Trump’s Jan. 6 Pardons Slammed as a 'Grotesque Display' of Power by Schiff

[Ben Zioner]

3 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Schiff is bloody idiot.  No on cares what he thinks. 

The same apply to you, as you are representative of a tidal wave of extremist idiocy.

[retayl]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Give it a rest. A few blokes in fancy dress protesting. The sentences were well over the top.

 

It's not like they were gun toting, coke snorting, hooker using degenerates like the son "good ol' Joe" pardoned.

 

The Libs need to get over it. Trump is in power now, and he isn't messing around this time. 

Us coke snorting, hooker using degenerates take great exception to being compared with those redneck retards.

[Smokey and the Bandit]

45 minutes ago, atpeace said:

OK - up to you.  I think it entertaining and easy to get over for me.  Not overly concerned about your mental health but you need to take a break from AN if you want to make it to the next election in 4 years.

 

 Your hatred is disgusting if taken seriously which sane people do not. Hope you stick around to remind us all how crazy the last 4 years were with "FAR" left zealots seemingly controlling the democratic party and losing support of people like me.

Absolutely, it seems <removed> is real and also has side effects! Its very sad!

[dinsdale]

27 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I've never encountered a group of people who are so proud to be ignorant and so determined to stay that way and not to get the other half of any issue.

And I'm not using "ignorant" as a pejorative.  By definition, ignorant means I don't know.  I can correct that.   But only if I am willing.

 

Keeping people ignorant is what the legacy media/MSM is all about. Compliant to the narrative.

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, retayl said:

Us coke snorting, hooker using degenerates take great exception to being compared with those redneck retards.

 

Delusions of grandeur and hypocrisy is common amongst leftists.

 

There's really no need to draw attention to it.  

[JonnyF]

Just now, dinsdale said:

Keeping people ignorant is what the legacy media/MSM is all about. Compliant to the narrative.

 

That's why they hate X and Musk so much. 

 

They can't control the narrative. 

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

Someone told me them guys was crisis actors buddy, don't sweat it buddy.

 

Cheers

Somebody told me I could trust a used car dealer, I didn't believe them either.

[retayl]

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

That's why they hate X and Musk so much. 

 

They can't control the narrative. 

Yep! Those right wing press barons like Murdoch & Rothermere are pretty pissed off.

[WorriedNoodle]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

It's not like they were gun toting, coke snorting

What are you snorting? While the rioters didn't directly kill anyone with their guns, they did use them in a threatening manner, which contributed to the chaos and violence of the attack.

 

Some rioters openly carried rifles and handguns, displaying them in an intimidating manner and causing fear among the Capitol Police and members of Congress.  Several rioters who were later arrested were found to be carrying concealed weapons, including handguns and zip ties, which led to fears that they were planning to take hostages or engage in violence.

[spidermike007]

A few weeks ago, Vice President JD Vance said on Fox News that rioters who had assaulted the police would most likely not get pardons.

 

“If you committed violence on that day, obviously you shouldn’t be pardoned,” Mr. Vance said, but added that “there’s a little bit of a gray area there.”

 

Mr. Vance’s comments elicited almost immediate outrage among many of the rioters.

 

“J6 defendants are very angry at JD Vance,” Philip Anderson, who was accused of taking part in a violent scrum in a tunnel outside the Capitol, wrote on social media. “All J6 defendants need to be saved.”

 

Mr. Vance quickly tried to walk back his remarks.

 

“I assure you, we care about people unjustly locked up,” he wrote on X. “Yes, that includes people provoked and it includes people who got a garbage trial.”

[spidermike007]

Trump has spent 4 years trying to change the narrative and frame the rioters as patriots. After the findings of the Jan. 6 committee, he began referring to the rioters as “political prisoners” persecuted by Democrats and openly suggesting that the F.B.I. had helped stage the attack. By the time his presidential campaign was in full swing last year, he had completely transformed the day’s monstrous bloody fury into what he called a “day of love” and insisted falsely that none of his supporters had brought guns to the Capitol.

Fanone, a former police officer attacked by the crowd on Jan. 6, told The Times. “And who is to say he wouldn’t?”

 

For many of the officers who were pepper-sprayed or hit with two-by-fours or beaten that day, the thought that the nation’s chief executive would forgive such actions is despicable. “Releasing those who assaulted us from blame would be a desecration of justice,” Aquilino Gonell, a former Capitol Police sergeant who suffered lasting injuries in the riot, wrote in a Times Opinion guest essay this month. “If Mr. Trump wants to heal our divided nation, he’ll let their convictions stand.”

 

Pretty sickening.  But, to be expected from a morally bankrupt goombah.

[Hamus Yaigh]

3 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Then we have the Biden crime family getting pardons.  

The old "two wrongs make it right" chestnut?

 

[Yagoda]

Btw, just so non Americans know, the fact that the Burdick rule mandates that acceptance of a pardon be deemed a "confession" of guilt was the position of the Biden justice Department.

 

Because the socialist screechers will spittlefroth link LINK LINK, here ya go

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.24

 

Here is the applicable language:

 

"And, even if the defendant were to receive a pardon at some unspecified date in the future—which is purely speculative at this juncture—that pardon would not unring the bell of conviction. In fact, quite the opposite. The defendant would first have to accept the pardon, which necessitates a confession of guilt. See Burdick v. United States, 236 U.S. 79, 94, (1915) (“[A pardon] carries an imputation of guilt; acceptance a confession of it.”). And a pardon “does not erase a judgement of conviction, or its underlying legal and factual findings.” See United States v. Crowell, 374 F.3d 790, 704 (9th Cir. 2004); see also In re North, 62 F.3d 1434, 1437 (D.C. Cir. 1994) (noting that “a pardon does not blot out guilt or expunge a judgment of conviction”); United States v. Noonan, 906 F.2d 952, 955 (3d Cir. 1990) (“The power to pardon is an executive prerogative of mercy, not of judicial recordkeeping.”). "

 

Again, this is the position of the Biden justice Department. Accordingly, Schiff, Cheney, Fauci et al are all confessed criminals.

