Uncertainty Over U.S. Troops in Europe Sparks Anxiety Among Allies

[newbee2022]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They would be better paying for their own 35,000 troops, but they probably couldn't find that many willing to join the military without conscription. It's not an attractive career for soft boys that like to play games and look at porn on the internet in mummy's basement.

???😳 What do you mean? It's confusing. Who should pay for 35.000 soldiers? US govt?

[MicroB]

11 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I would love to see no US military overseas.  Total waste of lives, assets & money.  Bring 'em all home 😎

 

Well, you start saving money by laying off the troops., and reducing headcount I believe its pretty common for service to be ended with no severance pay. They can take all those Aazon van drivng, crop picking, toilet cleaning, gardening roles now available.

 

The US will also need to find barrack accomodation for returned troops. Currently, under Forces Agreements, the host countries provide, fund and maintain accomodation. The American President has some experience of that, because his dad went from house builder to property developer when he built accomodation for war factory workers, as part of federal contractors; he was accused of being a war profiteer.

 

If a large standing army is maintained, the federal government will likely need to expropriate land to set aside for expanded ranges, to compensate for the loss of overseas training facilities. Unless they seize land, there will be a cost to that in compensating land owners,

 

You will miss that tax free American beer you can buy in Bangkok though.

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

Well, you start saving money by laying off the troops., and reducing headcount I believe its pretty common for service to be ended with no severance pay. They can take all those Aazon van drivng, crop picking, toilet cleaning, gardening roles now available.

Or, they can help secure the border.  Assist with natural disaster relief as FEMA fails miserably.  

 

Those with skills, can simply enter the work forces, as many, like myself, joined to military to learn a skill.   Plenty of skilled service folks, that support fighting troops.  Those gung ho folks can be retrained to join the police forces around the country.  So they can raise the hiring standard again, instead of taking anyone, including criminals, as some departments have trouble filling the ranks.

 

The hatred & short sightedness of the left is blinding 

[Mike_Hunt]

It's time for the gutless Europeans to build a real army and defend themselves.   The US has been subsidizing the defenses of Europe since the end of WW2 at a great expense to the US taxpayer. 

[Mike_Hunt]

12 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

Well, you start saving money by laying off the troops., and reducing headcount I believe its pretty common for service to be ended with no severance pay. They can take all those Aazon van drivng, crop picking, toilet cleaning, gardening roles now available.

 

The US will also need to find barrack accomodation for returned troops. Currently, under Forces Agreements, the host countries provide, fund and maintain accomodation. The American President has some experience of that, because his dad went from house builder to property developer when he built accomodation for war factory workers, as part of federal contractors; he was accused of being a war profiteer.

 

If a large standing army is maintained, the federal government will likely need to expropriate land to set aside for expanded ranges, to compensate for the loss of overseas training facilities. Unless they seize land, there will be a cost to that in compensating land owners,

 

You will miss that tax free American beer you can buy in Bangkok though.

In the end, this will save the US tax payer money.  Defend yourselves losers. 

[Dcheech]

11 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I would love to see no US military overseas.  Total waste of lives, assets & money.  Bring 'em all home 

 

Were you saying that in 2003? It was all great fun, until it puckered up. Flavor of the month,  like neo-isolationism & bros with the Czar is today.

[KhunLA]

6 minutes ago, Dcheech said:

 

Were you saying that in 2003? It was all great fun, until it puckered up. Flavor of the month,  like neo-isolationism & bros with the Czar is today.

I've been saying that since the 1960's.  US military should defend the USA, and ain't nobody attacking since that last big one ended about 80 yrs ago.

 

Along with the 10s of thousands of soldiers lives lost, lives and families destroyed, what a waste of resources & tax dollars 

 

There is no justification for that.  Fight your own battles.

[ronnie50]

12 hours ago, wwest5829 said:

Like WW I and WW II?

You mean the two world wars that the US stayed out of for the first 3 years and 2 years respectively? Seems to be a centuries-old pattern there..

[frank83628]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You should. The world you live in was created by those two events, and those that forget history are condemned to repeat it.

Like the entire US government has since?

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

Like the entire US government has since?

Them and pretty much everyone on here.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, MicroB said:

The DoD basically get kit at a discount price. Development is funded by the DoD through programmes, and then they expect a discount, and manufacturers charge a premium to other buyers, who are generally fiends and allies, because only they get the export licences.

I'm surprised that you out UK allies, though I agree that they are pretty fiendish.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Them and pretty much everyone on here.

Are what........?   🤔

We are not invader supporters like you, so pray tell...

[spidermike007]

Until we get rid of Trump and the plague that he has reigned down upon America and the world, the US simply cannot be trusted anymore. They are a highly unreliable partner, and they are consistently acting against the interests of their allies. 

 

He is causing a new world disorder. 

[Harrisfan]

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Until we get rid of Trump and the plague that he has reigned down upon America and the world, the US simply cannot be trusted anymore. They are a highly unreliable partner, and they are consistently acting against the interests of their allies. 

 

He is causing a new world disorder. 

Life isn't nearly that bad.

[transam]

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Life isn't nearly that bad.

Compared to yours.......?   🤔

[transam]

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Until we get rid of Trump and the plague that he has reigned down upon America and the world, the US simply cannot be trusted anymore. They are a highly unreliable partner, and they are consistently acting against the interests of their allies. 

 

He is causing a new world disorder. 

Though I agree, it is not the USA, parse, it is just the daft twit and his boot licking followers that are running the show that are the problem at the moment...🤗

[spidermike007]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Though I agree, it is not the USA, parse, it is just the daft twit and his boot licking followers that are running the show that are the problem at the moment...🤗

Though I agree with your sentiment 100%, the US currently has the great misfortune of having this absolute goon representing them around the world, so in essence the US is the big problem, until we can figure out a way to get rid of him. 

