Winning, winning - the head is spinning!

 

Stocks, dollar slide as Trump's attacks on Fed shake markets

(Reuters) -European equity funds drew massive inflows in the week ended April 16, while U.S. funds faced hefty outflows, as investors continued to shift capital on concerns over U.S. trade tariffs and mounting worries over the strength of the U.S. economy.

According to LSEG Lipper data, investors bought a net $11.13 billion in European equity funds and $3.64 billion in Asian equity funds. However, U.S. equity funds witnessed an outflow of $10.62 billion.

European stocks tumbled earlier this month after U.S. President Donald Trump imposed hefty tariffs on its trading partners, but have since recovered slightly following his announcement of a 90-day pause on the reciprocal measures.

Investors pour into European equity funds, flee U.S. on tariff woes

NEW YORK (Reuters) -U.S. multinational companies are extending their currency hedges to longer periods to shield their cash flows from potential exchange rate volatility triggered by the Trump administration's tariff policies.

"Over the past week, we've seen a group of clients push their hedges out to the maximum available tenor as they look to lock in protection and ride out near-term instability," said Eric Huttman, CEO of MillTechFX.

Instead of hedging short-term risks, Garth Appelt, head of FX & emerging markets derivatives at Mizuho Americas, said his clients are now hedging two to five years out as dollar weakness has become one of the biggest fallouts of the tariff-related market turmoil.

Analysis-US multinationals extend currency hedges to counter Trump's tariff volatility

12 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Winning, winning - the head is spinning!

 

Stocks, dollar slide as Trump's attacks on Fed shake markets

Only the rich own stocks so why do I care? Walz must be giddy at the decline in Tesla.

11 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Only the rich own stocks so why do I care? Walz must be giddy at the decline in Tesla.

 

Pension funds own stocks.

1 minute ago, MicroB said:

 

Pension funds own stocks.

Only rich people have pensions. I am being sarcastic. When Biden was in charge the mantra was only rich people own stocks. They are a bit scitzo that way. Let's remember the other mantra that the stock market isn't driven by the president. Stock threads are always the most indicative of partisan stupidity.

53 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Only rich people have pensions. I am being sarcastic. When Biden was in charge the mantra was only rich people own stocks. They are a bit scitzo that way. Let's remember the other mantra that the stock market isn't driven by the president. Stock threads are always the most indicative of partisan stupidity.

Hogwash let’s remember just who is SOLELY responsible for this debacle that is one Donald jhon trump he was handed a recovering economy the by far the best preforming of all the developed nations people’s retirements are cratering ALL on the whim of one ill man……he has surrendered our place in the world he has squandered our reputation and wealth!magga indeed!go ahead keep making excuses for this!follow your piedpiper……go ahead more and more folks are snapping out of this man’s grip I just hope it’s not to late.

The small ones don't loose if they don't sell.

The big ones make money in a market or currency downfall with options.

Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932 as Investors Send ‘No Confidence’ Signal

 

'Few think administration’s negotiations with trade partners will yield results soon enough to ease the strain' -- Wall Street Journal.

https://archive.md/RZ8Rb

 

7 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Walz must be giddy at the decline in Tesla.

Yes, who isn't.

We are the winners, my friend!🎶

 

The 'sell America' trade is roaring in markets as Trump butts heads with the Fed

 

 

"The "sell America" trade was in full swing as investors kicked off the week on Monday.
US indexes dropped, the US dollar tumbled to a three-year low, and Treasury yields rose. While tariff and trade war fears have been the culprit behind the ailing US exceptionalism trade for much of 2025, Donald Trump's public criticism and insistence that he wants to fire Fed chief Jerome Powell is the latest development rattling investor confidence."

Gold up again , not just in USD (who cares) , but in euro and thb too. 

Passed the 3000 EUR today !

Probably back down when the 90 day tariff pause is over.

10 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Yes, who isn't.

Uh, me for one. Don't you give a crap about the 125,000 Americans who work for the company? Or the pension funds invested in it?  

 

Probably not. More important to virtue signal and "get" Musk by targeting a company that he doesn't own. 

