Support for Zelensky surges in Ukraine

[bannork]

After Trump's two lies about Zelensky yesterday: namely only 4% of Ukrainians support Zelensky, plus Zelensky himself  started the war, support within the country has soared for its President.

"Ukraine even more united after Trump attacks Zelenskyy: Defense expert - Focus Taiwan" https://focustaiwan.tw/politics/202502200013

[SunnyinBangrak]

If he was that popular he'd call an election so could be a legitimate leader. Why do the American left fall so hard for clumsy propaganda?

[connda]

Then he should have no problems with holding elections.  But he does have a problem with elections, so he's a de-facto dictators because his term is up.  So the constant effort to pose him as "popular" within Ukraine is propaganda.  And nonsense.
Get real kids - The war is being scaled down by Russia and the US, and Ukraine and the EU are spectators because in reality, Ukraine and the EU want endless war and want the strategic defeat of Russia as does the US Neo-cons and the US Left.  The Trump administrations wants a return to sanity. If Zelinsky was smart, he's be making plans for retirement in London or at one of his many villas in the EU, and enjoy the graft he siphoned off of the top of the "foreign aid."  Or hang on to power and find out.

[frank83628]

17 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

If he was that popular he'd call an election so could be a legitimate leader. Why do the American left fall so hard for clumsy propaganda?

They're not all Americans, just left or anti Trumpers in general

[connda]

Here's reality.  If you're an EU elite, a Neo-con, a US pro-war Leftie, or Zelinsky?  Read 'em and weep.  There's a new sheriff in town and his name is Donald J. Trump and the game is up. 
Ukraine has lost the war, NATO is a lost cause, and European Union is in for a voter wake-up call.  Well, unless they go Full-Zelinsky and ban elections in order to "save democracy."    Big Daddy Warbucks and his administration won't be happy. 
 

 

[Tropicalevo]

He was elected democratically.

It is suicide to change horses mid race when the guy in charge is doing a good job.

Any election now would have major outside interference (as shown already by the two dictators - Putin and his poodle).

The Ukrainians want him there.

Other should butt out with their crass comments.

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

After Trump's two lies about Zelensky yesterday: namely only 4% of Ukrainians support Zelensky, plus Zelensky himself  started the war, support within the country has soared for its President.

"Ukraine even more united after Trump attacks Zelenskyy: Defense expert - Focus Taiwan" https://focustaiwan.tw/politics/202502200013

Same experts that had Harris a clear winner of the last election?

 

You guys are relentless in posting total rubbish, gullible . Com

[lordgrinz]

1 minute ago, Tropicalevo said:

He was elected democratically.

It is suicide to change horses mid race when the guy in charge is doing a good job.

Any election now would have major outside interference (as shown already by the two dictators - Putin and his poodle).

The Ukrainians want him there.

Other should butt out with their crass comments.

 

So everyone should declare Zelensky King of Ukraine?

[candide]

53 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

If he was that popular he'd call an election so could be a legitimate leader. Why do the American left fall so hard for clumsy propaganda?

As already mentioned to you many times, the constitution forbids elections when the country is under martial law.

 

But don't let facts get in the way of a good Russian/MAGA story! 

[candide]

47 minutes ago, connda said:

Then he should have no problems with holding elections.  But he does have a problem with elections, so he's a de-facto dictators because his term is up.  So the constant effort to pose him as "popular" within Ukraine is propaganda.  And nonsense.
Get real kids - The war is being scaled down by Russia and the US, and Ukraine and the EU are spectators because in reality, Ukraine and the EU want endless war and want the strategic defeat of Russia as does the US Neo-cons and the US Left.  The Trump administrations wants a return to sanity. If Zelinsky was smart, he's be making plans for retirement in London or at one of his many villas in the EU, and enjoy the graft he siphoned off of the top of the "foreign aid."  Or hang on to power and find out.

More B.S. from you. 

 

According to the constitution there can be no election when the country is under martial law ( for reasons you can easily guess)!

[NoDisplayName]

44 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

It is suicide to change horses mid race when the guy in charge is doing a good job.

 

Loss of a quarter of your territory, economy dependent on foreign begging, and an entire generation under ground is wi....i mean, doing a good job?

 

We have different standards!

[NoDisplayName]

17 minutes ago, candide said:

More B.S. from you. 

 

According to the constitution there can be no election when the country is under martial law ( for reasons you can easily guess)!

 

So cancel martial law.

 

Easy as piroshki!

[NoDisplayName]

48 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

He was elected democratically.

 

 

So was that other little nazi fellow who liked to wear military garb.

[bannork]

52 minutes ago, connda said:

Here's reality.  If you're an EU elite, a Neo-con, a US pro-war Leftie, or Zelinsky?  Read 'em and weep.  There's a new sheriff in town and his name is Donald J. Trump and the game is up. 
Ukraine has lost the war, NATO is a lost cause, and European Union is in for a voter wake-up call.  Well, unless they go Full-Zelinsky and ban elections in order to "save democracy."    Big Daddy Warbucks and his administration won't be happy. 
 