[Ben Zioner]

2 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

The old "two wrongs make it right" chestnut?

 

Thought it was "two Wongs don't make a white" ?

[connda]

Trump’s Jan. 6 Pardons Slammed as a 'Grotesque Display' of Power by Schiff

 

From the guy who received a preemptive pardon from Biden.  Yeah - tell us all about "a 'Grotesque Display' of Power."

[retayl]

I JUST GOT A PARDON BABY!” Jacob Chansely, better known as the QAnon Shaman, posted on X Monday night. “NOW I AM GONNA BUY SOME MOTHA FU*KIN GUNS!!!”

 

This is what Trump has unleashed on the American people. Good luck with that one!

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, retayl said:

I JUST GOT A PARDON BABY!” Jacob Chansely, better known as the QAnon Shaman, posted on X Monday night. “NOW I AM GONNA BUY SOME MOTHA FU*KIN GUNS!!!”

 

This is what Trump has unleashed on the American people. Good luck with that one!

You would deny him a constitutional right because you dont like what he says?

[Hamus Yaigh]

4 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Schiff is bloody idiot.  No on cares what he thinks. 

The old "ad hominem" attack. No one cares what you think perhaps worth considering likewise?

[Patong2021]

4 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Schiff is bloody idiot.  No on cares what he thinks. 

 

Because you cannot offer a reasonable justification for the pardoning of violent  insurrectionists who attacked peace officers, you attack a senator for expressing a sentiment shared by tens of millions of US citizens.

 

You may not care what the  senator "thinks", but his constituents do, since they elected him with a large majority multiple times. Sen. Schiff is a sincere believer in law and order and made his bones when he prosecuted the case against Richard Miller, a former FBI agent who spied for the Russians. Apparently, you also disrespect  those who defend the USA against enemy agents.

 

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

News flash - we don't care what you think either.

 

I care. 🖕

[atpeace]

It's fun witnessing the left and right come together 🙂  Brings tears to my eyes. 

 

I'm starting to believe in this mysterious group of elite that ultimately control us minnows.  I wonder if my minnow of a life would be better as a big fish.  Doubt it but it would be but interesting  to be part of the big fish group for a little while.

[retayl]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You would deny him a constitutional right because you dont like what he says?

I’m denying him nothing! Hope you feel so charitable if he uses one of those guns while he should have been incarcerated.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Twisting January 6 into a Pelosi conspiracy is a sign of tin hat delusion.

 

IIRC Pence asked Trump to call out the National Guard, Trump refused.

 

You need help.

 

You don't RC. Ask Steven Sund for a reminder.

[Patong2021]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You would deny him a constitutional right because you dont like what he says?

 

Yes, because the man is obviously mentally unstable. He  agreed to the diagnosis  too.

In an interview, defense lawyer Albert Watkins said that officials at the federal Bureau of Prisons, or BOP, have diagnosed his client Jacob Chansley with transient schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, depression and anxiety. He said Chansley's 2006 mental health records from his time in the U.S. Navy show a similar diagnosis to the BOP's 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-qanon-shaman-plea-negotiations-after-mental-health-diagnosis-lawyer-2021-07-23/

 

The ease with which a mentally ill  violent man can obtain a firearm sums up what is wrong with the USA and with many of the aprticipants in the Jan. 6 insurrection.

[Eric Loh]

12 minutes ago, connda said:

Trump’s Jan. 6 Pardons Slammed as a 'Grotesque Display' of Power by Schiff

 

From the guy who received a preemptive pardon from Biden.  Yeah - tell us all about "a 'Grotesque Display' of Power."

We now have a lawless dictatorial President that has vowed retribution. Biden see it wise to protect him and others from Trump’s grotesque threats. 

[atpeace]

14 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

The old "ad hominem" attack. No one cares what you think perhaps worth considering likewise?

As you go on to do the same.  Bet it felt good to use "ad hominem" in your reply. 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

You make a claim. You are supposed to back it up. Don't tell me to go looking on conspiracy websites for it.

You said there is a video where she confesses to it. Post it. Simple. One little link would shut down the argument, no?

 

Here you go lazy boy:

 

 

[flexomike]

3 hours ago, Lacessit said:

News flash - we don't care what you think either.

who is we?, what you think is, Trump is going to make my head implode, 

[Yagoda]

15 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Yes, because the man is obviously mentally unstable. He  agreed to the diagnosis  too.

In an interview, defense lawyer Albert Watkins said that officials at the federal Bureau of Prisons, or BOP, have diagnosed his client Jacob Chansley with transient schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, depression and anxiety. He said Chansley's 2006 mental health records from his time in the U.S. Navy show a similar diagnosis to the BOP's 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-qanon-shaman-plea-negotiations-after-mental-health-diagnosis-lawyer-2021-07-23/

 

The ease with which a mentally ill  violent man can obtain a firearm sums up what is wrong with the USA and with many of the aprticipants in the Jan. 6 insurrection.

So its other than what he says. Good. And how do you know he will be able to get a firearm? Are there background checks? Have you ever purchased a firearm in the USA? 

 

 

[Yagoda]

20 minutes ago, retayl said:

I’m denying him nothing! Hope you feel so charitable if he uses one of those guns while he should have been incarcerated.

So you would deny him a firearm because of his politics?