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On 4/10/2025 at 3:44 AM, novacova said:

China of course, if Xi doesn’t come forward then China’s economy will collapse and Xi will be out.

China is hyper efficient and authoritarian they have a massive untouched internal market and maufacture a huge range of things America wants (tesla car and Apple Mac for a start.)

US hasn't a hope - they have no industrial base and a market that expects goods at cChinese prices and a growing percentage of the population that want him gone.

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On 4/10/2025 at 10:08 AM, Yagoda said:

Thats a garbage in, garbage out answer as usual from Ai

Aww have some self respect for your ilk your hero trump sure seems busy carving out exemptions lmao 🤣 he’s folded allready also I take umbrage at the way the survey was worded it should say  trump not the USA 

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2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Trump can barely negotiate his way out of a paper bag. And he is a poor businessman. He bankrupted five companies, and 17 others failed. Most of his fortune was stolen or grifted. He is headed for a bruising. He severely over estimates his ability to bring manufacturing back to the US. He is stuck in a state of nostalgia about what the US used to be. Not gonna happen again. 

 

Not making America great, he is too busy making America more  irrelevant. A true, unstable ignoramus. 

totally agree, in addition, he is opening the gateways to BRICS decoupling of the dollar in the trade world.  Saw a clip this AM Japan and China have sold over 2 trillion dollars worth of US govt bonds and have agreed to use Yuan and Yen for trade deals.  Pretty soon, the other BRICS countries too will benefit from Trumps tariffs, including I would like to know HOW it is POSSIBLE to negotiate trade deals with 50-75 countries anything this year as most agreements take years even between friends!  Also note the value of the $ sinking even against the Baht!  

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Posted
1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Trump is a fascist.

By who?

By congress of course.

For what?

Take your pick. 

Why?

To mitigate the damage he's done. It might be the only way.

To get there where congressional republicans would actually do this, his approval numbers overall would need to get to a bare bones maga cult only 30 percent.

 

'It’s already in the cards': Trump impeachment urged by WSJ editorial board member

 

 

They need to wait until Democrats resume control of the Senate. Otherwise it's a total waste of time and money.

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3 hours ago, kwilco said:

China is hyper efficient and authoritarian they have a massive untouched internal market and maufacture a huge range of things America wants (tesla car and Apple Mac for a start.)

US hasn't a hope - they have no industrial base and a market that expects goods at cChinese prices and a growing percentage of the population that want him gone.

Youve been wrong about everything else you post. Why not be wrong about politics too

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Posted
12 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

They need to wait until Democrats resume control of the Senate. Otherwise it's a total waste of time and money.

Probably but at the accelerated rate Trump is ruining the country, who knows?

Posted
24 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Probably but at the accelerated rate Trump is ruining the country, who knows?

If the Senate won't make an impeachment stick then it's senseless.

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2 hours ago, Tug said:

Aww have some self respect for your ilk your hero trump sure seems busy carving out exemptions lmao 🤣 he’s folded allready also I take umbrage at the way the survey was worded it should say  trump not the USA 

What does that mean? If you are spewing more Trump Hate Madness, try to be coherent.

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4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Trump can barely negotiate his way out of a paper bag. And he is a poor businessman. He bankrupted five companies, and 17 others failed. Most of his fortune was stolen or grifted. He is headed for a bruising. He severely over estimates his ability to bring manufacturing back to the US. He is stuck in a state of nostalgia about what the US used to be. Not gonna happen again. 

 

Not making America great, he is too busy making America more  irrelevant. A true, unstable ignoramus. 

amen to that!

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Posted
3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

What does that mean? If you are spewing more Trump Hate Madness, try to be coherent.

Was several day ago you reacted to some thread with the comment don’t bother me now I’m concentrating on another part of the world……just what would you expect a person to think?to me that particular comment reeks of inter office communication……..so yup have more respect for your profession……kapish?and yup I don’t like trust fund baby’s who insult pows and betray everything my country stands for.

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3 minutes ago, Tug said:

Was several day ago you reacted to some thread with the comment don’t bother me now I’m concentrating on another part of the world……just what would you expect a person to think?to me that particular comment reeks of inter office communication……..so yup have more respect for your profession……kapish?and yup I don’t like trust fund baby’s who insult pows and betray everything my country stands for.

1. Who is a trust fund baby?

2. Who insults pows (sic)?

3. What is my profession?

4. What is inter office communication

 

Your incoherence and delusions are getting worse.

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4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

1. Who is a trust fund baby?

2. Who insults pows (sic)?

3. What is my profession?

4. What is inter office communication

 

Your incoherence and delusions are getting worse.

Aww ain’t it cute reduced to this kind of lame response 

Posted
On 4/10/2025 at 10:01 AM, Yagoda said:

I would say a good 80% of the analyses I have seen take that position


The 80% majority appear not to understand the enormity of the issue, nor the personalities and cultures involved in this scenario.

China will not blink first.  China also appears to be selling US bonds overnight from its massive stockpile.

China selling U.S. bonds = higher interest rates, more expensive borrowing, and possibly slower U.S. economic growth — like putting a little brake on the US economy.

Trump has picked a fight with the wrong guys.  China doesn't like being bullied so it appears to be retaliating.  And there's nothing the US or anybody else can do to stop them.
 

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The game-changing geopolitical event last week was the near collapse of the immense $29tn ­market in US government debt, threatening the stability of the American and global financial system and the safe-haven status of dollar assets.

The US president boasted as the collapse unfolded that world leaders were queueing to “kiss his arse”. Twelve hours later, he was in the same humiliatingly weak position as the then British prime minister Liz Truss found herself after her tax-slashing “mini-budget” in 2022. The markets had forced him to pause for 90 days the swingeing range of “reciprocal” tariffs that he announced on what he proclaimed “liberation day”; instead he lowered all of them, bar that on China, to 10%.

The markets sighed relief, but “liberation’” had boomeranged. It was Trump who was imprisoned. He and his sycophants insisted it was all part of a grand plan. Nonsense – he is economically and politically gored.

He dare not risk reimposing the same tariffs when the “pause” ends without risking an even worse US debt crisis. Worse, he has killed the prospect of the rest of the world buying the avalanche of new US government debt that will follow from the

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/13/what-does-china-really-think-about-trump-they-know-about-humiliation-and-wont-take-it-from-him

Posted
11 minutes ago, Tug said:

Aww ain’t it cute reduced to this kind of lame response 

glad that you copy my phrasing, makes you seem more intelligent

Posted
5 hours ago, sharot724 said:

Trump exempts phones, computers and other electronics from his tariffs on Chinese goods

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20xn626y81o


Do we think this is a partial cave-in...?  It's certainly not holding the line defiantly, is it?

Apparently, Peter Navarro (and his alter ego Ron Varo... ) have been sidelined in the White House and Scott Bessent, Secretary of the Treasury (and a rather sensible-sounding chap) is the main contact negotiating international tarriff agreements and advising Trump now.

 

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