Dog Barking Drama: When Neighbourly Conflicts Turn Threatening

[hotchilli]

20 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The owner acknowledged her dog's barking but argued the letter's claims were exaggerated. She called for a measured approach to the situation, advocating for dialogue and understanding to prevent further escalation.

How about training your dog to shut up

[sambum]

18 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

No it doesn't.

It highlights one nasty neighbour who probably does not like dogs.

 

Dogs bark regularly near my place.

Always, when a 'stranger' is in the area.

That stranger can be a person, another dog, a snake or whatever.

25 years of living here, doors and windows always open, safe because barking dogs keep it that way. 

I used to be a dog lover, but 5 years of living over a stream from a Thai lady with 5 dogs, one of which barks and howls constantly at all hours of the night for no apparent reason other than it can changed my mind. And yes , it is probably the owner that is to blame for not keeping her dogs under control, but she has a shop of sorts adjacent to the "space/yard" where the dogs are confined (I don't think she actually lives there) and says they are "guard dogs"!!! I don't like barking dogs any more, especially when they constantly disturb my sleep !!!

[Chris49]

18 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

No it doesn't.

It highlights one nasty neighbour who probably does not like dogs.

 

Dogs bark regularly near my place.

Always, when a 'stranger' is in the area.

That stranger can be a person, another dog, a snake or whatever.

25 years of living here, doors and windows always open, safe because barking dogs keep it that way. 

No if the dog barks all day due to the owner not at home. I have the same situation where the dog is neglected and not properly cared for. Night time barking is common as well as the dog(s) are left outside at night as well. I would never threaten however, to kill the dog. That is not the solution.

[CK1980]

9 hours ago, daveAustin said:

… or they bark incessantly because that’s what they do. Yours is a typical ‘dog person’ response. What a world to live in! When they recreationally bark like that, they are a menace to everyone bar the owner. I’d bet my bottom dollar that most people in the vicinity of that noisy mutt are pissed off. Thailand’s stray dog problem and relationship with dogs in general (I.e keep them caged, let them intentionally bark all day, biting kids, causing road accidents etc) is third world and one of the downsides to living here. 
 

There’s one by us, albeit probably 100m away, that stays chained up in the back garden and can recreationally yap ALL day. It’s disturbing from a high up condo so must be a nightmare for next door neighbors. Not really the dog’s fault, it is squarely on the selfish owners. Big fines should be dished out to get these selfish people to change their ways or you’ll have more of the above… people taking it into their own hands and killing their dogs.

 

The way it goes in other countries is you get a warning from the authorities followed by a fine, then if it continues you lose the dog. This is how it works in a civilised society to prevent people’s lives from being disturbed by others. Putting up with it because it’s ’good for security’ lol is head in the clouds Thaier than Thai nonsense. 

Not just in 'third world Thailand' as you describe it. Even in these so called 'civilised' countries the problem is just the same. Especially in the countryside. I've lived in rural Portugal where they keep packs of hunting dogs in terrible conditions, barking all day and night. These poor dogs are treated like tools of the trade rather than living beings. I also lived in Spain where a horrible old woman living in the apartment below had a Scottie dog who she used to shove out on the window cill facing the street. I don't think the poor dog had ever been out for a walk and used to high pitch bark at everything that moved from dawn till dusk.. As long as it was indoors between the hours of 11pm-7am there was nothing anyone could do about it. Drove everyone in the street mad. Definitely not a Thailand problem, more like a human problem. People don't know how to look after dogs and don't care that they cause others a problem. My advice, choose where you live carefully. I choose condo's with a no pet policy.   

[flyfrog]

I moved houses 4 times cause of dogs barking and attacking people in the street, told the Thai owner ones when the dog bites my wife or me, I kill the dog, his answer if you kill my dog I kill you, so I moved the next week, no risks, we're just guest in this country

[CCesar]

18 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

No it doesn't.

It highlights one nasty neighbour who probably does not like dogs.

 

Dogs bark regularly near my place.

Always, when a 'stranger' is in the area.

That stranger can be a person, another dog, a snake or whatever.

25 years of living here, doors and windows always open, safe because barking dogs keep it that way. 

