UK Population Set to Surge to 72.5 Million by 2032, Driven by Migration

[Tidal wave]

Rachel Thieves and Sir Multi Tier Keir are busy freezing pensioners to make room for our cultural enrichers 🤔

 

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Young people in the UK can't afford to start a family. They can barely afford somewhere to live, assuming there is a house available to rent that hasn't been used by the state to house immigrants. 

Yes it’s true that young people face huge financial difficulties.

 

That’s down to the massive shift in wealth distribution since the early 80s, precisely the time when building public housing was wound back and the housing stock that existed sold off.

 

Scapegoating immigrants makes a useful distraction from the actual causes.

[spidermike007]

Something must be done to keep out the extremist super freaks. Their religion may work for them in Saudi, Kuwait, Yemen, Sudan or Somalia. That same ultra conservative fanatislcism, is not wanted, needed, nor desirable in Western nations. Only moderates need apply should be the policy. And there should be a standard of willingness to assimilate, and the burden should be on the family to prove the burden is met.

 

I believe immigration policy should be reformed to the point where it should be staged, and all Muslim families should show a willingness to assimilate. I also believe that families with Muslim daughters who are teenagers can start by proving that they have participated in a bikini contest, and for teenage boys they must show a burden of proof that they're not affiliated with any of the local madrasas. 

 

Huge and very strict restrictions should be put on their ability to immigrate, essentially they are not wanted and they are not needed, and for the most part they are not of any benefit to a society that let them in, as it is very unlikely they will ever integrate. 

 

Why am I anti Wahhabi? Why do I think all Saudis should be barred worldwide from immigrating to any nation? Why do I consider the Saudis so dangerous to mankind? 

 

But it is an ideology that divides the world into the realm of Islam and the realm of the infidel, or the realm of war. So it trains the readers that they live behind enemy lines – they must be passing through, they cannot take abode here. You only have two reasons for being in the land of the infidel. One is to convert people to Islam. The second is to acquire either money or skill which you can bring back with you to help you and others engage in jihad, and in this context, it is quite clear that they mean that in a military sense, because they go on to talk about tanks and bullets, and things of this kind. One of the things you certainly cannot do is become an American citizen, because no Muslim can be ruled an infidel.

 

That is the particular ideology which is being taught. You must not have any good contacts, warm relations with anybody – not only with unbelievers, but with any Muslim who is not of the Wahhabi type; they are also often denounced as apostates. That is the major theme of concern in that report.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2005/05/03/the-global-spread-of-wahhabi-islam-how-great-a-threat/

 

Are we serious about keeping our nation's safe from extremists, or not? 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

How about not waiting at all because the waiting room isn't full of immigrants (and their translators) who never paid into the system in the first place?

But it’s not Jonny.

 

I spent much of the past three years in and out of NHS hospitals and clinics, none where ‘full of immigrants’.

The foreign doctors, nurses and professional staff I spoke with all had excellent English.

 

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yes it’s true that young people face huge financial difficulties.

 

That’s down to the massive shift in wealth distribution since the early 80s, precisely the time when building public housing was wound back and the housing stock that existed sold off.

 

Scapegoating immigrants makes a useful distraction from the actual causes.

 

I never had problems buying my first house in the 90's.

 

Cost me 70k. Flats were available for 40k. 

 

But then, there wasn't a massive housing shortage and I wasn't paying obscene amounts of tax. 

 

I feel sorry for my nieces having to grow up in modern Britain. At least they didn't grow up in Rochdale. 

[JonnyF]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

But it’s not Jonny.

 

I spent much of the past three years in and out of NHS hospitals and clinics, none where ‘full of immigrants’.

The foreign doctors, nurses and professional staff I spoke with all had excellent English.

 

 

Anecdotal, even if true.

 

Here is the reality.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/07/tenfold-rise-in-ae-patients-waiting-more-than-a-day-for-a-hospital-bed-since-2019

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

21 out of 22 of the nationalities on this planet with the highest population growths are Muslim. Does anyone see a critical issue with that? 

Not at all.

 

The problem is nations with fertility rates below 2.1, the point below which the population shrinks.

 

The UK is currently you at 1.49, down from 1.55 in 2021.

If I was planning life on the income from a UK state pension I’d be making new plans.

