Russell Brand criminally charged with rape...

[Nick Carter icp]

9 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

COVID itself might not be in the news but there are still things being exposed that were covered up at the time, from fauci emails to Handcock whatsapp messages, etc. He talks about  what's not reported about the Ukraine war, trump, democrats. I was just givng a couple of examples, these allegations didn't appear yesterday.

Brand had 6 million + subscribers on YouTube, millions of live viewer per episode, maybe he wasn't mainstream like Rogan, but to say he is irrelevant is wrong. Still on YouTube, but can speak freely on rumble

 

 

   So, who are the people that want Russel gone ?

Who are the people behind the "false" allegations of him committing crimes 

[Stiddle Mump]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I know a different Country ,  but didn't Trump get found to be guilty based on 20 year old stories ?

So did that English prince. You know. Epstein's buddy. Gave away 12 million of tax-payer dosh to shut someone up.

[Nick Carter icp]

12 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

 

Brand had 6 million + subscribers on YouTube, millions of live viewer per episode, maybe he wasn't mainstream like Rogan, but to say he is irrelevant is wrong. Still on YouTube, but can speak freely on rumble

 

 

   6 million plus subscribers to his You tube video site

63 000 Viewers watched this video 

 

   63 000 views, 4 months ago 

[Cameroni]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   He sort if left the mainstream and went underground .

He lost lots of popularity after the "Manuel " phone call .

His Youtube videos viewing figures are also declining  , he used to get 10 Million views for his videos  , now the viewing figures are on the 100s of thousands 

 

He was banned from youtube and had to migrate to Rumble. The reason was the Covid stuff.

 

You're right though he underwent a major transformation, from a darling of the left, writing for the Guardian and New Statesman, feted by Ed Milliband, he relocated to the US and popped up at Mar a Lago, became a Trump supporter and born again Christian, firmly on the right.

 

You might say he changed with the weather and put on whatever clothes were the flavour of the day. One day golden platform boots, another day Jesus sandles.

 

He was not stupid, he made a fortune, he had a fast mind and had deep insights, but there was something seriously wrong with the guy and you could see a mile away when he first started out.

[JackGats]

2 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

That's the 'kicker'? No they can't, as there will be no physical evidence like DNA, no forensic evidence after 20 years, it will be a he said she said?

After 20 years memory gets shaky, even if they can pin him at a location where the woman was, and even if they had sex, he will say consensual.

The prosecution has to prove, he is guilty, beyond reasonable doubt.

 

Alas no, the prosectution hardly has to prove anything. It will be "victim should be believed", period.

[FriscoKid]

30 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

He was banned from youtube and had to migrate to Rumble. The reason was the Covid stuff.

 

He's still on YouTube and still has nearly 7,000,000 followers there. He just posted a video there 13 hours ago. Still attacking American politics and American celebrities. That's all he does. He wouldn't dare say anything bad about any of the powerful people in the UK. He's too scared. 
 

What actually happened on YouTube though is that they demonetized his channel a year or two ago so that he can't make any money from it. That's why he moved over to Rumble. Having said that, though, he still posts incessantly on YouTube anyway. He can't help himself.

[FriscoKid]

2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

I doubt police charge people unless at least 50% chance of conviction. There will be 3rd party witnesses I would say. 

Possibly also audio recordings and maybe even some video footage too. 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Never liked him. Seems like a real bandwagon jumper. If Woke made a comeback he'd be woker than woke. He's a chameleon. 

 

But I do find it interesting that he is suddenly public enemy number 1 for a few relatively minor allegations whilst at the same time the government is opposing an enquiry into the Rotherham rape gangs.

 

I'm sure it has nothing to do with his current brand of politics.  

 

I suspect he will agree to shut up in exchange for a leftist sentence, sorry I mean a suspended sentence. 

Russel Brand is charged with rape.

 

That’s not ‘a minor allegation’ even if wedded to your feeble attempt to wedge your off topic fixations into the thread.

 

[Cameroni]

15 minutes ago, JackGats said:

Alas no, the prosectution hardly has to prove anything. It will be "victim should be believed", period.

