Fed-Up Bangkok Locals Demand Action on Rowdy Foreign Renters

[Digitalbanana]

6 hours ago, sandrew33 said:

6 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

A curiously anonymous report with no details of the location or people involved.

You saying it doesn’t happen? 

More a limitation of writing news using AI bots scanning Facebook pages I would say.

[impulse]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

6 hours ago, hotchilli said:

So who is renting out the condos, the room owner or the condo owner?

The condo owner obviously rents his place out,  not the building owner.

 

I don't know how the numbers shake out in Thailand, but back home, the developers often rent out unsold units to generate a little revenue.  Which makes it tough to complain and get any resolution when it's the developer and not a single unit owner.

[WDSmart]

1 hour ago, jojothai said:

1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

Arrest them, lock them up, and then deport them.

So its only Foreigners?
How do they deport all the Thais  breaking the law.

They don't. If they are Thais, just arrest them and lock them up. 

[hotchilli]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

I don't know how the numbers shake out in Thailand, but back home, the developers often rent out unsold units to generate a little revenue.  Which makes it tough to complain and get any resolution when it's the developer and not a single unit owner.

Exactly

[Zack61]

My heart goes out to anyone who is subjected to living anywhere near an AirBnB. Must be horrible. The laws of probability ensure that you will get the odd a$$hole and then multiply that by the number of short rentals in a condo complex. No more quiet life

[SAFETY FIRST]

20 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Foreign renters

Disrespectful bastards. 

 

Most have mental health problems. 

 

 

[AustinRacing]

Most of the blame is with owners renting them out. Young tourists have paid good money to have fun. 

[Samh]

So does this mean that the authorities are going to stop Thais also their very very loud all night parties? Then there is the once a month all night noise because one Thai family is sending one of their sons to be a monk. I wish Thais would do a little inward thinking now and again.

[Bangkokhatter]

3 hours ago, black tabby12345 said:

The editors should  clarify the nationalities  when they cover some troublesome aliens.

 

Otherwise, it simply stirs up general  Anti-Foreigners sentiments among the population.

And it is unfair and dangerous; potentially increasing Xenophobia among Thai people.

 

Pretty much like Sweeping Statement; mixing the good and bad altogether.

Gentlemen and Riff Raffs must be separated.

 

Not all foreign travelers/expats are behaving in the same way.

Some are law abiding and good mannered.

Some others  cause stupid problems by their lack of courtesy and consideration to the others.

 

So it is appropriate to single out the origins of the unruly ones instead.

 

Some deserves to be hated.

Some deserves to be favored.

Depending on their level of conscience and etiquette exercised.

How will identifying nationalities help the situation?

 

For every sad sack British guy making a fool of himself there are probably another ten perfect gentlemen going about their daily business causing no ill will to anyone. The same can be said for any nationality here.

 

Many Thais are generally xenephobic and would not care the actual nationality, to them we are all foreigners.

 

The problem as always is lack of enforcement.

[black tabby12345]

41 minutes ago, Bangkokhatter said:

Many Thais are generally xenephobic

 

Do you really feel like that?

That is something I haven't really felt.

There are always someone who doesn't like  Different People from outside, in any countries, for various reasons.

 

But general anti-alien sentiment here, is something which looks totally alien to me.

I have been here for nearly 2 decades by now though.

 

I wonder if you are in the area with more foreigner-related troubles (e.g. some part of Pattaya or Phuket)?

If so, what you feel might be more or less understandable though.

 

I have been in Chiang Mai, since the beginning of my settlement.

If I share the same impression with you(feeling xenophobia), I wouldn't stay here for this long...

[Samh]

The very fact that ths site on a daily basis publishes Thai news stories that are foreigner this and foreigner that absolutey proves that the Thais are xenophobic. Most of the anti foreigner articles are more often than not far less serious than what the Thais do themselves. So by definition zenophobic. Now we have Thais complaining about foreigners being noisey. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. It will be foreigners are more dangerous drivers next. Hang on, they already do.

[happyinthailand]

I think this is an AI generated article based on the question : "Chat GPT please write an article about noisy, drug taking tourists renting  rooms in my expensive condo block"  It is just too generic and uninteresting to have been written by a real human being.

[pomchop]

4 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

 

Its not a HOA rule, It comes under Hotel legislation, only places with a hotel license can do short term rental. If someone has the keys to a condo, and the owners permission, there isn't much the condo juristic can do. Its a police matter.

But most of the condo places in question do not have a hotel license as i understand it.  Condo juristic is suppose to enforce hoa rules and if no hotel license no short term rentals and hoa rules prevail....or they are supposed to prevail if the jurristic would simply enforce the rules.  It is not rocket science.

[CFCol]

After 5 hours none of the respondents have been able to answer my question;(which government authority is responsible for policing short term rentals)

[WDSmart]

16 minutes ago, CFCol said:

After 5 hours none of the respondents have been able to answer my question;(which government authority is responsible for policing short term rentals)

In the cases this forum is discussing, disturbing the peace, I'd think any regular policing unit would have the authority to address and even arrest the offenders. 

[Peterw42]

33 minutes ago, CFCol said:

After 5 hours none of the respondents have been able to answer my question;(which government authority is responsible for policing short term rentals)

There are raids every couple of years, usually in response to news stories like this one. In the past its the police who turn up, accompanied by people from the local Gov offices 

[Kinok Farang]

Been saying it for ages now.