 

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Not at all.

 

The problem is nations with fertility rates below 2.1, the point below which the population shrinks.

 

The UK is currently you at 1.49, down from 1.55 in 2021.

If I was planning life on the income from a UK state pension I’d be making new plans.

 

 

So how about offering tax incentives for existing citizens to start a family?

 

Instead of importing people from the third world, many of whom have children that go on to commit atrocities like the child slaying son of Rwandans in Southport?

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

Anecdotal, even if true.

 

Here is the reality.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/07/tenfold-rise-in-ae-patients-waiting-more-than-a-day-for-a-hospital-bed-since-2019

 

 

Well that’s what happens after over a decade of underfunding.

 

Thankfully now under new management.

 

I’m sure you welcome the Government’s £billions of increased in spending on the NHS.

[JonnyF]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Well that’s what happens after over a decade of underfunding.

 

No, that's what happens when you increase the population at an unsustainable rate.

 

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

 

I’m sure you welcome the Government’s £billions of increased in spending on the NHS.

 

Throwing money at the NHS is not the answer. The Tories tried that. Starmer said no more cash without reform. Another one of his lies. 

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

So how about offering tax incentives for existing citizens to start a family?

 

Instead of importing people from the third world, many of whom have children that go on to commit atrocities like the child slaying son of Rwandans in Southport?

How about accepting replacing European migrants, many who where seasonal or short term migrants with immigrants from the third world was a mistake.

 

And yes I’m up for a bit of wealth redistribution through taxes but if the economy needs workers now, newborns aren’t going to be the fix.

[Rampant Rabbit]

"Caution Will Robinson"

Come on we know why Thai Visa is posting this  stuff

[impulse]

13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Scapegoating immigrants makes a useful distraction from the actual causes.

 

I'm guilty of the shorthand (laziness) where I leave off the word "unvetted" or "illegal" when discussing the immigration problem.

 

Immigration isn't the problem.  It's the way it's being done.  

 

[NorthernRyland]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

Well, this thread is going to trigger the old racist types.

And ironically many of the ones that who themselves decided to move and live in Thailand. 
Funny that.

What's funny about that? I only became a racist after moving to Thailand. 

 

The real funny thing is that people who are pro-immigration are also the ones who don't mix with immigrants unless it's getting cheap manual labor (remember "who's going to clean your toilet Mr. Trump?" by Kelly Osborne).

[sungod]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

The major reasons Britons give for moving abroad have nothing to do with immigration.

UK’s Potential Exodus: Over Half (52%) Of Brits Eye A Better Life Abroad

Over half of Brits (52%) have considered leaving the UK for better working opportunities abroad, according to new research from Gen Z insights company Prograd.

This sentiment was particularly strong for those working in healthcare (54%), educational professionals (52%), lawyers (69%) and financial services professionals (62%), many of which make up the UK’s key workers...

When asked about what they think the biggest financial barrier for young people in the UK is, 83% said the cost of living, 64% said housing affordability, 58% said low salaries and 41% said high taxes.

https://employernews.co.uk/news/uks-potential-exodus-over-half-54-of-brits-eye-a-better-life-abroad/

 

Was mass immigration listed as one of the questions for leaving?

[JonnyF]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

How about accepting replacing European migrants, many who where seasonal or short term migrants with immigrants from the third world was a mistake.

 

European migrants have just as much (in most cases more) rights and opportunity to come as those from the third world. 

 

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

 

And yes I’m up for a bit of wealth redistribution through taxes but if the economy needs workers now, newborns aren’t going to be the fix.

 

We don't need them. We have almost 1.5 million unemployed already. We dont need to add to that figure, either via Rachel from accounts budget for recession or uncontrolled immigration of unskilled workers from the third world.

 

[PomPolo]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

Well, this thread is going to trigger the old racist types.

And ironically many of the ones that who themselves decided to move and live in Thailand. 
Funny that.

And do Thailand help us out with social welfare, housing, medical or handouts?  Most migrants to Thailand are of benefit to the country.

We better start building new 5* hotels and housing for the UK influx of migrants (and their families) we wouldn't like them sleeping in the cold or anything.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, sungod said:

 

Was mass immigration listed as one of the questions for leaving?

