A Night in the Thai Police Station

[MalcolmB]

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Welcome back after your ban !! 

 

… bet you went through a few pairs of incontenence panties while counting down the clock when this thread lit up !!   

 

 

 

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Welcome back after your ban !! 

 

… bet you went through a few pairs of incontenence panties while counting down the clock when this thread lit up !!   

 

 

I wasn’t banned.

maybe you assumed that for jumping on the report button? 
You just gave yourself up there, check my history, I wasnt banned. 
i will take you up on that bet, how much do you want on it?

 

I suppose that means we can add snitching to your list of personality faults, not surprising since you claim to have “police friends” .

 

Three people on this thread alone have shared their negative views of you, how about pulling your head in a bit? Most loathed member on AN
 

Back on topic, would you have helped Hellfire with your supposed police “friends”.

 

Nothing worse.

[Sandboxer]

Lol, one lousy night in a harmless monkeybox without any physical atacks and this little girl has PTSD for life. 

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, faraday said:

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Wrong - it was very direct, no hidden meaning,  nothing snide about it !!

 

Learn your language ! 

 

Wrong again, Dickie.

 

The use of "maybe" is a suggestion, therefore not direct.

 

I explain the difference, as you appear to be somewhat hard of learning.

 

"you are a condescending prat"

vs

"Maybe, you are a condescending prat"

But you didn’t use the word ‘maybe’…. so try again…. 
 

Apologies if you’re upset and think I’m condescending & looking down on you… I am. 

[faraday]

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

But you didn’t use the word ‘maybe’…. so try again…. 
 

Apologies if you’re upset and think I’m condescending & looking down on you… I am. 

 

You should look again at my comment, dear boy.

 

I did use 'maybe' in my explanation.

 

You're failing: Again, Richard...

 

 

[save the frogs]

21 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

So you have got away with it for years.

Respect.

i have saved tens of thousands of pounds on taxis over the decades, and like yourself have never been in an accident.

I would have just paid up the 20,000 thb from all those savings and happily worn it.

 

Why don’t you have a license?

Why didn’t you get your wife to drive?

 

So here we have it.

A kinship has formed on this thread. Two fellow perpetual repeat offenders cheering each other on for having escaped getting caught for years. 

And admitting that saving money on taxi fees was a major motivating factor.

 

You're both a couple of low-life idiots. 

 

 

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

 

So here we have it.

A kinship has formed on this thread. Two fellow perpetual repeat offenders cheering each other on for having escaped getting caught for years. 

And admitting that saving money on taxi fees was a major motivating factor.

 

You're both a couple of low-life idiots. 

 

 

Calm down, we are not hurting anybody and 70% of members here also do it regularly without incident.

The law is a bit of over reach, unfortunately a necessary over reach because a small percentage of idiots drive like idiots when having a few.

[Cameroni]

12 hours ago, Hellfire said:

This prison is for civilized people. Thailand remains deeply rooted in barbarism. Many users on this forum also display a barbaric mindset, showing little concern for whether the punishment fits the crime. It’s as if many of them have a little Adolf Hitler inside. Sadly, this reflects a darker side of human nature—cruel, wild, and finding satisfaction in the suffering of others. 

These people use concepts like ‘law’ and ‘order’ as a pretext to justify their hatred toward other human beings. 

A forum full of spiteful old geezers.

 

You've got to be joking, prison should be like in the Philippines, 38 in one room, with one toilet, not like a 5 star hotel with aircon. Where's the deterrent in that? See a civilized country like Thailand gets this right, only an uncivilized country like Denmark would pamper criminals so they offend again.

 

We show little concern? How much concern did you show for your fellow man, woman and child when you sloshed whiskey and got behind the wheel drunk? You could have killed someone. You're the dark side. Not us. We're the light, making you understand how unacceptable this behaviour is. It's not hatred, it's tough love.

 

I'm also considerably younger than you. And I'm not "spiteful", I sympathise with your suffering, because I too, believe it or not, spent a night in Thai jail. In my case however I was actually innocent. You're guilty as hell.