Much too many Americans over here.

[pomchop]

Note: Residential buildings do not need to apply for a hotel license if there are only four rooms and less than 20 customers. The officer has to be informed thereof, and will go to check the place to classify it.

There are four different types of hotel licenses:

• https://thailand.acclime.com/wp-content/uploads/dot.svg

  A logo of the trademark in the exact color

• https://thailand.acclime.com/wp-content/uploads/dot.svg

  Hotel and restaurant business: application fee of 20,000 THB
• https://thailand.acclime.com/wp-content/uploads/dot.svg

  Hotel, restaurant and seminar rooms: application fee of 30,000 THB
• https://thailand.acclime.com/wp-content/uploads/dot.svg

  Hotel, restaurant, seminar rooms, entertainment business: application fee of 40,000 THB

An additional fee of 80 THB per room per year is due.

The license has to be renewed every five years, and then half price of the government fee will have to be paid.

The documents to be provided mainly consist of the construction permit, map of the interior, landlord documents, map of the location showing that there is no school or temple in the surroundings, and of course the company documents.

[it is what it is]

10 hours ago, blaze master said:

Thailand is reaching a boiling point. 

 

far from it, my friends are middle class professionals and are pretty happy with the way things are at the moment.

 

where are you getting your info? the internet? bar girls?

[Bangkokhatter]

5 hours ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

Do you really feel like that?

That is something I haven't really felt.

There are always someone who doesn't like  Different People from outside, in any countries, for various reasons.

 

But general anti-alien sentiment here, is something which looks totally alien to me.

I have been here for nearly 2 decades by now though.

 

I wonder if you are in the area with more foreigner-related troubles (e.g. some part of Pattaya or Phuket)?

If so, what you feel might be more or less understandable though.

 

I have been in Chiang Mai, since the beginning of my settlement.

If I share the same impression with you(feeling xenophobia), I wouldn't stay here for this long...

No i live and work on the outskirts of Bangkok for almost as long as you have been here.

 

I don't personally worry about their xenophobia, it doesn't affect me really and i tend to enjoy living here for the most part.

 

That does not however change my view that many  Thais are xenephobic, although i do agree it is more present in the tourist areas.

[phetphet]

It may only get worse. Thailand can never have enough tourists. Always wants more.

 

[blaze master]

1 hour ago, it is what it is said:

 

far from it, my friends are middle class professionals and are pretty happy with the way things are at the moment.

 

where are you getting your info? the internet? bar girls?

 

That settles it. If your tiny circle of life says its OK.....it must be. 

 

Bar girls ? Are you ok feeling alright ?

[CFCol]

4 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

There are raids every couple of years, usually in response to news stories like this one. In the past its the police who turn up, accompanied by people from the local Gov offices 

Which Dept. Of local government. It's not the noise issue I'm talking about , it's which authority is responsible for policing the renting and hotel laws and licensing aspect.

[CFCol]

3 hours ago, pomchop said:

Note: Residential buildings do not need to apply for a hotel license if there are only four rooms and less than 20 customers. The officer has to be informed thereof, and will go to check the place to classify it.

There are four different types of hotel licenses:

• https://thailand.acclime.com/wp-content/uploads/dot.svg

  A logo of the trademark in the exact color

• https://thailand.acclime.com/wp-content/uploads/dot.svg

  Hotel and restaurant business: application fee of 20,000 THB
• https://thailand.acclime.com/wp-content/uploads/dot.svg

  Hotel, restaurant and seminar rooms: application fee of 30,000 THB
• https://thailand.acclime.com/wp-content/uploads/dot.svg

  Hotel, restaurant, seminar rooms, entertainment business: application fee of 40,000 THB

An additional fee of 80 THB per room per year is due.

The license has to be renewed every five years, and then half price of the government fee will have to be paid.

The documents to be provided mainly consist of the construction permit, map of the interior, landlord documents, map of the location showing that there is no school or temple in the surroundings, and of course the company documents.

Which

officer has to be informed thereof?

[BayArea]

16 hours ago, blaze master said:

Thailand is reaching a boiling point. 

They wanted to be the hub of everything, so now enjoy it!!

[BayArea]

4 hours ago, phetphet said:

It may only get worse. Thailand can never have enough tourists. Always wants more.

 

never enough with the greedy TAT in charge.

[BayArea]

7 hours ago, Kinok Farang said:

Been saying it for ages now.

Much too many Americans over here.

Americans are the least of LOS worries compared to other nationalities coming to its shores.

[BayArea]

13 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Thailand is full of Thai people and only a few foreigners

not anymore. Israelis are making LOS their new home. the countless Ukrainians and Russians are coming more and more by the day. 

let's not forget the rich as well as the criminal Chinese element are making Thailand home away from home. 

[OldBird]

Cry me a freaking river. I will worry about the local peace when they stop driving fruit trucks up and down the street blasting 5 bullhorns about the price of their product at 5 am.  Or when they stop the political truck from basting campaign ads from dawn till dusk. Or when they crack down on locals racing their hopped-up mopeds with after-market mufflers up and down the streets at all hours of the night.

[OldBird]

7 hours ago, Kinok Farang said:

Been saying it for ages now.

Much too many Americans over here.

Compared to what?  Chinese? Russians? Britts or Islaelies?  In 8 years of being here and having to see my PO every 90 days for the last 8 years, I have seen 2 Americans. One of the two was myself in the mirror as I washed my hands.