 

In this case they should be believed I think. There's just too many accusations going all the way back to 2006, there is a consistency here. 

 

Plus the way Brand has behaved all his life with total disregard for laws and rules, and an admitted sex addiction.

 

I mean normally one would wait for the trial, but in Brand's case I'd make an exception. He's guilty.

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I know a different Country ,  but didn't Trump get found to be guilty based on 20 year old stories ?

Yes, in a political witch hunt.... as I said previously, there's alway a sex scandal that conviently pops up when someone is ruffling feathers. Always from years from yeas ago, its a wonder why these accusations never surface at the time.

[RSD1]

More conspiracies. Brand also went on a bizarre rant about the Government, Britain’s legal system and corruption.

 

Detective Superintendent Andy Furphy said: "The women who have made reports continue to receive support from specially trained officers.

 

"The Met's investigation remains open and detectives ask anyone who has been affected by this case, or anyone who has any information, to come forward and speak with police.

 

"A dedicated team of investigators is available via email at CIT[at]met.police.uk.

 

"Support is also available by contacting the independent charity, Rape Crisis at 24/7 Rape and Sexual Abuse Support Line."

 

Jaswant Narwal, of the Crown Prosecution Service, said: "We have today authorised the Metropolitan Police to charge Russell Brand with a number of sexual offences.

 

"We carefully reviewed the evidence after a police investigation into allegations made following the broadcast of a Channel 4 documentary in September 2023.

 

"We have concluded that Russell Brand should be charged with offences including rape, sexual assault and indecent assault.

 

"These relate to reported non-recent offences between 1999 and 2005, involving four women.

 

"He will appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court for a first hearing on Friday May 2, 2025.

 

"The Crown Prosecution Service reminds everyone that criminal proceedings are active, and the defendant has the right to a fair trial.

 

"It is extremely important that there be no reporting, commentary or sharing of information online which could in any way prejudice these proceedings."

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/34288679/russell-brand-breaks-silence/

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do you have any evidence that the  girls threw themselves at him ? 

When this surfaced a years or so ago it was said one girls mother took her and dropped her off, there were various other rumours floating round.

He was well known in the lat 90s & 2000s to be sahgging loads of chicks, even jokes about him being a ' 'great wordaman' in tabloid newspapers

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

When this surfaced a years or so ago it was said one girls mother took her and dropped her off, there were various other rumours floating round.

He was well known in the lat 90s & 2000s to be sahgging loads of chicks, even jokes about him being a ' 'great wordaman' in tabloid newspapers

 

   I did mean the girls who have made the allegations .

Do you have any evidence the the girls who made the accusations "threw themselves at him " ?

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, BLMFem said:

And in Russia Putin's political opponents keep flying out of windows or mysteriously getting poisoned but on this issue you don't question his innocence at all.

Why is that?

 

PS. Rhetorical question - I know why.

WTF has Putin got to do with anything? Is that all you can say? ,it was boring when captain emoji was saying. Its boring now too

[RSD1]

This is a criminal case. There is no financial benefit to anyone resulting from the outcome of this prosecution. Why would anyone question the intentions of the women? They are putting their own personal safety on the line by coming forward, full stop. If the allegations are true then they are certainly doing the right thing and making big personal sacrifices. And if the allegations are false then they are only screwing up their own lives for no good reason. I can't see any benefit to these women coming forward, whether he is guilty or not. Either way they lose. So the conspiracy theories suggesting they are lying or fabricating stories makes no sense on any level.

[JAG]

His best defence would probably be to take a leaf out of the late ( and much missed) Andrew Sach's book:

 

"Qué? I know nothing. I come from Barcelona!"

 

Vile creature (Brand, not Sachs)!

[RSD1]

Just now, JAG said:

His best defence would probably be to take a leaf out of the late ( and much missed) Andrew Sach's book:

 

"Qué? I know nothing. I come from Barcelona!"

 

Of maybe he will be room mates with Tommy Robinson pretty soon.