[Hellfire]

49 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You've got to be joking, prison should be like in the Philippines, 38 in one room, with one toilet, not like a 5 star hotel with aircon. Where's the deterrent in that? See a civilized country like Thailand gets this right, only an uncivilized country like Denmark would pamper criminals so they offend again.

 

We show little concern? How much concern did you show for your fellow man, woman and child when you sloshed whiskey and got behind the wheel drunk? You could have killed someone. You're the dark side. Not us. We're the light, making you understand how unacceptable this behaviour is. It's not hatred, it's tough love.

 

I'm also considerably younger than you. And I'm not "spiteful", I sympathise with your suffering, because I too, believe it or not, spent a night in Thai jail. In my case however I was actually innocent. You're guilty as hell.

Do they have lower crime rates in Philippines compared to Denmark? They should, according to your logic. But they do not, according to reality. 
 

 

Overall Crime Index (Numbeo 2024 Estimates)

 

 

(Scale: 0 = very low crime, 100 = very high crime)

 

• Denmark: ~27.0 (Low)
• Philippines: ~45.0–55.0 (Moderate to High)

 

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, Cameroni said:

You're guilty as hell.

and that's why he deserves ... HELL FIRE!

 

[Ralf001]

On 4/22/2025 at 12:25 AM, Hellfire said:

I drank about 70-80 grams of Thai 35% whiskey and got behind the wheel. 

 

70-80 grams is how many shots ?

[Cameroni]

9 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

Do they have lower crime rates in Philippines compared to Denmark? They should, according to your logic. But they do not, according to reality. 

 

That's the wrong logic. You're comparing apples with oranges. Obviously the rampant poverty in Philippines contributes to crime being high in Phil. What you should ask is how high would crime be in Phil if it had 5 star hotel prisons like Denmark.

 

But yes, Filipinos are people unusually inclined towards crime and violence in particular. You wouldn't think so in how they smile at you, but you would be wrong. Be very careful with Filipinos.

[faraday]

30 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

70-80 grams is how many shots ?

It's about 84mL.

 

A standard shot here is 25mL

 

So 29.4% of pure alcohol.

 

= over the legal limit here.

[richard_smith237]

6 hours ago, faraday said:

 

You should look again at my comment, dear boy.

 

I did use 'maybe' in my explanation.

 

You're failing: Again, Richard...

 

 

 

Look at you trying to desperately shoe-horn in an argument - Its rather amusing... 

 

Whether the comment used 'maybe' or not, it was rather direct, short and to the point, just as your attempts to call me a 'condescending prat' are...   

 

 

Are you one of those snowflakes without a spine who pee their panties when a policeman stops them ?

... is that why you're aligning yourself with those who do not understand Mango's comment ?

 

 

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

On 4/22/2025 at 12:25 AM, Hellfire said:

I drank about 70-80 grams of Thai 35% whiskey and got behind the wheel. 

 

70-80 grams is how many shots ?

 

I'm assuming he means 70-80 ml...  

 

In which case - 70-80ml of whisky would be 3x standard UK shots (which are 25ml).

 

Which is about this much: 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

4 hours ago, Cameroni said:

You've got to be joking, prison should be like in the Philippines, 38 in one room, with one toilet, not like a 5 star hotel with aircon. Where's the deterrent in that? See a civilized country like Thailand gets this right, only an uncivilized country like Denmark would pamper criminals so they offend again.

 

We show little concern? How much concern did you show for your fellow man, woman and child when you sloshed whiskey and got behind the wheel drunk? You could have killed someone. You're the dark side. Not us. We're the light, making you understand how unacceptable this behaviour is. It's not hatred, it's tough love.

 

I'm also considerably younger than you. And I'm not "spiteful", I sympathise with your suffering, because I too, believe it or not, spent a night in Thai jail. In my case however I was actually innocent. You're guilty as hell.

 

Looking at this with balance, the suggestion that he was 'sloshed' is a strong exaggeration:

- He registered 'under' the England DUI limit.

