25 million deaths: what could happen if the US ends global health funding

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

Models estimate the ginormous potential impact of foreign-aid cuts.

 

The United States spent roughly US$12 billion on global health in 2024. Without that yearly spending, roughly 25 million people could die in the next 15 years, according to models that have estimated the impact of such cuts on programmes for tuberculosis, HIV, family planning and maternal and child health.

 

The United States has long been the largest donor for health initiatives in poor countries, accounting for almost one-quarter of all global health assistance from donors. These investments have contributed to consistent public-health gains for more than a decade. HIV deaths, for example, dropped by 51% globally between 2010 and 2023, and deaths owing to tuberculosis dropped by 23% between 2015 and 2023.

 

But the administration of US President Donald Trump has cut billions of dollars of spending for global health, including dismantling the US Agency for International Development (USAID) and freezing foreign-aid contributions — some of which has been temporarily restored.

 

 

 

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https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-01191-z

 

[Jingthing]

Very bad things.

But do the maga fascists or Trump care?

No. They LIKE it. With maga cruelty is the point.

[cjinchiangrai]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Very bad things.

But do the maga fascists or Trump care?

No. They LIKE it. With maga cruelty is the point.

They have come to the point of depopulating to enable the acquisition of additional resources. Thiel and Musk do not care either.

[Jingthing]

Just now, cjinchiangrai said:

They have come to the point of depopulating to enable the acquisition of additional resources. Thiel and Musk do not care either.

On top of the millions of deaths they are causing, they are playing right into the hands of China. Before Trump 2.0 it was hard for most of the world to see China as the "good guy" among the super powers, but Trump has gifted them that.

[johng]

Why does the US have to take care of the rest of the world ?

Trump was re elected to take care of the US and he is mostly (with some glaring exceptions) doing that,

causing a lot of consternation to

"the establishment" is a nice added bonus...never a dull moment politics has never been this entertaining.

 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

31 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

On top of the millions of deaths they are causing, they are playing right into the hands of China. Before Trump 2.0 it was hard for most of the world to see China as the "good guy" among the super powers, but Trump has gifted them that.

 

 

It was a sad and sorry spectacle recently... as I was watching news report videos of the earthquake recovery efforts in Myanmar...

 

Tons of news video of rescue teams from China and various European countries digging into the rubble there trying to find and rescue those trapped... And amidst it all, the U.S. -- which historically would be the largest player in that kind of a international relief effort -- was a virtual non-entity because of Trump and his foreign aid cuts / freezes.

 

USAID cuts put US on sidelines of Myanmar aid, former officials say

2 April 2025

 

"The US has been unable to meaningfully respond to the Myanmar earthquake due to the Trump administration's decision to slash foreign aid, according to three former senior US officials.

 

One former US Agency for International Development (USAID) mission director for Myanmar told the BBC that "America has been on the sidelines" after the disaster.

 

"The US basically was not there for the rescue-window period," said another official. All three suggested the deep cuts to aid probably cost lives."

 

(more)

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4grl7nydyzo

 

That's what Trump and MAGA stand for -- heartless, soulless, self-interested to the extreme.

 

Quote

Before Trump 2.0 it was hard for most of the world to see China as the "good guy" among the super powers, but Trump has gifted them that.

 

It's a disgrace for the U.S. and what it used to stand for...

 

[Jingthing]

Decent non maga cult Americans are ashamed, embarrassed, and horrified by the Trump regime.

[KhunLA]

... "The United States has long been the largest donor for health initiatives in poor countries, accounting for almost one-quarter of all global health assistance from donors." ...

 

~200 countries & territories and the USA is borrowing money to give it away .... again.   While US citizens are homeless and 40 million need assistance to feed their families.

 

CUT ALL FOREIGN AID 

[cjinchiangrai]

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

... "The United States has long been the largest donor for health initiatives in poor countries, accounting for almost one-quarter of all global health assistance from donors." ...

 

~200 countries & territories and the USA is borrowing money to give it away .... again.   While US citizens are homeless and 40 million need assistance to feed their families.

 

CUT ALL FOREIGN AID 

And you think Trump wants to fix homelessness and hunger?  Delusional

[flexomike]

17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Decent non maga cult Americans are ashamed, embarrassed, and horrified by the Trump regime.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

42 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

... "The United States has long been the largest donor for health initiatives in poor countries, accounting for almost one-quarter of all global health assistance from donors." ...

