19 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Definitely an op, in my opinion. It was brilliant in the sense that by leveraging people's compulsive antagonism towards Trump, just like that, 90% of normies became conspiracy theorists.

Im not sure understand your conclusion? 

 

Definitely an op? 

14 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Im not sure understand your conclusion? 

 

Definitely an op? 

 

Are you familiar with the notion of irregular warfare? In a nutshell, these terms refer to narrative deployments and psychological operations. Trump and his team have been engaging in them just as much as any other administration, albeit pursuing different goals.

 

Here is Trump's former Secretary of Defense Chris Miller, explaining that irregular warfare basically entails moving public opinion from a point A to a point B. And yes, that entails staged operations, much more than most people realise or are willing to entertain.

 

 

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I say jail them. At least they'll stop asking inconvenient questions.

 

 

No need for that. Could be that they were vaccinating at a time  when covid was taking off .. really not that hard to believe given the world at that time and if your inference is correct it would surely be replicated across the world. 

 

49 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Definitely an op, in my opinion. It was brilliant in the sense that by leveraging people's compulsive antagonism towards Trump, just like that, 90% of normies became conspiracy theorists.

I doubt that. I think that conspiracy theory is held by few and not a large percentage of normal folk. 

5 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

I doubt that. I think that conspiracy theory is held by few and not a large percentage of normal folk. 

 

There were literally millions of rabid anti-Trumpers who, often without even realising it, became de facto conspiracy theorists by investigating every single detail of the event in their endeavour to undermine Trump. This operation was brilliant in the sense that it led these people to willingly and diligently take a crash course in independent thinking and research.

 

 

13 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

if your inference is correct it would surely be replicated across the world. 

 

 

It was.

On 4/18/2025 at 7:12 PM, NorthernRyland said:

You got this perfectly backwards. The so-called conspiracy theories are on the rise because people are able to communicate more freely now and don't rely solely on centralized media as their main source of truth.

Of course. 

 

And the demographic well represented here that grew up with nothing but Anglo empire media find all of this conspiracy stuff a little overwhelming. 

 

I used to think conspiracies were mostly nonsense too until I started losing arguments. And I had to reckon with myself. 

 

When we were shown that animation of the cave where Binladen supposedly lived, I realized that we are an empire just like the USSR. And the empire makes the news and we are expected to believe it. Period. That cave drawing was almost cartoonishly ridiculous. But we were expected to believe it and surely the original poster of this thread believes it to this day.

Conspiracy theorists all share an inability to conceive big numbers and differentiate them from small ones – conspiracy theories thrive in echo chambers. Like-minded groups reinforce shared beliefs, filter out dissent, and make those beliefs resistant to fact-checking. People often self-select into these communities seeking validation, identity, or belonging, especially during periods of uncertainty. Social-media algorithms then amplify this by feeding users more of the same content, creating filter bubbles. When challenged, members tend to reject opposing facts and double down (the “backfire effect”). The result is polarisation, radicalisation, and growing distrust of media, government, and science. This is an active process driven by psychological and social needs, not simple ignorance.

5 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Let's go back to the shadow question, which remains unanswered. The information below challenges the premise outlined above. It is a specific, rational question and therefore only a specific, rational answer can disprove it and its implications.

 

 

  

 

I was always more concerned about how the cameras had worked.

They weren't sealed (dust and air/vacuum), the film wasn't special (extreme temperature ranges) and the cameras had no viewfinders and manual focus.

 

How did they take all those perfectly framed and in focus pictures with no dust specs?

How did the camera mechanics work so well in vacuum?

How did the film work with those extreme temperature and pressure changes?

8 hours ago, Harsh Jones said:

And the demographic well represented here that grew up with nothing but Anglo empire media

 

 

8 hours ago, Harsh Jones said:

Of course. 

 

And the demographic well represented here that grew up with nothing but Anglo empire media find all of this conspiracy stuff a little overwhelming. 

 

I used to think conspiracies were mostly nonsense too until I started losing arguments. And I had to reckon with myself. 

 

When we were shown that animation of the cave where Binladen supposedly lived, I realized that we are an empire just like the USSR. And the empire makes the news and we are expected to believe it. Period. That cave drawing was almost cartoonishly ridiculous. But we were expected to believe it and surely the original poster of this thread believes it to this day.

 

The media industrial complex is the most powerful tool the establishment has controlled and wielded over a century. Those days are, fortunately, over.

18 hours ago, johng said:

This is a very interesting documentary 

and don't forget to inform everyone that the video was produced by Mazzucco:

 

Some criticism was directed to Mazzucco after his decision, starting in September 2008, to publicize an alternative cancer therapy based on sodium bicarbonate proposed by Italian ex-doctor Tullio Simoncini. Said therapy is currently unproven, and Simoncini was expelled from the Italian Medical Association after he was tried and found guilty of fraud and manslaughter, since a patient died, allegedly as result of Simoncini's treatment.

 

Mazzucco must be some kind of miracle worker having disproved so many things while having zero training in any of the relevant fields.

