Zelensky - what possessed you?

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

On top of that he put Tulsi Gabbard a known Putin boot licker to head the U.S. intelligence agency. Allies (correction -- FORMER allies) will not be sharing key intelligence with the U.S. anymore with the rational fear that it will be leaked to the Kremlin.

Very scary times indeed.

 

A known Putin boot licker? Just because Horrible Hillary said so? 

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

This is for all the right wing supporters of Israel who who back Trump when it comes to Ukraine. 

"Imagine if, when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel came to the White House this month, Trump and Vance told him that the war with Hamas had gone on too long, too many lives had been lost and it was costing America too much money, so it was time for Bibi and the Israeli people to do a deal with the Hamas aggressor.

Because Russia did to Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022, what Hamas did to Israel on Oct. 7, 2023 — a surprise invasion, murder and the ensuing sexual violence to wreak destruction on another nation and its society. Trump took Bibi’s side 110 percent against Hamas, and now he is taking Putin’s side 110 percent against Zelensky and Ukraine."

https://archive.ph/0R3B0

 

Actually the case is even worse since, unlike Russia, Hamas never had a chance of destroying Israel

 

 

 

 

Imagine. 555

[Patong2021]

President Zelenskyy's response was  understandable. Vance was intent on insulting Ukraine and in making  the Ukrainians grovel. That is not diplomacy, nor the appropriate methodology to encourage a nation to accept  terms and conditions that dismiss the  human losses Ukraine has suffered. Trump was not presidential. What he said was best said behind closed doors. The manner in which Zelenskyy was treated and the Ukraine insulted made it impossible for Zelenskyy to accept any terms imposed by the USA.

 

The takeaway, is that every US ally, including those who think they have an iron clad guarantee from the USA, countries like Japan, South Korea, Australia and Israel had better think again. The USA is not a reliable or trustworthy partner and can no longer be  considered anything more than a potential business market.

 

If Zelenskyy has the connections, now is the time he should enter into an agreement with China to develop his mineral wealth. Linked up with China, there would be a near monopoly on rare earth metals. He could charge the USA the prices it merits. The same goes for every other economy. If anyone needed a clear message that the USA is not a friend, nor an ally, it was given by the Trump and Vance outbursts.

 

Let the tariff madness begin next week, and oh, how the US  economy will suffer. A large number of the people who voted for Trump are finding out now, More will find out in the coming months.

[connda]

When Lindsey Graham turns on you, you're days are numbered. 
'Zelenskyy either needs to resign or he needs to change'
 

 

[theshu25]

33 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Europe is a failed empire. High unemployment while the US has the biggest military and the biggest economy. Germany is the biggest EU country and has 6.2% unemployment. Recently booted the leftist leader.

USA does not have the biggest economy.

[Harrisfan]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Trump demonstrated how weak he is, by having Vance along as his side-kick in a two on one.

 

Zelensky was supposed to kiss Trump's butt. Trump threw his toys out of the pram when he didn't.

 

Zelensky is a statesman, Trump and Vance never will be.

 

 

Statesmen don't dress and talk like that. Vance is 100x smarter than Biden ever was.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, theshu25 said:

USA does not have the biggest economy.

Yes it does.

[RuamRudy]

3 hours ago, hotsun said:

But a million times less than the US. Vance was referring to that

 

Can you provide examples of how free speech is stifled in Europe?

[hotsun]

Just now, RuamRudy said:

 

Can you provide examples of how free speech is stifled in Europe?

No but you can look through the thread, others have done it

[Yagoda]

8 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Vance was intent on insulting Ukraine and in making  the Ukrainians grovel.

They should.

 

9 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

That is not diplomacy, nor the appropriate methodology to encourage a nation to accept  terms and conditions that dismiss the  human losses Ukraine has suffered.

Ukraine is a farce, and diplomacy in this case is "Do what we tell you to do"

 

10 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Trump was not presidential. What he said was best said behind closed doors. The manner in which Zelenskyy was treated and the Ukraine insulted made it impossible for Zelenskyy to accept any terms imposed by the USA.

 

Far as I am concerned, having watched it twice, in its entirety, Trump should have slapped the whiney little dictators face.

[RuamRudy]

2 minutes ago, hotsun said:

No but you can look through the thread, others have done it

 

If it is in line with the poorly researched guff that Vance came out with when he demonstrated his inexperience as a politician whilst he visited Europe, I think I will pass, thanks. As there has been nothing credible ever posited elsewhere, I assume it will be the same nonsense. 

[gargamon]

I sure did miss all this chaos when Biden was president.

[RuamRudy]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

What strain did you smoke this morning, I need sedation my back hurts.

 

There you go Mr Berry, regressing discourse one post at a time. 

[Yagoda]

7 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

There you go Mr Berry, regressing discourse one post at a time. 

Got to get it to youur level. Hope the backhoe doesnt run out of fuel

[Lacessit]

50 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

President Zelenskyy's response was  understandable. Vance was intent on insulting Ukraine and in making  the Ukrainians grovel. That is not diplomacy, nor the appropriate methodology to encourage a nation to accept  terms and conditions that dismiss the  human losses Ukraine has suffered. Trump was not presidential. What he said was best said behind closed doors. The manner in which Zelenskyy was treated and the Ukraine insulted made it impossible for Zelenskyy to accept any terms imposed by the USA.

