7 hours ago, bluemoon58 said:

Regards jet lag when I was in the military, the saying was, "west is best, east is a beast", and I've found that to be fairly accurate.

I never heard that saying when I was on active duty back in the early 1970's.  But based on my travel since then, I agree ... 

19 hours ago, novacova said:

Which ever airline that can get you there in the shortest amount time on a 787-9. 787 has a cabin altitude of 6000ft. This means higher partial pressures of oxygen (and also moisture levels) in the 787, which decreases many of the symptoms often attribute to jet lag, better sleep as well. Slightly more roomier and comfortable. 

That's a tough requirement.

Browsed through the 30 fastest connections and only AirCanada via Vancouver does 787 on both legs (can't see whether  "-9").

 

Starts with long leg:

 

8:35 AM to 6:55 AM (13h 20m)

 

8:40 AM to 4:51 PM (5h 11m)

 

Others do 787 only on short leg within Asia.

On 2/11/2025 at 7:06 PM, advancebooking said:

why?

Why didn't you travel over the Pacific to North American go the other way and then you tell me which was a better trip

Back when Thai had the non-stops from BKK to LAX & JFK, the LAX flight went over the Pacific, and the JFK flight went over the Atlantic. 

 

I'm sure they go whichever way is cheaper, and the cheaper way, is the faster way. 

On 2/10/2025 at 7:48 PM, advancebooking said:

I found Qatar airways.

 

 

Recommended, often the best price, many, many timetable options.

 

I'd purchase now as cheapest fare buckets are almost sold out. Travel Mon-Thu.

 

BKK-DOH-JFK return, 20:00 departure - 09:00 arrival (outbound) 129,545 THB in J (Business class, lounge access note that the cheapest business bucket - unbundled -  may not include lounge access or advanced seat selection), 3 hr layover, Q Suite DOH-JFK

 

 

 

Depending on how often you plan to fly, once I made gold on Emirates, I got lounge access for two and I got upgraded quite often. They even upgraded all three of us once (LAX-DXB) and I was the only gold card. 

 

 

On 2/11/2025 at 2:29 PM, Sheryl said:

On 2/11/2025 at 1:23 PM, Yellowtail said:

I remember Korean used to bake cookies mid-flight. The smell always woke me up. 

 

 

Still do. It's a great airline. 

Good to hear!

 

I'll fly to LAS soon BKK-ICN-LAS. First flight on Korean.

14 hours ago, GypsyT said:

Good to hear!

 

I'll fly to LAS soon BKK-ICN-LAS. First flight on Korean.

Get the bibimbap. 

 

I did the LAS-SIN nonstop once, not sure if they still have it, but that was good service. 

 

I lived in Vegas for a year back in the '70s, what a change. 

Most of the airlines mentioned have a fairly modern business class seat but a few routes have old crappy business class seats, hardly worth the money so beware.  

 

Here is a random day in April to New York on Turkish.  All four flights are the old business class (A330 and 777).  I'd only fly it if it were significantly cheaper.  Also if something goes wrong their customer service isn't great in my experience.  Emirates still flies some old configurations as does Korean Air and maybe others.  One of the Korean Air daily flights to New York has the old configuration (the A380).

2 hours ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said:

One of the Korean Air daily flights to New York has the old configuration (the A380).

 

 

Dude, how ef'n old are we?

13 hours ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said:

Most of the airlines mentioned have a fairly modern business class seat but a few routes have old crappy business class seats, hardly worth the money so beware.  

 

Here is a random day in April to New York on Turkish.  All four flights are the old business class (A330 and 777).  I'd only fly it if it were significantly cheaper.  Also if something goes wrong their customer service isn't great in my experience.  Emirates still flies some old configurations as does Korean Air and maybe others.  One of the Korean Air daily flights to New York has the old configuration (the A380).

How can I check if it will be a new or old plane? Ive had a few business class flights on thaiair that were dated planes. I was disappointed. How do I check this. Is it only by calling the airline?

32 minutes ago, advancebooking said:

How can I check if it will be a new or old plane? Ive had a few business class flights on thaiair that were dated planes. I was disappointed. How do I check this. Is it only by calling the airline?

Flight Guru app 

10 hours ago, advancebooking said:

How can I check if it will be a new or old plane? Ive had a few business class flights on thaiair that were dated planes. I was disappointed. How do I check this. Is it only by calling the airline?

 

For ones that fly from Bangkok to JFK or Newark these all pretty much have newish to top of the line business class seats -

ANA, Japan Airlines, EVA, Singapore, Etihad, Cathay Pacific.  For a couple of these there might be older business class on your connecting flight within Asia but the long flights should be good.  Another option is connecting on an Asian carrier then Delta, AA, or United for the longer flight.  All the US airlines have newish seats.

 

These should have new or acceptable the majority of the time but not guaranteed

Qatar, Emirates, KLM, Air France, Asiana, Finnair, Lufthansa. 

 

Here's an example of Emirates being sued for a bait and switch based on their advertising

https://businesstravelerusa.com/news/two-passengers-sued-emirates-for-deceptive-advertising-in-new-zealand/

 

Definitely confirm for these

Korean Air

Turkish

British Airways

 

I'm not aware of an easy way to tell about a particular route since some have schedule changes throughout the year.  You could post here, or in a Reddit thread for the particular airline, just provide the dates and flight numbers.  Or Google something like (Turkish business class seats review) and limit the search to the last couple of years to get an idea of what is on offer.  Calling the airline is probably the worst option since they may be clueless or give you incorrect information.