2 minutes ago, FlorC said:

Gold up again , not just in USD (who cares) , but in euro and thb too. 

Passed the 3000 EUR today !

Probably back down when the 90 day tariff pause is over.

 

Factors that impact stocks and currency markets: Govt current account balance, industrial outputs, unemployment rate, and social stability...

 

Stagflation.

Fear of more farms/business going bust.

Firing 280000 of federal workers, will certainly affect them. 

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Uh, me for one. Don't you give a crap about the 125,000 Americans who work for the company? Or the pension funds invested in it?  

 

Probably not. More important to virtue signal and "get" Musk by targeting a company that he doesn't own. 

The cratering of Tesla is COMPLETELY Musk's doing so I don't feel bad for the people who work there - many whom undoubtedly voted for Trump. And I generally don't have feelings for investment funds, pension or otherwise.

I know, I should probably work on that.

Since Trump's inauguration, the euro has appreciated against the dollar by 8.3%. The Japanese yen is over 10% up.

 

That's about as convincing a sign trust in the dollar has tanked, as one can get.

 

It might be great for American exporters; however, American consumers will be hit with a double whammy. Which means inflation, whether the product can be made in the US, or not.

Just now, BLMFem said:

The cratering of Tesla is COMPLETELY Musk's doing so I don't feel bad for the people who work there - many whom undoubtedly voted for Trump. And I generally don't have feelings for investment funds, pension or otherwise.

I know, I should probably work on that.

You seriously think TESLA employees vote Republican?!? That is another magnitude of stupid.  Tesla cratering (a company that Musk only owns a 12% stake in) is a result of low information, high emotion idiots who can't think past their next bowel movement. 

 

Next thing, you will tell me that Tesla owners deserve to have their property vandalized because THEY are Trump supporters.

 

But if it makes you feel any better, Tesla is still up 60% on where it was a year ago.  And 370% over 5 years ago.  I wish the stocks I picked could "crater" like that...

20 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

We are the winners, my friend!🎶

 

The 'sell America' trade is roaring in markets as Trump butts heads with the Fed

 

 

"The "sell America" trade was in full swing as investors kicked off the week on Monday.
US indexes dropped, the US dollar tumbled to a three-year low, and Treasury yields rose. While tariff and trade war fears have been the culprit behind the ailing US exceptionalism trade for much of 2025, Donald Trump's public criticism and insistence that he wants to fire Fed chief Jerome Powell is the latest development rattling investor confidence."

If Trump fires Powell, a voice of reason, the rush to the exits will become a stampede.

7 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Only rich people have pensions. I am being sarcastic. When Biden was in charge the mantra was only rich people own stocks. They are a bit scitzo that way. Let's remember the other mantra that the stock market isn't driven by the president. Stock threads are always the most indicative of partisan stupidity.

Who are these people who uttered that mantra while the market and economy soared under Biden? Never heard that in this Forum.

 

Perhaps they are people in your dreams. Maybe Straw Men.

 

I agree about stupidity in stock threads, like folks who automatically say "buying opportunity" or "buy NVIDIA at $110 and thank me later".

 

Some other "expert" reminded us to "buy low and sell high", as if the markets announce one or the other. Sometimes highs are just a way station on the way to higher; sometimes lows are just a way station on the way to lower.

 

All of the "experts" here must be so rich, as they know so much. I always admit to being lucky, but since I only have enough money for a dozen lifetimes, I guess I must defer to that guy who once boasted of making a whole 5000 baht in one day, and who dines on 30 baht street food.

 

Now I am on record here as not only saying the market and dollar would tumble if our current POTUS was elected (yes, he won, unlike in 2020), and that we would see at least a 20% decline in the stock market (into classic bear territory)---to which many in his cult attached laugh emojis---but I also said we saw a generational high during the last month of Biden's Presidency. I do not expect to see new highs before around 2050. Today has all the hallmarks of 1929 US and 1989 Japan: excessive valuation, stupidity, a change in the underlying economic underpinnings, and probably fraud.

 

Go ahead and back up the pickup truck if you disagree.

