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Labour is under increasing pressure to take action against a second MP linked to a controversial WhatsApp group that circulated sexist and racist messages. This comes after Andrew Gwynne was removed from his role as a health minister following the exposure of offensive online exchanges, including one message where he expressed hope that an elderly voter who didn’t support Labour would "die before the next election."  

 

"Housing Minister it’s ‘concerning’ Labour councillors didn’t call out antisemitic WhatsApp messages."

 

Gwynne, the MP for Denton and Gorton, has also been suspended from the Labour Party after further revelations showed he made anti-Semitic remarks and crude "jokes" about a constituent being "mown down" by a truck. The messages were shared in a group called "Trigger Me Timbers," which included more than a dozen Labour councillors, party officials, and at least one other MP from Manchester’s outskirts.  

 

Despite the growing scandal, Housing Minister Matthew Pennycook remained tight-lipped about potential disciplinary action against others involved. “I don’t know, personally, what other people on that WhatsApp conversation have said… I’ve been very clear, there’s an investigation taking place into the whole incident,” he said on *Sunday Morning With Trevor Phillips* on Sky News.  

 

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Gwynne has since apologised for his "badly misjudged comments," but his remarks have drawn sharp criticism. Shadow Cabinet Office Minister Alex Burghart condemned a message about an elderly constituent, calling it "quite a nasty attempt to do down an old person" and reflective of "the attitude that the Labour Party seems to have to elderly voters generally."  

 

Shadow minister @alexburghart says “sinister” comments made by MP Andrew Gwynne suggest Labour still has a “very serious problem with antisemitism." “I hope the Prime Minister will get to grips with that immediately," he adds.

 

One of the most shocking exchanges involved a 72-year-old woman who had contacted her local councillor regarding bin collections. After she mentioned that she hadn’t voted Labour but wanted to raise an issue, Gwynne allegedly wrote a suggested response: “Dear resident, F*** your bins. I’m re-elected and without your vote. Screw you. PS: Hopefully you’ll have croaked it by the all-outs.” The term "all-outs" refers to elections where all council seats are contested at once.  

 

The leaked messages, obtained by *The Mail on Sunday*, contained further offensive content. Gwynne was found to have written that someone "sounds too Jewish" and "too militaristic," seemingly based solely on their name. Other messages included racist remarks about veteran Labour MP Diane Abbott, mocking her historic achievement of becoming the first Black MP to speak at Prime Minister’s Questions. There were also sexist comments about Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner and crude references to a local Labour leader.  

 

Discussing an upcoming Labour meeting, one group member referenced Marshall Rosenberg, a late American psychologist known for conflict resolution techniques. Gwynne responded: “No. He sounds too militaristic and too Jewish. Is he in Mossad?” The remark plays into an enduring anti-Semitic stereotype, according to Alex Hearn, co-director of Labour Against Anti-Semitism.  

 

Gwynne’s history with online controversy dates back to 2018 when it was revealed he was in a Facebook group called "Labour Supporters," where anti-Semitic messages were shared. At the time, he distanced himself, saying: “I was added to this Facebook group without my knowledge or permission. I DO NOT support the posts and I ABHOR anti-Semitism. It has absolutely NO place in the Labour Party or in society. End of.” However, just months later, he was engaging in anti-Semitic banter in the WhatsApp group, even joking, “Geoffrey the Giraffe says don’t be nasty to the Jews,” referencing the mascot of the defunct Toys R Us chain.  

 

Gwynne also made offensive jokes about Diane Abbott’s role at Prime Minister’s Questions in October 2019. Abbott’s appearance was a historic moment as she became the first Black parliamentarian to represent her party in the weekly debate. When a group member questioned whether this moment was "a joke," Gwynne replied: "Because it’s Black History Month apparently." Another councillor suggested alternative Black MPs, both living and dead, saying: "Was David Lammy not available? I’d also take the corpse of Bernie Grant." Gwynne then added: "Or Desmond Swayne? Justin Trudeau??" This appeared to be a reference to the two politicians’ past controversies involving blackface caricatures.  

 

With Labour already reeling from the fallout of Gwynne’s removal, pressure is mounting for further disciplinary action. Whether others in the WhatsApp group will face consequences remains unclear, but the scandal has once again raised concerns about inappropriate behaviour within the party’s ranks.

 

Based on a report by Daily Mail | Sky News 2025-02-10

 

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34 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

Funny, any thread that is about the Tories or Reform, even the slightest unwoke thing or statement, and hundreds of far-lefty posters go post-crazy trying to put the boot in throwing words like fascist/nazis/far right extremists yada yada yada as much as possible. 

When it comes to a racist hate crime like this from a vile sneering far-lefty, who should be charged and jailed like the opposite political offenders swiftly are and would be, then there is an sinister and deafeningly stunning silence... with the best that our lefty brigade posters can muster is a tepid "Withdraw the whip and slap his wrist" nonsense.

The left-wing bias on here is a joke... What if I told you there was such a thing as far-left fascism and that anything slightly right of Stalin isn't "far right".  Haha.

Congratulations, you get the thread Godwin Gong.

 

“When it comes to a racist hate crime like this from a vile sneering far-lefty, who should be charged and jailed like the opposite political offenders swiftly are and would be, then there is an sinister and deafeningly stunning silence.”

 

How about this:

 

Investigate his remarks, if there are grounds for prosecution, prosecute and let the court deal with him.

 

In the meantime remove the whip and expel him from the Labour Party.

 

If voters in his constituency wish him removed, let them raise a recall petition.


 

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1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:


The two women at which this bigoted  racist vomited his venom are Diane Abbot and Angela Raynor.

 

Sound familiar Jonny?

That must explain why it seems to be OK to those in the left etc!

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1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No, my position has been consistent on all allegations of criminality, regardless of who is the accused or what their politics.

 

 

 

 

I'm very happy to hear that, and look forward to you being a consistant bastion of impartiality and balance without any bias or prejudice.

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If you start from the premise that all politicians are parasites you can't go far wrong.

 

This is a well paid job with benefits pension prestige and privileges not enjoyed by ordinary mortals, more or less guaranteed for 5 years with no compulsion to even turn up or do any work.

 

In fact they could employ people or even friends and family at no cost to themselves to make it appear although they were doing something by answering or writing letters emails etc. while they lay around on a beach or play golf or even fly off to some foreign country to try to get some despot elected President.

 

I'm willing to concede that possibly a few start off with the right ideals and the resolve to do good and make a difference but mostly the power and their new found lifestyle gets to them.

 

Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

Now how do I go about applying.

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If you are wondering what that sound is you can hear, it is the sound of the barrel being scraped to find a replacement for the racist bigot that lost his role as health minister.   Found at the bottom of this barrel is one "Ashley Dalton" who thinks women's toilets should be abolished and people can identify as Llamas.  

 

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https://dailysceptic.org/2025/02/10/new-health-minister-ashley-dalton-said-womens-toilets-should-be-removed-and-people-can-identify-as-llamas/

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Starmer has now lost the plot completely now. Just when you thought it couldn’t get any more insane than appointing David Lammy as Foreign Secretary the woman he has just chosen to replace disgraced Health Minister, Andrew Gwynne, Ashley Dalton, is madder than a box of frogs.

 

This new health minister:

 

Sued the NHS for £145,000 (unsuccessfully - thankfully)

Said you can identify as a Llama

Said trans women are not male

And thinks the UK should not have gendered bathrooms at all.

 

Even by your high standards two-tier, this is lunacy.

 

 

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