- He registered 'under' the Thai full license limit.

- He registered 'slightly over' the Thai Temp license (no license) limit.

 

Had he 'blown' 30-60mins later - his body would have already metabolised the alcohol and he'd have been under that lower limit.

 

Its arguable of course, but its likely after that at that 'lower limit' his driving was completely unimpaired...  a little different to being twice over over the full legal limit where your scorn would be wholly valid.

 

 

 

[AgMech Cowboy]

On 4/22/2025 at 12:25 AM, Hellfire said:

old men from this forum—yes, I deserved to be quartered

I take exception to this 'statement'.  I think you'll find a higher percentage young men (and women) who are probably much more condemning than the old guys. After all, many old guys drove vehicles back in the day when 0.15% was the drunk limit indicator and were still very able to walk and drive. (following instructions is another matter completely).  Then it went to 0.10% and now in many places it's 0.08%, maybe lower in some places.  I don't keep track of it.  But, it's not nice to single out us old boomers, dick.

[richard_smith237]

4 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Calm down, we are not hurting anybody and 70% of members here also do it regularly without incident.

The law is a bit of over reach, unfortunately a necessary over reach because a small percentage of idiots drive like idiots when having a few.

 

In the Ops case, driving very slightly over the limit is quite different from driving after 12-14 beers.

 

It could be argued that there exists a moral "grey area," where being slightly over the limit doesn't necessarily reflect the same socially unacceptable behavior of someone who is undeniably impaired and clearly exceeds the limit....  One is a minor lapse in judgment, perhaps even uncharacteristic, the other is pure idiocy and shows complete disregard for anyone else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jippytum]

By your own admission you where guilty of multiple offenses. Under the circumstances you where treated fairly.  Had it been a weekend or holiday time your confinement could have been considerabley more than 24 hours. 

[jippytum]

By your own admission you where guilty of multiple offenses. Under the circumstances you where treated fairly.  Had it been a weekend or holiday time your confinement could have been considerabley more than 24 hours. 

[faraday]

34 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Had he 'blown' 30-60mins later - his body would have already metabolised the alcohol and he'd have been under that lower limit.

 

Not at all.

BAC peaks at 30-70 minutes. 

 

 

 

 

[Presnock]

On 4/22/2025 at 12:25 AM, Hellfire said:

We've all read and seen films about Thai prisons. We all know it's not the most pleasant place to spend your time. And yet, nothing compares to personal experience—what you go through yourself...

From the very start, I'll admit that I fully recognize my guilt for the violations I committed. First, I drank about 70-80 grams of Thai 35% whiskey and got behind the wheel. Second, I drove without having either Thai or international driver's licenses. Did I deserve the punishment I received? According to many grumpy, old men from this forum—yes, I deserved to be quartered. From my point of view, however, I was treated unfairly and even in a dirty way.

That day, my Thai wife was with me. We went for a short drive around the city, and during it, I had a little whiskey. A police patrol stopped us when we were about 200 meters from our condo. It was around 11 PM. I should mention that I felt 100% sober at that moment, and I'm sure I looked that way too. I didn't refuse to blow into the breathalyzer. The result was 27 "milligrams percent"… As the young officer explained, it was a full 7 points above the legal limit. About 15 minutes later, a young Thai man breathed into the same device, and his result was 120 "milligrams percent". He looked, by the way, quite respectable.

They kept us there for about an hour and a half, right where we were stopped. All this time, through my wife, the police explained that they would process us at the station, we'd pay a 20,000 baht bail, and most likely, we'd be in court the next day. At the station, they kept us for at least another hour (together with the 120%-Thai). There's no need to explain the discomfort of being in a police station: various rude, ignorant men of different ages take pleasure in making you feel small, desperately exaggerating their importance. If there's anywhere that the meaninglessness of human nature fully reveals itself—it's during close interaction with police officers (or "dogs," as they're commonly called in Russia).