Nonsense, its got nothing to do with nasty neighbors, the dog barking issue is pretty much all over and in every village, besides stray animals too. Animals are not to blame, its pure selfishness of people, disrespecting their neighbors. Foreigners and local people alike, which usually can hardly take care of themselves, claiming to be animal lovers, keeping pets prisoners in cages and mostly a rather tiny area around the house. Dogs in the mall, convenient stores, restaurants and so on, it's disgusting and totally unhygienic. Dogs causing accidents chasing people, being bitten or killed, but of course they have been always lovely, harmless little doggies, which have never harmed or annoyed anyone. Will never change unless people will be made responsible, which will most likely not happen in the near future if ever. A little common sense/courtesy would go a long way, but that certainly shouldn't be expected.

[sambum]

2 hours ago, Spock said:

Largely because Thais do not believe in neutering animals so the dog populate grows. Plus they basically only like puppies and the adult dogs too often end up looking into their old home from the outside. This is a different case involving someone actually keeping the adult dogs but allowing them to bark all day. I wonder if the dogs are forced to lead their entire lives outdoors, hence lack the control that owners might exert if the animals were allowed to live indoors. One way or another, Thais in general are not among the world's most knowledgeable pet owners.

Have to agree! In the West the dog is treated as one of the family, and in many cases, have their own "bed" in the house. How many Thais do you know allow their "pets"/  dogs to sleep in the house? Mostly they are put outside and left free to wander, bark, howl or get into fights over territory with other dogs that  have been forced to live outside.

I am originally from the UK, and we had a Labrador that due to us both working,  had to leave all day in our sizeable back garden, but it was tended to and cared for at lunchtimes by a relative. Unbeknown to us, as soon as we left the house it started barking. Rather than bring it to our attention our friendly neighbours reported it to the police, and the consequent visit by them left us in no doubt that our dog was disturbing the peace and we had to get something done about it, or the dog would be impounded! The solution was simple - we got another dog so they kept each other company and the barking ceased.

It may be worth noting that in the UK you never hear dogs barking at night (for any length of time) or the owners will be told to do something about it, or their dog(s) taken from them

[steven100]

nothing wrong with owning a dog in a condo, a community estate or wherever,   so long as the owner cares for the dog properly and respects others living next door and nearby.    If the dog has food and water, and gets some exercise and correct attention every now and then it will not bark unnecessarily all day and night.  

[CCesar]

2 minutes ago, sambum said:

Have to agree! In the West the dog is treated as one of the family, and in many cases, have their own "bed" in the house. How many Thais do you know that have dogs that allow the dogs to sleep in the house? Mostly they are put outside and left free to wander, bark, howl or get into fights over territory with other dogs that  have been forced to live outside.

I am originally from the UK, and we had a Labrador that due to us both working,  had to leave all day in our sizeable back garden, but tended to and cared for at lunchtimes by a relative. Unbeknown to us, as soon as we left the house it started barking. Rather than bring it to our attention our friendly neighbours reported it to the police, and the consequent visit by them left us in no doubt that our dog was disturbing the peace and we had to get something done about it, or the dog would be impounded! The solution was simple - we got another dog so they kept each other company and the barking ceased.

It may be worth noting that in the UK you never hear dogs barking at night (for any length of time) for the reasons mentioned above.   

I guess you haven't been around Thailand much lately, because Thai take dogs around malls, restaurants and all sorts of other places in baby strollers, all dressed up , certainly many having them in the bedrooms too. Only up north east it seems a little more civilized, where I actually saw signs with no dogs allowed in parks, and I guess places being near  Laos keeps the numbers of stray dogs down too.

[sambum]

12 minutes ago, CCesar said:

I guess you haven't been around Thailand much lately, because Thai take dogs around malls, restaurants and all sorts of other places in baby strollers, all dressed up , certainly many having them in the bedrooms too. Only up north east it seems a little more civilized, where I actually saw signs with no dogs allowed in parks, and I guess places being near  Laos keeps the numbers of stray dogs down too.

 

I've been here for 20 years, but admittedly, do not travel much! I was surprised however to see a dog and cats  roaming the corridors of our local Government Hospital!

 

The type of dogs you refer to are what  used to be referred to as "lap dogs" as they were mostly kept by ladies for their "pleasure" - mollycoddled yappy little rat like creatures that can hardly be called "dogs".

 

The ones I am talking about are the larger dogs that are allowed to run around freely at night, forming gangs and alliances and fighting for territory etc - soi dogs do the same but these dogs supposedly have "owners".

[Cabradelmar]

21 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

responds to stimuli like passing dogs.

So constantly.

[black tabby12345]

2 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Before attempting to write learn how to spell.