 

~200 countries & territories and the USA is borrowing money to give it away .... again.   While US citizens are homeless and 40 million need assistance to feed their families.

 

CUT ALL FOREIGN AID 

 

Got news for you -- infectious diseases like COVID, the measles, avian flu, polio, malaria, etc etc DO NOT respect national borders.

 

When the U.S. under Trump abandons its historically major role in supporting international public health initiatives and guts the U.S.'s own public health organizations, it makes the WHOLE world less healthy and less safe, including the United States.

 

 

[Harrisfan]

37 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

... "The United States has long been the largest donor for health initiatives in poor countries, accounting for almost one-quarter of all global health assistance from donors." ...

 

~200 countries & territories and the USA is borrowing money to give it away .... again.   While US citizens are homeless and 40 million need assistance to feed their families.

 

CUT ALL FOREIGN AID 

Correct. Zero foreign aid. 

[mogandave]

25 million 3rd world dead should help reduce global warming, yes?

 

There are so many countries with much better, much cheaper healthcare than the US, does it not make more sense for them fund global healthcare? 

[Mike_Hunt]

For some reason, the US is responsible for the welfare of the entire world. 

[Mike_Hunt]

49 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Decent non maga cult Americans are ashamed, embarrassed, and horrified by the Trump regime.

You lefties care more about the noncitizen than the citizen. 

[Mike_Hunt]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

It was a sad and sorry spectacle recently... as I was watching news report videos of the earthquake recovery efforts in Myanmar...

 

Tons of news video of rescue teams from China and various European countries digging into the rubble there trying to find and rescue those trapped... And amidst it all, the U.S. -- which historically would be the largest player in that kind of a international relief effort -- was a virtual non-entity because of Trump and his foreign aid cuts / freezes.

 

USAID cuts put US on sidelines of Myanmar aid, former officials say

2 April 2025

 

"The US has been unable to meaningfully respond to the Myanmar earthquake due to the Trump administration's decision to slash foreign aid, according to three former senior US officials.

 

One former US Agency for International Development (USAID) mission director for Myanmar told the BBC that "America has been on the sidelines" after the disaster.

 

"The US basically was not there for the rescue-window period," said another official. All three suggested the deep cuts to aid probably cost lives."

 

(more)

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4grl7nydyzo

 

That's what Trump and MAGA stand for -- heartless, soulless, self-interested to the extreme.

 

 

It's a disgrace for the U.S. and what it used to stand for...

 

 

How is Myanmar the responsibility of the USA? 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

It's U.S. citizens who are being sickened and in some cases dying from measles right now while the Trump Administration fiddles, cuts DOMESTIC health funding, and appoints a bunch of anti-vaxers to senior federal health jobs:

 

"Last month, H.H.S. moved to cut billions of dollars allocated to local health departments. (A judge temporarily blocked the funding cuts after a coalition of states sued the Trump administration.)

 

And layoffs at the C.D.C. eliminated entire divisions of the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, who had been helping states ensure that their hospitals were equipped to treat patients with an airborne respiratory disease.

 

The response has also been hamstrung by muddled messaging from the country’s top health official, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has downplayed vaccinations and the seriousness of measles infections while promoting unproven treatments, like cod liver oil."

 

New York Times
https://archive.ph/txXD0

 

 

[Mike_Hunt]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

On top of the millions of deaths they are causing, they are playing right into the hands of China. Before Trump 2.0 it was hard for most of the world to see China as the "good guy" among the super powers, but Trump has gifted them that.

You are one unhinged poster. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Just now, Mike_Hunt said:

 

How is Myanmar the responsibility of the USA? 

 

You want to cede the primary role of international leadership to China? 

 

Because that's exactly what Trump's withdrawal from international cooperation activities is doing.