Just when it seemed that the cheap spectacle was about to end, a higher-ranking officer (which means the most immoral of them all) declared that I could escape the country, and the 20,000 baht bail wasn’t a guarantee for such a horrible criminal as me. The conclusion—I'd spend the night in jail.

I didn't argue, handed my personal belongings to my wife, and, together with the 120%-Thai, walked into the police cell.

There were about 15 other Thai prisoners already in the cell (although among them were also Burmese and some other Asians). The surprising thing was that they were all fast asleep. Another surprising part was that they were sleeping on the completely bare stone floor. It finally hit me where I was. The room smelled strongly from the toilet located within the cell. The floor, on which the prisoners were sleeping, was not just stone, but also quite dirty. I sat in a corner and immediately realized I wouldn’t be able to sleep here. My Thai companion also sat in a corner, and initially, it seemed like he, too, wouldn't sleep (by the way, he was sent to jail only because he didn’t have the money for bail). However, I was wrong. Half an hour later, he dozed off while sitting, and an hour later, he comfortably stretched out on the dirty floor and began snoring.

And here I was, alone in this terrifying room, surrounded by 15 sleeping Asians. Just a few hours ago, I had been expecting a very different end to my evening. I noticed a small window near the ceiling of the cell. Now, it became my main point of reference for the coming hours. I had to wait for dawn.

I won’t go into the details of my thought process. Naturally, it was a tough night for me—both physically and mentally. What I didn’t know was that at the same time the officer who sent me behind bars was interrogating my wife. He asked her about me, how I earned a living, whether I had broken the law before... When he saw my wife’s reluctance to turn me in, he started yelling at her, reminding her that I was a foreigner and that by defending me, she was betraying her country and her people. In the end, he promised her that I’d be deported. Such a nice guy, a true son of a land of smile.

Meanwhile, I kept changing positions: I sat when my back hurt, then stood, then walked. I did this all night. The thing that bothered me the most was the fear that they wouldn’t let me go in the morning and would keep me for another day or two. The fifteen Asians peacefully and soundly slept on the floor the whole time.

Finally, it started to get light. The birds began singing. My cellmates started to wake up. They treated me quite amicably, but without any excess.

I should mention that aside from the stone floor, another problem was drinking water. They gave me a small bottle when I entered, but only after my wife insisted. I stretched it out throughout the night. Surprisingly, my Thai neighbors didn’t seem too bothered by the lack of water—they drank very little. However, when they brought some kind of food (rice and something wrapped in paper), everyone sat down happily and ate with gusto. From this, I concluded that, after a night on the stone floor, everyone’s mood was surprisingly good.

Around noon, they loaded us into a van and took us to court. Dirty and unwashed. I was fined 10,000 baht.

Did my attitude towards Thailand change after all this? Definitely.

Be careful—you really don't want to end up in jail here, even for just one day. And don't forget, we're all guests here (in the worst sense of the word).

I do believe the motto here is :do not drink and drive!  you should have waited until you got home or let your wife drive. IMHO

[SAFETY FIRST]

7 minutes ago, Presnock said:

I do believe the motto here is :do not drink and drive!  you should have waited until you got home or let your wife drive. IMHO

Nope, nope, nope 

 

Motto is definitely get yourself a Thai drivers licence 

 

The whole debacle could have been non existence, imaginary. 

 

Poor guy should have been home sleeping, he screwed up. 

 

 

[ChrisKC]

There are two lessons to learn from the OP.

 A few measures over the limit is enough to be prosecuted even though it might be pushing it a bit to call it "drunk in charge" 

 

A night in prison, cannot be an experience however it is couched to be a very nice one, however much deserved. 

 

Doing anything in any country that breaks the law predisposes the Offender to all sorts of possible abuses and unpleasantness that is perceived at the time to be "over the top" 

[Presnock]

20 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Nope, nope, nope 

 

Motto is definitely get yourself a Thai drivers licence 

 

The whole debacle could have been non existence, imaginary. 

 

Poor guy should have been home sleeping, he screwed up. 

 

 

Maybe you just haven't seen the signs in Thai script that say "don't drink drive"