[GanDoonToonPet]

1 hour ago, RSD1 said:

This is a criminal case. There is no financial benefit to anyone resulting from the outcome of this prosecution. Why would anyone question the intentions of the women? They are putting their own personal safety on the line by coming forward, full stop. If the allegations are true then they are certainly doing the right thing and making big personal sacrifices. And if the allegations are false then they are only screwing up their own lives for no good reason. I can't see any benefit to these women coming forward, whether he is guilty or not. Either way they lose. So the conspiracy theories suggesting they are lying or fabricating stories makes no sense on any level.

 

Read the news much?

 

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Eleanor Williams (born 26 November 2000) is an English convicted criminal, from Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria, England who made false claims of multiple serious crimes, including accusations of trafficking, rape by a group of men of Asian descent, blackmail, and physical violence, none of which were found to have occurred. Following her 2022 trial, Williams was found guilty on nine counts of perverting the course of justice, contrary to English common law. She was sentenced to eight and a half years in prison.

 

The fictitious claims spread by Williams on the internet had lasting impacts, including multiple attempted suicides, a rise in racially motivated violence against the Asian community, and contributed to aspects of the Online Safety Act 2023, which criminalises the spread of false, harmful information online.

 

Eleanor Williams (criminal)

 

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Woman jailed for 10 years for making series of false rape claims

 

Jemma Beale, 25, from west London, invented four separate incidents of sexual assault, one of which led to man being wrongly convicted.

 

Jemma Beale claimed she had been seriously sexually assaulted by six men and raped by nine, all strangers, in four different incidents over three years.

 

The 25-year-old was found guilty in July at Southwark crown court of four counts of perjury and four counts of perverting the course of justice.

 

Sentencing her on Thursday, the judge, Nicholas Loraine-Smith, said: “This trial has revealed, what was then not obvious, that you are a very, very convincing liar and you enjoy being seen as a victim.

 

woman jailed 10 years false rape claims

 

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Swindon woman jailed for falsely accusing stranger of rape

 

A 26-year-old woman has been jailed after falsely accusing a delivery driver of raping her.

 

Sophie James, of Frobisher Drive, Walcot, Swindon, pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice after "fabricating" the crime in August 2019.

 

Det Con Chris Hughes of Wiltshire Police said the impact her behaviour had on the stranger she falsely accused "should not be underestimated".

 

She was sentenced at Swindon Crown Court to 14 months in prison.

 

Police said James originally reported a takeaway driver had attended her address to deliver food but instead forced his way into her property and raped her.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-64536882

 

I could go on...these are just recently and in the UK!

[frank83628]

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Women have been making allegations against Russell Brand long before he appeared on Youtube. 

 

"Four women have made allegations of sexual assaults between 2006 and 2013 as part of an investigation by The Times, The Sunday Times and Channel 4 Dispatches - allegations he denies.

 

Since publication, The Times said it has been contacted by "several women" with claims about Brand, but said their allegations have not yet been investigated and "will now be rigorously checked"."

 

https://news.sky.com/story/met-police-respond-to-russell-brand-claims-and-urge-sexual-assault-victims-to-contact-them-12962142

No, he became popular on YouTube, speaking out about COVID,Trump, Ukraine, then the claims surfaced, which supposedly happened 20h yrs ago

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, RSD1 said:

This is a criminal case. There is no financial benefit to anyone resulting from the outcome of this prosecution. Why would anyone question the intentions of the women? They are putting their own personal safety on the line by coming forward, full stop. If the allegations are true then they are certainly doing the right thing and making big personal sacrifices. And if the allegations are false then they are only screwing up their own lives for no good reason. I can't see any benefit to these women coming forward, whether he is guilty or not. Either way they lose. So the conspiracy theories suggesting they are lying or fabricating stories makes no sense on any level.

Why wait 20+ years

[brewsterbudgen]

11 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Why wait 20+ years

I'm no fan of Mr Brand, but I agree; 20 years is a long time and no one can claim to have perfect memories.  I suspect that like Kevin Spacey, he will get off even if it comes to trial, which I doubt.  

[rumak]

14 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I look at it from the point of view that the women that fall for such lies, trickery and pressure must be rather thick in the brain department. Not that that's any excuse for actual rape- consent is consent, but perhaps guys should start getting it in writing.