 

[Pouatchee]

the problem is that all around the world people and states are counting on the US to take care of everything from health to policing while the EU is getting fatter and richer while doing nothing to help either way. Just as the trump admin pointed out it is time for europe to start protecting itself... when trump announced this it shocked the europeans who were indignated that they actually would have to start paying to militarise themselves

[Mike_Hunt]

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

It's U.S. citizens who are being sickened and in some cases dying from measles right now while the Trump Administration fiddles, cuts DOMESTIC health funding, and appoints a bunch of anti-vaxers to senior federal health jobs:

 

"Last month, H.H.S. moved to cut billions of dollars allocated to local health departments. (A judge temporarily blocked the funding cuts after a coalition of states sued the Trump administration.)

 

And layoffs at the C.D.C. eliminated entire divisions of the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, who had been helping states ensure that their hospitals were equipped to treat patients with an airborne respiratory disease.

 

The response has also been hamstrung by muddled messaging from the country’s top health official, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has downplayed vaccinations and the seriousness of measles infections while promoting unproven treatments, like cod liver oil."

https://archive.ph/txXD0

 

 

 

I have a question for you.   How does cutting funding relate to the measles cases in Texas?

[johng]

50 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

And you think Trump wants to fix homelessness and hunger?  Delusional

 

Fix it for Americans first and then if possible for others..but America first  that is what he was elected to do  seems he is mostly

(with qualification about some bits)  doing what he said he would do.

[Mike_Hunt]

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

You want to cede the primary role of international leadership to China? 

 

Because that's exactly what Trump's withdrawal from international cooperation activities is doing.

 

 

Why not let China do it?  The US is 36 trillion in debt.   The USA cannot fund the rest of the world and put the tab on the national credit card. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 minute ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

I have a question for you.   How does cutting funding relate to the measles cases in Texas?

 

Quote

Health officials managing this year’s [measles] outbreak are facing unexpected obstacles.

In a public meeting last week, Dr. David Sugerman, a C.D.C. senior scientist, said recent threats to local public health funding meant the agency was now “scraping to find the resources” to support those in Texas and other states grappling with outbreaks.

Last month, H.H.S. moved to cut billions of dollars allocated to local health departments.

 

https://archive.ph/txXD0

 

[Stiddle Mump]

 

 

Always strings attached to this type of help.

 

A much healthier third world would soon emerge.

[Mike_Hunt]

Just now, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

https://archive.ph/txXD0

 

 

Could you answer the question in your own words?  These people were unvacant before Trump assumed office. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

Could you answer the question in your own words?  These people were unvacant before Trump assumed office. 

 

Trump has cut and tried to cut vast amounts of federal funding that normally would go to support all the various state and local health departments. That leaves them hamstrung and unable to respond due to loss of funding and manpower.

 

I have no idea what "unvacant" means, since nothing I posted above related to that, whatever you think it means.

 

[johng]

1 minute ago, Mike_Hunt said:

How does cutting funding relate to the measles cases in Texas?

 

All those illegal aliens coming over the border can't get the vaccines because the fascist/Hitler Trump has cut funding.. 😭

 

Meanwhile  at the same time he effectively closed the border  with just the words

"don't come"...diametrically opposed to his predecessor who pronounced an open border and facilitated millions to cross no questions asked.

 

So in answer to the question absolutely nothing.

[Mike_Hunt]

Just now, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Trump has cut and tried to cut vast amounts of federal funding that normally would go to support all the various state and local health departments. That leaves them hamstrung and unable to respond due to loss of funding and manpower.

 

I have no idea what "unvacant" means, since nothing I posted above related to that, whatever you think it means.

 

There should be cuts at the federal level.   The US is running a yearly deficit of 2 trillion dollars.   The state and local governments need to raise taxes to cover these needs. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

US pulls back $12 billion in funding to state health departments

March 27, 20257:21 AM GMT+7

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-government-pulls-back-over-11-billion-funding-state-health-departments-2025-03-26/

 

 

And in "measlesland"....

Federal public health cuts could cost Texas $700 million

State and local health agencies are having to cut programs and staff to make up the loss and more cuts could be coming.

April 9, 2025

 

https://www.texastribune.org/2025/04/09/texas-public-health-federal-funding-cuts-pandemic/

 

 

Trump clawed back billions in federal health grants. Here’s how much California is losing

California may lose more than $1 billion in public health and mental health funding as a result of new federal budget cuts that target COVID-19 pandemic response grants, according to the U.S. Department of Government Efficiency website.

 

March 27, 2025

 

https://calmatters.org/health/2025/03/trump-budget-cuts-health-grants/