24 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I didn't. You didn't read the reply properly.

Now you're just gaslighting. Show where you gave a percentage or even an amount of how much was  recycled.

9 hours ago, placeholder said:

Now you're just gaslighting. Show where you gave a percentage or even an amount of how much was  recycled.

 

I said very clearly that little is recycled at the moment. That is why the upside of doing it so great of course. with millions of devices that contain rare earths.

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

I said very clearly that little is recycled at the moment. That is why the upside of doing it so great of course. with millions of devices that contain rare earths.

My mistake. I can see that you did.

But of course, that makes your case worse. As I've noted before you don't note the element of Time. How long before these crucial resources can be developed or acquired from elsewhere in sufficient quantities? What is the USA going to do in the meantime while other economies enjoy access? How much will it be left behind?

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

My mistake. I can see that you did.

But of course, that makes your case worse. As I've noted before you don't note the element of Time. How long before these crucial resources can be developed or acquired from elsewhere in sufficient quantities? What is the USA going to do in the meantime while other economies enjoy access? How much will it be left behind?

 

As always gracious of you to concede your error.

 

Well, yes, it would take time to develop the infrastructure, but there are US companies that specialise in extracting materials during recycling. It can be done. Until then the US would have to rely on its own mines, and those which it sponsoered in Africa in assoication with Australian companies. 

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

As always gracious of you to concede your error.

 

Well, yes, it would take time to develop the infrastructure, but there are US companies that specialise in extracting materials during recycling. It can be done. Until then the US would have to rely on its own mines, and those which it sponsoered in Africa in assoication with Australian companies. 

These mines don't provide much. As I understand it Australia's output is exported to customers elsewhere. And China still controls most refining. In the meantime that leaves the USA in a very poor position.

On 4/25/2025 at 12:20 PM, JAG said:

1 am not an economist, but even I can see that putting tarrifs of multiples of 10% on imported goods means that the prices of those imported goods rise -  inflation?

 

If in the long term manufacturing "returns to the US" it will require massive investment in factories. Wages and production costs for the goods will be higher, investment will have to be paid back, therefore the goods will be more expensive ( the whole reason the manufacturing moved abroad) - inflation?

yeah that and the increase cost of production in the US including wages and health care as well as inflation of raw materials