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Clash Over Hampstead Heath: Dog Walkers and Gay Activists Battle Over Cruising Grounds


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I want to meet the genius who came up with the name "Sniffies".

 

Well, not really.  But the name should say it all.  Grindr was funny enough.

 

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So heterosexual copulation is allowed too? Bring out the big guns! 

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2 hours ago, Purdey said:

So heterosexual copulation is allowed too? Bring out the big guns! 

The Police would probably be told to clamp down on that long before the gay stuff.

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7 minutes ago, NE1 said:

Ben Dover

 

The very famous UK porn star !!   alas I think my VHS tapes have perished.

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I hear the practice of ‘Dogging’ requires and is indeed performed for the benefit of a passively participating audience.

 

Why, I wonder, was the term ‘dogging chosen’?

 

Perhaps it tells us something characteristic of the eager audience.

 

 

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I sincerely doubt that this has any support in the LGBQT etc community. Putting aside the creepiness of these people, the reality is that those hookup places are places where people get  mugged or and sexually assaulted.  Every gay counseling group advises of  the risk of visiting such places, even in pairs.

There may have been a time when there was no option for meet and greets, but London has many, many places where people can hook up. There is no need for anyone to be making a spectacle in a park.  No one wants the junkies  who leave their needles, or the hookers  who or heterosexuals who leave their condoms, so why do they want special treatment?

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2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

I sincerely doubt that this has any support in the LGBQT etc community. Putting aside the creepiness of these people, the reality is that those hookup places are places where people get  mugged or and sexually assaulted.  Every gay counseling group advises of  the risk of visiting such places, even in pairs.

There may have been a time when there was no option for meet and greets, but London has many, many places where people can hook up. There is no need for anyone to be making a spectacle in a park.  No one wants the junkies  who leave their needles, or the hookers  who or heterosexuals who leave their condoms, so why do they want special treatment?


Every gay counseling group advises of  the risk of visiting such places, even in pairs.”

 

One of the best things about this forum is the opportunity to learn something new almost every day, often from people with real life experience in the subject t under discussion.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:


Every gay counseling group advises of  the risk of visiting such places, even in pairs.”

 

One of the best things about this forum is the opportunity to learn something new almost every day, often from people with real life experience in the subject t under discussion.

 

 

 

There is a difference between cruising and  engaging in hookups in places that can result in physical harm.  That was my intent. I invite you to visit some of the gay support websites and see for yourself.  The support groups all urge caution  and that there are inherent risks from homophobic assaults, to opportunistic  muggers to sexual assault.

 

Here is an example, in the event that you are considering cruising in a public park;

 

Leave valuables at home

You won’t need your credit cards or a lot of cash. If you take your phone, put it in silent mode and keep it out of sight. Don’t walk around checking Grindr on your new smartphone. Not only will you be advertising it to potential pickpockets, but you may not notice if guys are cruising you.

Keep clear of trouble

There may be occasions when you need to refuse unwanted advances or find yourself in a difficult situation. Try to avoid confrontation, but be prepared to raise your voice or push someone away if they continue trying to do something after you’ve said no. If you’re the victim of a crime, like theft, assault or homophobic abuse, or if you witness something happening, you might feel reluctant to go to the police in case you get asked why you were there.

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, JonnyF said:

If this was hetero sex between a couple of indigenous working class chavs they'd be arrested and charged immediately.

 

Can't be upsetting the minorities. No No No.... that simply wouldn't do.

There was a famous dogging site for straights near where I used to live.  I imagine it's still there, so your point is incorrect. You're also assuming that all gays who go to Hampstead Heath have sex. They do not.

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6 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

You're also assuming that all gays who go to Hampstead Heath have sex. They do not.

so what do they go for?  to walk their dogs?     get real

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1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

I sincerely doubt that this has any support in the LGBQT etc community. Putting aside the creepiness of these people, the reality is that those hookup places are places where people get  mugged or and sexually assaulted.  Every gay counseling group advises of  the risk of visiting such places, even in pairs.

There may have been a time when there was no option for meet and greets, but London has many, many places where people can hook up. There is no need for anyone to be making a spectacle in a park.  No one wants the junkies  who leave their needles, or the hookers  who or heterosexuals who leave their condoms, so why do they want special treatment?

There are a number of instances where people who have met on dating sites come to harm,or are killed, including Grindr. The first advice given is always to meet in a public place. Plus, most are there for company, or hookups, not always sex. 

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6 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

so what do they go for?  to walk their dogs?     get real

Some go for sex, some go to hook up, some just for company. Read some Derek Jarman.

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3 hours ago, johng said:

 

The very famous UK porn star !!   alas I think my VHS tapes have perished.

he was more than a porn star he was a producer too some of his videos were hilarious. Later he became very litigious in an attempt to protect his production style from being copied

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1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Why, I wonder, was the term ‘dogging chosen’?

 

Dogging was coined because gay men when discovered would simply say they were looking for their lost dog.

 

Cottaging is due to the old public toilets that gay men used to meet in resemble(d) cottages.

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1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I hear the practice of ‘Dogging’ requires and is indeed performed for the benefit of a passively participating audience.

 

Why, I wonder, was the term ‘dogging chosen’?

 

Perhaps it tells us something characteristic of the eager audience.

 

 

Terminology

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The Sunday Herald of Scotland wrote in 2003, "The term dogging originated in the early 1970s to describe men who spied on couples having sex outdoors—these men would 'dog' the couples' every move and watch them."[13] An alternative etymology posits dog walking as the origin of the term; audience members, and indeed participants, could use the ordinary exercise of their pets as cover for their sexual assignations.[1]

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8 hours ago, proton said:

Why can't they keep it at home?

exactly my thoughts, its good enough for (most) straight people. So  why do they feel that the laws of common decency do not apply to them?

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