13 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

and don't forget to inform everyone that the video was produced by Mazzucco:

Well you just did..and don't forget that  Alex Jones didn't kill any of the Sandy Hook kids  but that 'everyone' assumes he was fined in court  1 billion dollars for that crime...Mazzucco  didn't kill anyone either, trying to link him to a cancer patient death is  quite lame

in fact I'd call it despicable IMHO  but par for the course.

9 minutes ago, johng said:

trying to link him to a cancer patient death is  quite lame

I linked him only to spreading misinformation.... you're over reacting.

9 minutes ago, johng said:

in fact I'd call it despicable IMHO  but par for the course.

LOL..... sensitive about your no talent 'heroes'?

8 minutes ago, johng said:

trying to link him to a cancer patient death is  quite lame

 

Par for the course with the Edjoocated crew. Don't ever expect them to debate the substance of any issue.

8 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Par for the course with the Edjoocated crew. Don't ever expect them to debate the substance of any issue.

It seems poor reading skills are endemic to the conspiracy crowd.... I guess that's how to dismiss reality.

4 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I linked him only to spreading misinformation.... you're over reacting.

No you tried to tar him with the death of a cancer patient..

it is a common tactic to try and discredit views/opinions  by linking/lumping the person to 'other conspiracy theories'

indeed the very term conspiracy theorist was coined to discredit 

who ever the  three letter agencies wanted to shut up.

 

13 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

LOL..... sensitive about your no talent 'heroes'?

Ha ha my 'heroes'   no  but  if you are referring to Alex Jones 

he certainly is  not without talent.

23 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Don't ever expect them to debate the substance of any issue.

 

Nah, you guys don't debate fair and square (either?).

 

Anything anti-establishment gets a free pass without any checks and balances. 

 

Well,  i don't know where to post this ....... but here's as good a place as any ;

el gato and 2nd smartest  are my enjoyable reads nowadays.   C&C  has turned into a real clique , ultra Maga, and religious scriptures mess.     

Find the el gato post i list here.... as i have also made the point occassionally on AN that the people causing the problems are the ones pointing fingers at others .  Classic,  "i didn't fart..HE DID ! "

Lots of big words in this el gato stack ..... good for brain exercise ( so many of you should stay away) .   "just another conspiracy theory "

prebunking the prebunk at home and abroad

and making some predictions for 2026

el gato malo Dec 29

8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Anything anti-establishment gets a free pass without any checks and balances.

 

I am the only unbiased person here.  (still not 100% , nobodies perfect)

 

and yet you won't even agree with me on that .    You think you are the one 🤣

17 minutes ago, johng said:

No you tried to tar him with the death of a cancer patient..

A proposition not based on any evidence.  I tied him to the Dr. not the death.

18 minutes ago, johng said:

it is a common tactic to try and discredit views/opinions  by linking/lumping the person to 'other conspiracy theories'

indeed the very term conspiracy theorist was coined to discredit

People showing poor judgement in important matters, should accept the tarnish that comes with it.

1 minute ago, rumak said:

 

I am the only unbiased person here.  (still not 100% , nobodies perfect)

 

and yet you won't even agree with me on that .    You think you are the one 🤣

I'm the one Sir.

 

If it's true I agree. If it is nonsense I say so.

20 minutes ago, johng said:

Ha ha my 'heroes'   no  but  if you are referring to Alex Jones 

he certainly is  not without talent.

Success based upon deceiving rubes doesn't require talent, merely emotional repetition.

19 minutes ago, johng said:

No you tried to tar him with the death of a cancer patient..

it is a common tactic to try and discredit views/opinions  by linking/lumping the person to 'other conspiracy theories'

indeed the very term conspiracy theorist was coined to discredit 

who ever the  three letter agencies wanted to shut up.

 

Bravo .     Almost the tactic in every rebuttal , mostly on one side...... but sometimes

all inclusive .   Par for the course .... as you say.

7 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

If it's true I agree. If it is nonsense I say so.

yeah... who needs judges and juries or peer reviewed double blind studies when you have a Mump.

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I'm the one Sir.

 

If it's true I agree. If it is nonsense I say so.

you are quite the comedian sir ........ i grant you that .

 

be careful of obtaining the "one trick pony"  classification.    " Lies.... all Lies..... Show me proof " .            

And here we gooooooo.    It's another hot day on AN ..... your channel for know it all, tell it all,  feel it all,  eat it all ..... BS masked as opinions .   

 

There are no experts .   There is no god .  ooops.   (definitions galore to follow )  

Just mind games and alliances that will stand the sinking of the Titanic test .

 

No , good chap ........... you go first .    There is no death caused by drowning .

11 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

yeah... who needs judges and juries or peer reviewed double blind studies when you have a Mump.

Dr. W. Mump..........😬

 

(W. is for wannabe)....😒

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Dr. W. Mump..........😬

 

(W. is for wannabe)....😒

I must admit for most of my life I had no idea what a Mump was.... now it's very clear.

 

I predict that the phrase "Don't be a Mump!" will really go viral in 2026.