 

The takeaway, is that every US ally, including those who think they have an iron clad guarantee from the USA, countries like Japan, South Korea, Australia and Israel had better think again. The USA is not a reliable or trustworthy partner and can no longer be  considered anything more than a potential business market.

 

If Zelenskyy has the connections, now is the time he should enter into an agreement with China to develop his mineral wealth. Linked up with China, there would be a near monopoly on rare earth metals. He could charge the USA the prices it merits. The same goes for every other economy. If anyone needed a clear message that the USA is not a friend, nor an ally, it was given by the Trump and Vance outbursts.

 

Let the tariff madness begin next week, and oh, how the US  economy will suffer. A large number of the people who voted for Trump are finding out now, More will find out in the coming months.

Australia has stood by America in all the wars the USA has fought. Our money and lives have been spent on those wars.

 

To be hit with 25% tariffs when America has a positive balance of trade is the ultimate insult to an ally.

 

The USA is not even as trustworthy as a used car salesman. We would probably be better off with the Chinese.

[Lacessit]

32 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Let the tariff madness begin next week, and oh, how the US  economy will suffer. A large number of the people who voted for Trump are finding out now, More will find out in the coming months.

Remember when Trump said " I don't care about you, I just want your vote"?

 

A new national sport for Americans, getting tossed under a bus.

[Chivas]

Vance was pure evil quite deliberately baiting Zelensky until Trump joined in as well

 

Bear in mind Zelenskys lack of English both Vance and Trumps behaviour bordered on pure evil

 

Feel incredibly sorry for the Ukrainian President

[steven100]

Seems the US has lost any and all credibility globally.  It's now perceived as a shark in the tank.

 

Lies,  extorsion,  fake guarantees,  mistrust,  abuse of power,   and I could go on & on .....

 

what could possibly go wrong Donald     !!      

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Australia has stood by America in all the wars the USA has fought. Our money and lives have spent on those wars.

 

To be hit with 25% tariffs when America has a positive balance of trade is the ultimate insult to an ally.

 

The USA is not even as trustworthy as a used car salesman. We would probably be better off with the Chinese.

Well now that you have shown your love of your own little country by wishing it to be swallowed up by the Chinese Dragon (you wont be posting your disloyalty to them I am sure), I guess we have no choice but to make you a state.

 

Nice mineral mines. Better practice the Star Spangled Banner.

 

PS you guys arent our ally. You are our client, our servant, our flunky. You are DEPENDENT on us like the diapered baby squealing for its teat. We OWN you.

 

MY vote for MY President means I vote for YOUR BOSS.

 

Now carry on with your silliness until we tell you to do something. Well at your age probably not, but maybe a grandchild or two, cannon fodder is always required.  Freedom of Speech applies even to ungrateful brats or whinging employees.

[Harrisfan]

2 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Seems the US has lost any and all credibility globally.  It's now perceived as a shark in the tank.

 

Lies,  extorsion,  fake guarantees,  mistrust,  abuse of power,   and I could go on & on .....

 

what could possibly go wrong Donald     !!      

World's best economy. What are you looking at? 

[Yagoda]

5 minutes ago, Chivas said:

Vance was pure evil quite deliberately baiting Zelensky until Trump joined in as well

 

Bear in mind Zelenskys lack of English both Vance and Trumps behaviour bordered on pure evil

 

Feel incredibly sorry for the Ukrainian President

Well he can return our 350 billion then. Far as I am concerned, for 350 billion of MY dollars, Don should have peed in his face.

[Yagoda]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

World's best economy. What are you looking at? 

Hes european. His tiny little apartment is gonna get smaller when he cant suck off our money any more.

[Harrisfan]

7 minutes ago, Chivas said:

Vance was pure evil quite deliberately baiting Zelensky until Trump joined in as well

 

Bear in mind Zelenskys lack of English both Vance and Trumps behaviour bordered on pure evil

 

Feel incredibly sorry for the Ukrainian President

Vance is great. Been perfect for 9 months and the left can't cope. The bum boxing trainer got a wake up call. 

[hotsun]

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

World's best economy. What are you looking at? 

Quite strange when people who normally only comment on thai news suddenly have an opinion on world matters. Feels like winning

[Jingthing]

56 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

A known Putin boot licker? Just because Horrible Hillary said so? 

Tulsi Gabbard’s history with Russia is even more concerning than you think | The Independent

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tulsi-gabbard-russian-connection-dni-trump-syria-b2692244.html

 

The Curious Case of Tulsi Gabbard: Is She a Russian Asset or a Dupe?

www.thebulwark.com/p/tulsi-gabbard-russian-asset-or-dupe

[Tidal wave]

Humiliation of the USA 

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Yes how embarrassing. Zelensky made a fool of himself. You support him. Be like walking into a Merc dealer and insulting the two bosses then wondering why you got a bad deal.

Like Trump and Vance, Mercs are overrated.

[KireB]

4 hours ago, hotsun said:

Decent Americans want to stop funding this war

Decent Americans need to know when to speak and when to listen. 

[Harrisfan]

I dress better going to a cafe

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, hotsun said:

Are you saying free speech exists in europe?

It clearly doesn’t exist in Trump’s White House.