[Tiger1980]

7 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I've been saying that since the 1960's.  US military should defend the USA, and ain't nobody attacking since that last big one ended about 80 yrs ago.

 

Along with the 10s of thousands of soldiers lives lost, lives and families destroyed, what a waste of resources & tax dollars 

 

There is no justification for that.  Fight your own battles.

So are you saying that the two Iraqi wars were not caused and started by the USA.

And then we had the Afghanistan war, were again the USA at the instigation of Trump retreated causing so many of todays problems.

At the end of the day you have to realize that the world is now a very small place.

[Tiger1980]

7 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

It's time for the gutless Europeans to build a real army and defend themselves.   The US has been subsidizing the defenses of Europe since the end of WW2 at a great expense to the US taxpayer. 

As a European I agree with you, with the exception of a couple of nations the rest 

have had a free ride. Check out on google whose being paying in. And of course a few nations such as the Republic of Ireland pay zero for defence.

[KhunLA]

7 minutes ago, Tiger1980 said:

So are you saying that the two Iraqi wars were not caused and started by the USA.

And then we had the Afghanistan war, were again the USA at the instigation of Trump retreated causing so many of todays problems.

At the end of the day you have to realize that the world is now a very small place.

Not sure what your point is.   Think I was clear, when stating USA didn't need to be in any war, since WW II.

 

None involved an attack on the USA.   Korea, Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other USA supported or was involved in, at any level.  

[Eric Loh]

8 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Not sure what your point is.   Think I was clear, when stating USA didn't need to be in any war, since WW II.

 

None involved an attack on the USA.   Korea, Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other USA supported or was involved in, at any level.  

9-11 was an attack on USA and for the first time, NATO invoked Article 5 to come to the aid of US in their war. 

[KhunLA]

12 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

9-11 was an attack on USA and for the first time, NATO invoked Article 5 to come to the aid of US in their war. 

In which Iraq & Afghanistan had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11.  Nor did they have WMD.

 

Did have plenty of profits to be made, especially since privatizing the war ... GO CHENEY

https://aseannow.com/topic/1325294-politics-pc-un-pc-any-subject-satire-via-meme-or-vid-shorts/page/11/#findComment-19636784

 

[Confuscious]

8 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

It's time for the gutless Europeans to build a real army and defend themselves.   The US has been subsidizing the defenses of Europe since the end of WW2 at a great expense to the US taxpayer. 

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/03/03/norway-receives-three-new-f-35s-as-europeans-rethink-arms-production/
https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/03/03/denmark-picks-nammo-to-restart-ammo-production-at-shuttered-plant/

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/03/03/uk-orders-2-billion-worth-of-air-defense-missiles-for-ukraine/

Good job USA
We go back to the "Cold War" era with all countries distance themselves from a global protection act and start financing their own army.

[0ffshore360]

19 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

As things are going US troops in Europe are looking increasingly like the forces of a hostile power

Sadly true  but only as a result of POTUS rhetoric.

Given Trump's bizzare ideology perhaps Europe would be safer to expell US troops rather than have a potential ( unwilling) enemy in situ ?

[Eric Loh]

9 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

In which Iraq & Afghanistan had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11.  Nor did they have WMD.

 

Did have plenty of profits to be made, especially since privatizing the war ... GO CHENEY

https://aseannow.com/topic/1325294-politics-pc-un-pc-any-subject-satire-via-meme-or-vid-shorts/page/11/#findComment-19636784

 

Suggest you read this link from Imperial War Museum on how the 9-11 lead to a 20 year war in Afghanistan. A war that NATO came to US aid 
 

https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/afghanistan-war-how-did-911-lead-to-a-20-year-war

[SLOWHAND225]

Good, I have zero sympathy for them. They should be worried. 

Bring them home

[Purdey]

Removing US military bases would lead to American arms manufacturers complaining there is nowhere to sell their products, especially if the EU improved their own weapons and military intelligence.

[connda]

13 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Assad gassing his own people

I love this. 
Yesterday:
US - "Assad must go.  The dictator Assad kills his own people."
Syria had elections, Assad troops fought Al-Queda and ISIS.

Today:
Al-Queda comes to power in Syria.
Leader states "No Elections For Next Four Years."
Leader is Al-Queda terrorist with a $10 million USD bounty.
US - Nothing to see here.  Leader Al-Jolani is a good guy, we even took the 10 mil bounty off his head. He even wears a suit!
In the meanwhile, Al-Jolani's Al-Queda are killing Syrian Druse, Alawite, Christians, and anyone connected with the past government.  This is called "A Democracy" and "Peace" and "Freedom."

[connda]

28 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/03/03/norway-receives-three-new-f-35s-as-europeans-rethink-arms-production/
https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/03/03/denmark-picks-nammo-to-restart-ammo-production-at-shuttered-plant/

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/03/03/uk-orders-2-billion-worth-of-air-defense-missiles-for-ukraine/

Good job USA
We go back to the "Cold War" era with all countries distance themselves from a global protection act and start financing their own army.

Says a guy from Spain who obviously wants the US to foot the bill for EU security.  Sorry, I'm a US citizen and my taxes are paying for your protection.  Your government can now protect themselves and foot the da*m bill. 

[transam]

Just now, connda said:

Says a guy from Spain who obviously wants the US to foot the bill for EU security.  Sorry, I'm a US citizen and my taxes are paying for your protection.  Your government can now protect themselves and foot the da*m bill. 

Are your taxes going to go down then.......?  😂

Have you not read about Trumps 25% tariffs that will affect you Americans......🤣