Perhaps in the context of the survey the hypocrisy might have been clear.

[JonnyF]

5 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

The real funny thing is that people who are pro-immigration are also the ones who don't mix with immigrants unless it's getting cheap manual labor (remember "who's going to clean your toilet Mr. Trump?" by Kelly Osborne).

 

Or more recently the leftist nutter Bishop Mariann Budde preaching to Trump at the inauguration service.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2025/01/22/what-did-the-bishop-say-to-trump-during-prayer-service-heres-the-full-transcript/

 

 

Good to know her heart is in the right place. They may be illegal, but more importantly she needs her dishes cleaned after a hearty meal celebrating her "incredible bravery" with everyone who agreed with her on The View. 😄

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, NorthernRyland said:

I only became a racist after moving to Thailand. 

Who do you hate?

I have it in for the Swiss currently. I have turned against Israel over the last year. Not a fan of the Russians but I like the way they dress down the beach.

 

And I avoid the Americans, they all seem obsessed currently to want to know whether you are left or right! I lean slightly right but if you say anything slightly negative about the Orange man they accuse you of being an unshowered LGBT lefty. 

 

There are good and bad people from every race. But some races have a higher percentage of good, such as the UK. I think most of the immigrants to the UK are moving there because of the nice UK people, a bit like in the Land of Smiles where the Thai people make it so nice here and it attracts people to move here.

[sungod]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Perhaps in the context of the survey the hypocrisy might have been clear.

 

If the question wasn't asked then its wrong to make assumptions

[sammieuk1]

Up to 1 in 12 Londoners is an illegal migrant' Donald get your arse over here and sort these even bigger idiots out🤔

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, sungod said:

 

If the question wasn't asked then its wrong to make assumptions

Itself an assumption.

[NorthernRyland]

31 minutes ago, impulse said:

There's another one of those cherries. Perhaps it's the dire conditions brough on by unvetted immigration that's causing the low birthrate?

 

Totally. If you mix a predator in with a population it puts them on alert and changes their life strategy to survival mode.

 

There's also an element of being a caged animal in captivity because your society is a form of zoo and animals don't breed in captivity.

 

Multiracial societies have low trust and that's just a recipe for all sorts of problems. Same thing happens in Thailand in the tourist traps like Pattaya and Phuket.

[sungod]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Itself an assumption.

 

Which you have now turned into a deflection

[NorthernRyland]

5 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Who do you hate?

I have it in for the Swiss currently. I have turned against Israel over the last year. Not a fan of the Russians but I like the way they dress down the beach.

 

Because Thais are racist and I learned for them. 😂 Seriously it's this simple: Thailand for the Thais, England for the English and Europe for the Europeans. Saying this today in our countries makes you a racist but it's common sense literally everywhere else in the world.

[MalcolmB]

9 minutes ago, PomPolo said:

And do Thailand help us out with social welfare, housing, medical or handouts? 

Taxes are very low here so why would we expect handouts? 
We can go the very heavily subsidized public hospitals if we want and it is very cheap.

Visa free entry. If you want a work permit to work they hand those out, easy to start a company for a business. 

Housing is very cheap here. 
If you are looking for food handouts head down to the local temple just before midday. They always have too much fro the morning walk around and are happy to share.

Very nice people the Thais.

[NorthernRyland]

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Good to know her heart is in the right place. They may be illegal, but more importantly she needs her dishes cleaned after a hearty meal celebrating her "incredible bravery" with everyone who agreed with her on The View. 😄

It's the same every time.

 

 

In reality when the immigration population gets too large whites move out, especially the liberals. Every single time. They know about it too and aren't too happy.

 

 

[jippytum]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

Well, this thread is going to trigger the old racist types.

And ironically many of the ones that who themselves decided to move and live in Thailand. 
Funny that.

yes most of us that migrated to Thailand did so legally and do not rely on public handouts. Immigration policy in Thailand is also more efficient. Uk have no controll over immigrants

 

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, NorthernRyland said:

Because Thais are racist and I learned for them.

I am always on the lookout for those neo Nazi type gangs in Thailand. And you have to be careful with the frequent race riots in the streets. And I avoid public transport because of all the racial abuse hurled at me. And of course, I could never get a wife here because the Thai families would not allow their daughters to marry outside their race.