how TM30 works.

You submit it. You go back into the system and search for what you just submitted. Then you click "export" from that and you get the PDF. There's no e-mail. You can do it all yourself if you have the login.

Do note you can only "search" for a submission within 7 days after it was submitted. After that you have no way to get proof besides submitting a new one.

Thanks didn't know that. What do you use as a search reference? Name, street address?

Also, regarding my initial Q - does one need to submit a TM30 after a couple of nights away within Thailand?

10 hours ago, BenCrew said:

It's not a problem as long as you have a copy of the landlord's Thai ID and Tabian Baan.

That's exactly what I have done, but some landlords are not as helpful. Those using agents may not even know who their landlord is or how to contact them.

10 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

I thought some time back some posters said domestic nights away did not require a new TM30 once back home.

The rules say no new TM30 is required in these situations but some immigration offices say differently.

14 hours ago, treetops said:

I'm lucky enough to be able to do mine online, but many renters using agents, or with absent or uncooperative landlords, can have difficulty getting it done at all.

True, that's why it's important to discuss this with the landlord or agent BEFORE moving in. No TM30 arrangements made, no money forked over.

1 hour ago, ronnie50 said:

Also, regarding my initial Q - does one need to submit a TM30 after a couple of nights away within Thailand?

Your question was answered already.

ASK YOUR IMMIGRATION OFFICE. Each office has their own policy. They change this policy periodically. Only YOUR immigration can answer this question.

11 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

I thought some time back some posters said domestic nights away did not require a new TM30 once back home..

Copy and paste of the New TM30 reporting regulations dated June 5th 2020.

Regulation of Royal Thai Police

on notification of a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager, who takes in, as a resident, an alien permitted to temporary stay in the Kingdom.

It is deemed expedient to amend the regulation of Royal Thai Police on notification of a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager, who takes in, as a resident, an alien permitted to temporary stay in the Kingdom dated May 25, 1979 (B.E. 2522) in order to conform with the directions of national development and strategies for transforming government sector to digital government as well as to facilitate aliens staying in Thailand under the maintenance of national security standards.

By virtue of Section 38, Paragraph 3 of the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (A.D. 1979) the Commissioner General of Royal Thai Police herby issues the regulation prescribing notification of a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager, who takes in, as a resident, an alien permitted to temporary stay in the Kingdom as follows:

1. Repeal the regulation of Royal Thai Police on notification of a householder, owner or possessor of a dwelling place or hotel manager, who takes in, as a resident, an alien permitted to temporary stay in the Kingdom dated May 25, 1979 (B.E. 2522);

2. Notification of a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager, who takes in, as a resident, an alien permitted to temporary stay in the Kingdom must proceed as follows;

2.1 Notify a competent official at an Immigration office located in a locality in which the house, dwelling place or hotel is located within twenty four hours from the time an alien has taken residence. In case that house, dwelling place or hotel, where an alien has stayed, is located in Bangkok Metropolis locality, such notification shall be made to a competent official at Immigration Division 1 of Immigration Bureau.

2.2 After a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager already made a notification according to 2.1, then the alien goes to occasionally stay somewhere else and return to stay at the original place within the notified period of stay that has not yet ended, such householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager is not required to make a notification again.

The alien mentioned in paragraph 1 shall include any alien receiving a multiply entry visa who departs the Kingdom and returns within the validity of visa and any alien permitted to re-enter into the Kingdom with a valid re-entry permit.

3. Subject to the article 2, a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager may make notification in person or assign others to submit a letter of notification or send it by registered mail or via the electronic notification system of Immigration Bureau.

4. Notification of receiving an alien to stay as a resident according to the article 3, shall be in accordance with the criteria, conditions and supporting documents as prescribed by Immigration Bureau.

5. A competent official who receives a notification shall issue an evidence of notification for those who notified.

6. The notification form attached to this regulation shall be used in case of making a notification in person or assigning others to submit a letter of notification or sending it by registered mail. An evidence of notification and receiving a notification via the electronic system shall be in accordance with the form prescribed by Immigration Bureau.

This regulation is effective from June 30, 2020 onwards.

Issued on June5, 2020

Police General Chakthip Chaijinda

Commissioner General of Royal Thai Police
.................................................................................................

You need to confirm whether your Immigration office follow this regulation or not.

11 hours ago, Liquorice said:

2.2 After a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager already made a notification according to 2.1, then the alien goes to occasionally stay somewhere else and return to stay at the original place within the notified period of stay that has not yet ended, such householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager is not required to make a notification again.

Thanks. So given that, it's always a good idea for your landlord to enter the lease's ending date, which I think says, or is deemed, (optional). Mine does. If there is no end date on the TM30 where you reside, I can see an IO claiming a new TM30 must be submitted when you return to take up/continue residency in teh condo/house/apartment.

I'm sure most of us have an M.O that works for us.

I only need immigration for annual extension.

Travel regularly both in and out of Thailand.

Each year just prior to extension I obtain a TM30 from my apartment office.

Never bother with TM30 after trips abroad and trips in Thailand.

Works for me at CW.

2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Never bother with TM30 after trips abroad and trips in Thailand.

Right. In my experience, about a year ago, I went to get a Certificate of Residence for something. A sharp-eyed youngish IO noted that my passport arrival date was one day different to the arrival date at my residence on the TM30. Fortunately, she didn't make a big deal out of it, and just asked where I'd been that first day. She asked me if it was a hotel? And I said yes..though I didn't stay in a hotel, I was just a bit late in submitting the TM30.

As the TDAC's are still relatively new, I wonder if IMM is comparing them with the dates on the TM30. Are they both required now when applying for the visa extension?

2 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

Right. In my experience, about a year ago, I went to get a Certificate of Residence for something.

Indeed.

I'm perhaps being bit smug.

Not long ago renewed my 5 yr TDL and also renewed 10 yr pp.

Can't imagine a reason to visit CW for service such as COR.

As for TM47, I do that via mail and the couple of times I have done it in person TM30 was not required.

2 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

If there is no end date on the TM30 where you reside, I can see an IO claiming a new TM30 must be submitted when you return to take up/continue residency in teh condo/house/apartment.

On the contrary, if you have no lease, or end date on a lease, then until such time as you file a new TM30 it should be assumed you are still residing at the reported address.

16 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

Thanks didn't know that. What do you use as a search reference? Name, street address?

Also, regarding my initial Q - does one need to submit a TM30 after a couple of nights away within Thailand?

JUST the dates checked in
say March 8- march 14th
ONLY a 7 day window

Steps for searching and verifying notification of foreigner accommodation
After notifying the foreigner's accommodation information Whether it is individual notification through the system Or import data from Excel into the Notifications of residence of foreigners for business system. You will be able to check notification information. GO to the screen Inform Accommodation> Search, Then proceed as follows:
1. Login to the sysetm. Select Address. Select the accommodation information you want to notify to accept foreigners. In cases where there is a lot of accommodation information, you can search by typing in the name of the desired accommodation to select. (If there is no accommodation information list Go back and add information first by looking at the steps, Adding accommodation information.)
2. Fill in the date of accepting the foreigner to stay who you want to search or fill in other conditions, such as the name of the alien. ( ONLY dates is enough)
3. Click button Search.
4. Click the icon view to view notification details.