 

That thing is a known troll.

He looks so busy badmouthing that he has no time learn anything positive...

 

[gargamon]

4 hours ago, schultzlivgthai said:

50 dogs living near or at the landfill, starving, fighting and mating constantly

Are you talking about the Brit's in Pattaya?

[save the frogs]

12 hours ago, sambum said:

I used to be a dog lover,

exactly.

are dogs over-rated?

maybe people should just be allowed to keep cats as pets.

cats are quiet. 

[Thingamabob]

2 hours ago, steven100 said:

You have to see a psychologists asap.  You seem to think that if someone doesn't agree with a dog barking all night then they must hate dogs.       

Well done. Enjoy the rest of your day.

[Tropicalevo]

11 hours ago, daveAustin said:

… or they bark incessantly because that’s what they do. Yours is a typical ‘dog person’ response. What a world to live in! When they recreationally bark like that, they are a menace to everyone bar the owner. I’d bet my bottom dollar that most people in the vicinity of that noisy mutt are pissed off. Thailand’s stray dog problem and relationship with dogs in general (I.e keep them caged, let them intentionally bark all day, biting kids, causing road accidents etc) is third world and one of the downsides to living here. 
 

There’s one by us, albeit probably 100m away, that stays chained up in the back garden and can recreationally yap ALL day. It’s disturbing from a high up condo so must be a nightmare for next door neighbors. Not really the dog’s fault, it is squarely on the selfish owners. Big fines should be dished out to get these selfish people to change their ways or you’ll have more of the above… people taking it into their own hands and killing their dogs.

 

The way it goes in other countries is you get a warning from the authorities followed by a fine, then if it continues you lose the dog. This is how it works in a civilised society to prevent people’s lives from being disturbed by others. Putting up with it because it’s ’good for security’ lol is head in the clouds Thaier than Thai nonsense. 

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1354505-dogs-bark-brings-rescuers-to-5m-king-cobra-under-car-bonnet/

[steven100]

5 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Well done. Enjoy the rest of your day.

Thank you ....  shall do.   

[steven100]

38 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

That thing is a known troll.

He looks so busy badmouthing that he has no time learn anything positive...

 

Best you learn how to write a sentence correctly before badmouthing other members hey   !!

[Pouatchee]

19 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

That is a dog?

 

Can't fix stupid outdated thinking. A dog has to be a horse for some... idjit!

[CK1980]

52 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

exactly.

are dogs over-rated?

maybe people should just be allowed to keep cats as pets.

cats are quiet. 

No not at all. Mans best friend. Much more loyal and useful than cats. I love cats too by the way, and they are much easier to look after. But it's the people who are the problem, not the animals. I've had many dogs in my time and they were always brilliant pets and quiet too. Never caused a problem to anyone.

[NorthernRyland]

3 hours ago, flyfrog said:

I moved houses 4 times cause of dogs barking and attacking people in the street, told the Thai owner ones when the dog bites my wife or me, I kill the dog, his answer if you kill my dog I kill you, so I moved the next week, no risks, we're just guest in this country

 

Was there a credible threat the dog was actually going to do this? If so you had a choice to poison the dog in advance or wait until there's an attack and then poison it later. Once you announced your intentions however you forfeited that option because you would likely be accused and face serious heat.

 

Btw, was this one of those ghetto housing projects or row houses with lower class Thais? Those should always be avoided at all costs anyways.

[NorthernRyland]

3 hours ago, CK1980 said:

Not just in 'third world Thailand' as you describe it. Even in these so called 'civilised' countries the problem is just the same. Especially in the countryside. I've lived in rural Portugal where they keep packs of hunting dogs in terrible conditions, barking all day and night. These poor dogs are treated like tools of the trade rather than living beings. I also lived in Spain where a horrible old woman living in the apartment below had a Scottie dog who she used to shove out on the window cill facing the street. I don't think the poor dog had ever been out for a walk and used to high pitch bark at everything that moved from dawn till dusk.. As long as it was indoors between the hours of 11pm-7am there was nothing anyone could do about it. Drove everyone in the street mad. Definitely not a Thailand problem, more like a human problem. People don't know how to look after dogs and don't care that they cause others a problem. My advice, choose where you live carefully. I choose condo's with a no pet policy.   

 

This is totally true. 3rd world is a state of mind. Thailand has people who live no better than dogs themselves but also very kind and respectful family oriented people that put some of the swine you come across in the US to shame.