 

Why does Trump support Russia?

Lewis makes four important points.

1. Misinformation, Maga cultists are radicalised by lies from the Kremlin and their Maga supporters.

2. Trump etc have the same ideology as Putin. They like he's an autocrat, a traditionalist, anti liberal. Note Vance's support for the far right AFD.

3. Trump sees financial opportunities if peace is made with Russia.

4. Geopolitics. Trump dislikes China and wants to wean Russia away from China to form an alliance with the USA.

 

[candide]

Just now, NoDisplayName said:

 

So cancel martial law.

 

Easy as piroshki!

Suuuure! When the country is under assault by Russia  canceling martial law is the thing to do, just because Trump is diffusing Russian propaganda! 55555 

 

(Not to mention the lack of practicality of voting under Russian bombs, and when a large share of the population has been displaced in Ukraine or abroad, or is busy fighting outside their usual location) 

 

BTW, the Ukrainian parliament voted to delay elections.

[NoDisplayName]

Russia held elections.

Donbass and Crimea held elections.

 

Why do you hate democracy so?

[candide]

10 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

Russia held elections.

Donbass and Crimea held elections.

 

Why do you hate democracy so?

Why can't you understand that the Ukrainian constitution forbids holding elections under martial law,  and that martial law is necessary because Ukraine is assaulted by Russia? 

[GammaGlobulin]

That's fine.

Support surges.

But....

Does it even matter?

 

[NoDisplayName]

17 minutes ago, candide said:

Why can't you understand that the Ukrainian constitution forbids holding elections under martial law,  and that martial law is necessary because Ukraine is assaulted by Russia? 

 

My, isn't that convenient!

"We had to destroy democracy in order to save it!"

[candide]

11 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

My, isn't that convenient!

"We had to destroy democracy in order to save it!"

Suuure! How convenient to be assaulted and bombed by Russia! 

[NoDisplayName]

2 minutes ago, candide said:

Suuure! How convenient to be assaulted and bombed by Russia! 

 

Huh!

 

Ethnic cleansing has consequences.

 

Who knew!

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, NoDisplayName said:

Russia held elections.

Donbass and Crimea held elections.

 

Why do you hate democracy so?

Not actual elections. 

[Jingthing]

Go ahead and keep repeating the Putin (now also Trump) propaganda talking points.

[candide]

16 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Huh!

 

Ethnic cleansing has consequences.

 

Who knew!

Suuuree Vlad! 🙂

[AlexRich]

1 hour ago, NoDisplayName said:

Russia held elections.

Donbass and Crimea held elections.

 

Why do you hate democracy so?

Are you a Russian bot? Putin has never held free and fair elections since he came to power. The opposition candidates are handpicked. Indeed, one of them described Putin as a great leader on his own campaign trail? Russia has never been a democracy, it is a kleptocracy, run by criminals. 
 

Everyone, apart from you, knows that elections in Russia are fake. 

[save the frogs]

Trump and Putin: A New Alliance to Weaken Europe?

 

 

[Patong2021]

Trump is forcing Zelenskyy to remain in office. If  Ukrainians are given a choice of endorsing Zelenshkyy or  being bullied by Trump, they will hold their noses and  support Zelenskyy.

 

Ukraine can't hold an election because a large part of the country is  occupied by Russia and/or at risk of being bombed should an election be held. Russia would also attempt to sabotage the election.

[impulse]

21 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Trump is forcing Zelenskyy to remain in office. If  Ukrainians are given a choice of endorsing Zelenshkyy or  being bullied by Trump, they will hold their noses and  support Zelenskyy.

 

Ukraine can't hold an election because a large part of the country is  occupied by Russia and/or at risk of being bombed should an election be held. Russia would also attempt to sabotage the election.

 

The USA was under existential threat from the Axis in the '40s and we still held elections.

 

Are you claiming the guy who declared martial law is capable of holding off elections as long as he wishes?   And that's okay?

 

In recent history, they referred to that guy as Fuhrer.  I wonder what the Ukrainian translation is.

 

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10 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

If he was that popular he'd call an election so could be a legitimate leader. Why do the American left fall so hard for clumsy propaganda?

Well, maybe if he was Donald Trump, he would call an election. Because to do that, he would have to violate the Ukrainian Constitution which specifically says elections can't be held while martial law is in effect. 

[Moonlover]

11 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

If he was that popular he'd call an election so could be a legitimate leader. Why do the American left fall so hard for clumsy propaganda?

How on Earth can they possibly hold elections in the middle of a war? The logistics of doing so make it all but impossible. It is also a well known fact that Russia has interfered with Ukraine's elections in the past in order to promote their favoured candidate and I'm sure they're not above doing so again.

 

And just for the record, Winston Churchill suspended elections during WW2 for similar logistical and disruptive reasons.