If anyone is interested here is a bit of background 

 

https://www.forcesnews.com/opinion/opinion-why-sas-didnt-try-capture-ira-clonoe

On 2/9/2025 at 3:02 PM, TedG said:

This is not how liberal democracies should be handling things. 

 

Semi-literate, hate fueled servile goons don't like liberal democracies or 'libtards'. Hadn't you noticed? 

 

Exhibit 1: I offer you the proud President of the US of A.

 

Exhibit 2: His supporters - visible on YouTube for your daily delectation.

4 minutes ago, BusyB said:

 

Semi-literate, hate fueled servile goons don't like liberal democracies or 'libtards'. Hadn't you noticed? 

 

Exhibit 1: I offer you the proud President of the US of A.

 

Exhibit 2: His supporters - visible on YouTube for your daily delectation.

 

 

Well done, you have just labelled over half the USA electorate. 

 

 

Given that there are 160m+ registered voters, that is a lot of stereotyping.

1 hour ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Well done, you have just labelled over half the USA electorate. 

 

 

Given that there are 160m+ registered voters, that is a lot of stereotyping.

 

Agreed. But it underlines something and needs to be said.

 

There has been a takeover. It's the white collar version of January 6. And yes, 70 odd million Americans actually voted for it despite the Shaman and the Proud Boys. (We note: boys not men.) I'm sure they're not all as thick as two by fours. But the vast majority I've seen and heard and read had no clue about just about anything. Anything at all. 

 

And the ones who get on mainstream TV are blatantly dissembling grifters and fake fact purveyors. Political flat-earthers.

 

A national outbreak of Dunning-Krugerism.

 

But this thread is about Trump's 'relationship' to what he considers art. Art being usually one of the first targets of people like him and his supporters because it expresses free thought and genuine freedom, which is anathema and a threat to them and their project. It's uncontrolled which inculcates fear in those who need to control everything. It puts people beyond their control.

 

That's why the Soviet Union and the Nazis (the two most well known examples) suppressed all forms of art and dictated what was acceptable and what not. The Great Dictator (watch the film, the whole film, from beginning to end: perhaps Charlie Chaplin's best) decides what is 'in' and what is 'out', who is 'in' and who is 'out', according to his own fear based and philistine, tiny minded taste. 'In' is usually retrospective, 'folksy' and utterly phony representations of a supposedly better, 'cleaner' past. Like now in the Kennedy Center. Cheered on by the sycophants, acolytes and the lying excuse makers in TV.

 

Kennedy himself would probably puke. There is indeed another America somewhere - we just can't see it right now and it seems to have caved. Possibly permanently, it's too soon to say. But we can hope.

 

In the meantime: enjoy the show folks.

10 minutes ago, BusyB said:

 

Agreed. But it underlines something and needs to be said.

 

There has been a takeover. It's the white collar version of January 6. And yes, 70 odd million Americans actually voted for it despite the Shaman and the Proud Boys. (We note: boys not men.) I'm sure they're not all as thick as two by fours. But the vast majority I've seen and heard and read had no clue about just about anything. Anything at all. 

 

And the ones who get on mainstream TV are blatantly dissembling grifters and fake fact purveyors. Political flat-earthers.

 

A national outbreak of Dunning-Krugerism.

 

But this thread is about Trump's 'relationship' to what he considers art. Art being usually one of the first targets of people like him and his supporters because it expresses free thought and genuine freedom, which is anathema and a threat to them and their project. It's uncontrolled which inculcates fear in those who need to control everything. It puts people beyond their control.

 

That's why the Soviet Union and the Nazis (the two most well known examples) suppressed all forms of art and dictated what was acceptable and what not. The Great Dictator (watch the film, the whole film, from beginning to end: perhaps Charlie Chaplin's best) decides what is 'in' and what is 'out', who is 'in' and who is 'out', according to his own fear based and philistine, tiny minded taste. 'In' is usually retrospective, 'folksy' and utterly phony representations of a supposedly better, 'cleaner' past. Like now in the Kennedy Center. Cheered on by the sycophants, acolytes and the lying excuse makers in TV.

 

Kennedy himself would probably puke. There is indeed another America somewhere - we just can't see it right now and it seems to have caved. Possibly permanently, it's too soon to say. But we can hope.

 

In the meantime: enjoy the show folks.

 

MODS:

 

I confused this thread with the Kennedy Center thread. I'll leave this here and hope you don't edit any of it because it's all relevant to Hotnsticky's comment. But I'll also weave it into the Kennedy Center thread where it more properly belongs.

 

Up to you ;D

 

2 hours ago, BusyB said:

 

Semi-literate, hate fueled servile goons don't like liberal democracies or 'libtards'. Hadn't you noticed? 

 

Exhibit 1: I offer you the proud President of the US of A.

 

Exhibit 2: His supporters - visible on YouTube for your daily delectation.

This is one of the dumbest replies I’ve ever recvied on this site. 

2 minutes ago, TedG said:

This is one of the dumbest replies I’ve ever recvied on this site. 

 

You mean you don't like it or agree. Fair enough.

 

It's not the best of my posts but the evidence is surely out in the open.

 

At least Hotnsticky went for the content rather than an insult. 

 

Big boy's games.... big boy's rules.....

38 minutes ago, BusyB said:

 

You mean you don't like it or agree. Fair enough.

 

It's not the best of my posts but the evidence is surely out in the open.

 

At least Hotnsticky went for the content rather than an insult. 

 

Low IQ people like you should not have access to the internet. 

Why aren't the IRA's atrocities being brought to book too? There are plenty of them too... or is it just the normal lefty nonsense BS that covers for their misdeeds?