 

The clown had an economy and market buzzing along, with the worst expectation being a soft landing. He inherited the best economy since the late 1990s, but via a totally self-inflicted wound, he has guaranteed a hard and ugly landing, a Recession or Depression, high inflation (a 10% dollar decline so far plus his across the board 10% tariffs with juice inflation), likely higher rates as foreigners stop funding 30% of the deficit, and unemployment that will probably hit 10% in 2026.

 

And if I'm wrong, I'm still sitting pretty, having really juiced my NW under the Biden Economic Boom.

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

You seriously think TESLA employees vote Republican?!? That is another magnitude of stupid.  Tesla cratering (a company that Musk only owns a 12% stake in) is a result of low information, high emotion idiots who can't think past their next bowel movement.

You mean the same people who will get Carney elected PM of Canada?

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

If Trump fires Powell, a voice of reason, the rush to the exits will become a stampede.

Assuming he can do that, yes, the last one to leave the NYSE please switch off the lights.

3 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

You mean the same people who will get Carney elected PM of Canada?

God forbid.  He is a lizard.  And he is benefitting from two things- his "honeymoon period" is still not over, and the over-hyping of the 'danger' from the USA.  Given time, both would fade away and his fundamental globalist tendencies would be revealed. But to be honest I am worried that people will fall for his shtick of "...but Trump!".  Still have a week though...

8 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Only rich people have pensions. I am being sarcastic. When Biden was in charge the mantra was only rich people own stocks. They are a bit scitzo that way. Let's remember the other mantra that the stock market isn't driven by the president. Stock threads are always the most indicative of partisan stupidity.

You remember well what was said, but not who said that! 🤣

 

When Biden was in charge, stocks were performing quite well! It was MAGAs who were claiming that only rich people own stocks, and also that  the stock market isn't driven by the president.

 

Trump is destroying the US economy one step at a time. It could be intentional. It could be diabolical. Nobody knows. He could simply be unhinged or following the dictates of a very sinister cabal. 

 

One thing is certain. He is accomplishing very little, he will NOT bring manufacturing back to America, which is stupid over priced (I am here now and inflation is raging at 20% or higher right now), he is causing alot of pain, he is losing support, destroying businesses, and consumer confidence, he does not have a coherent plan, and he is a destructive nimwit.

 

 Globalization made the world great, the manufacturing ecosystems within globalization and low tariffs allowed the US economy to thrive for decades, and he's never going to bring back manufacturing to the US. End of story, just a slogan. The fact that so many people are buying into his nonsense and destruction, is what is truly sad. 

 

 It is about showing what he can get away with. It’s about showing his enemies that what they support, he can tear down. It is all about displays of brute strength. He gets off on that, and in that sense, it seems not so much an autocracy but a flexocracy. Let me show you how I can flex my bicep as I use it to power my fist coming into your face.

 

 

39 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

 

Funny , even if it came from you !

 

The world is a lot bigger than just Rome.

Maybe it is a good thing that "Rome" gets burned down.

8 minutes ago, candide said:

You remember well what was said, but not who said that! 🤣

 

When Biden was in charge, stocks were performing quite well! It was MAGAs who were claiming that only rich people own stocks, and also that  the stock market isn't driven by the president.

 

Yes Biden spent too much and drove up debt but stocks went up 

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Since Trump's inauguration, the euro has appreciated against the dollar by 8.3%. The Japanese yen is over 10% up.

 

That's about as convincing a sign trust in the dollar has tanked, as one can get.

 

It might be great for American exporters; however, American consumers will be hit with a double whammy. Which means inflation, whether the product can be made in the US, or not.

All short term movements.

1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

All short term movements.

Then the fall in US tourism of 20% by Europeans since Trump took power is short-term too? About $64 billion worth.

10 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Then the fall in US tourism of 20% by Europeans since Trump took power is short-term too? About $64 billion worth.

20% drop from Europe, 75% from Canada and 23% from Mexico. So much winning.

 

US, Canada flight bookings fall 75%, domestic tourism slows — how to plan trips as Trump hits travel demand

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-canada-flight-bookings-fall-104400058.html