 

I have always used a fantastic device which is inplanted in my left testicle .  Just as I am about to perform a pleasurable act with a person identifying as female ... i ask them to shout out loud ,  " **** me !  **** me now ! "   Kind of like play acting 😎. 

If they don't play along,  I leave .

 

So you see....... I have  the consent on microchip .  Obviously I am not rich and famous (yet ) .  But if that were to happen , and i dared to share some of the truth   conspiracy theories against the "wrong people "  and then got brought up on 20 year old allegations,  I would whip out the proof !

Might be a bit embarrasing when I have to show  them where the evidence is .😅

[RSD1]

35 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Why wait 20+ years

 

I’m not a fan of conspiracy theories unless there’s some basis for them. Just pulling things out of a hat, asking “why this” or “why that,” without logic or common sense doesn’t get us anywhere. I don’t have the answer, and neither does anyone else except the prosecutors and law enforcement involved. But I assume there’s a good reason we’re at this point, or the case wouldn’t have moved forward.

 

Most likely, the women didn’t feel safe coming forward individually because they didn’t want their lives torn apart. But once they realized others had similar experiences and they could come forward together, they were probably more emboldened. We’re all making assumptions here because we don’t know the full story, but there’s likely a reasonable explanation, possibly shame, fear, or not wanting to derail their own lives.

 

Also, many rape cases come down to one person’s word against another’s. But when four women come forward independently with corroborating stories, the case becomes stronger and is taken more seriously.

 

As for the evidence, I would assume there’s more than just testimony. If charges are being brought two decades later, there must be something more substantial than just personal accounts. We’ll have to wait and see. But I wouldn’t second guess the prosecution or dismiss the possibility of a conviction simply because the alleged crimes happened 20 years ago.

 

Murder is murder, rape is rape, and a crime is still a crime, regardless of how much time has passed.

[rumak]

11 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

But I assume there’s a good reason we’re at this point, or the case wouldn’t have moved forward.

 

actually , many people know the reason .   but y'all just call those people names like conspiracy theorist or nutcakes or whatever .  

And then go on for pages and pages,  day after day,   repeating the same old ..........

 

brainwashed ............... and in denial .  (yes you are .   no i'm not ....)

ha ha ha .     

 

and the rush for sad emojis begins 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, rumak said:

 

actually , many people know the reason .   but y'all just call those people names like conspiracy theorist or nutcakes or whatever .  

And then go on for pages and pages,  day after day,   repeating the same old ..........

 

brainwashed ............... and in denial .  (yes you are .   no i'm not ....)

ha ha ha .     

 

and the rush for sad emojis begins 

 

    Pardon : Could you say that again ?

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

actually , many people know the reason .   but y'all just call those people names like conspiracy theorist or nutcakes or whatever .  

And then go on for pages and pages,  day after day,   repeating the same old ..........

 

brainwashed ............... and in denial .  (yes you are .   no i'm not ....)

ha ha ha .     

 

and the rush for sad emojis begins 

Well for a start, they only think they know the reason.

 

The reason(s) will be presented to a jury in an open court of law.

[BritManToo]

36 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

many rape cases come down to one person’s word against another’s. But when four women come forward independently with corroborating stories, the case becomes stronger and is taken more seriously.

When it takes 20 years to get round to reporting a rape, it never happened.

Put a limit of a week on reporting such crimes, when there's still evidence to find!

[it is what it is]

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

When it takes 20 years to get round to reporting a rape, it never happened.

Put a limit of a week on reporting such crimes, when there's still evidence to find!

 

too much of a generalisation, in the uk rapes and sexual assaults have been reported at the time but ignored, or not investigated by the police, as has happened very recently women assaulted by Al Fayad

[johng]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Put a limit of a week on reporting such crimes, when there's still evidence to find!

Yes agree..a crime of this seriousness has to be reported quickly as any evidence is gone pretty quick...unless you do a Monica ..but even then how do you proove or disprove consent ?

Russell Brand had said that all his liaisons were consential..

[Cameroni]

I always thought the penalties for rape were way too severe, how can you square a rapist getting more jail time than a person who killed someone? It's bizarre.