5 hours ago, blazes said:

 

Frankly I have never forgiven him for taking that unutterably stupid knee in his office back in the 2020 days when Floyd the drug dealer was all the rage.....

What was he "saying" by taking that knee????????

That he was a pandering pussy

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

Too many syllables?

 

 

That definition (of a Briton) seems to encompass all individuals born in GB, wouldn't you agree?

 

A 'Yes' will suffice but, prior warning, be prepared for a 'Please elaborate' from me if you reply 'No'.

4 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

That definition (of a Briton) seems to encompass all individuals born in GB, wouldn't you agree?

 

A 'Yes' will suffice but, prior warning, be prepared for a 'Please elaborate' from me if you reply 'No'.

 

You know very well what Indigenous means Ray. If someone moves to Britain from another continent and has a child, that child is obviously not indigenous to Britain. 

 

Same as the Maori are indigenous to NZ and Aboriginals are indigenous to Australia. If a Chinese couple move to NZ and have a child, that child is not an indigenous New Zealander.

 

Please stop asking disingenuous, stupid questions that you already know the answer to. Oh, and before you ask...

 

20 minutes ago, RayC said:

That definition (of a Briton) seems to encompass all individuals born in GB, wouldn't you agree?

I thought Britons had red hair, ran around naked, waving swords and covered in blue ink!

Maybe I got my history wrong?

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I thought Britons had red hair, ran around naked, waving swords and covered in blue ink!

Maybe I got my history wrong?

 

No, these are the settler people of Pattaya....

28 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

You know very well what Indigenous means Ray. If someone moves to Britain from another continent and has a child, that child is obviously not indigenous to Britain. 

 

Same as the Maori are indigenous to NZ and Aboriginals are indigenous to Australia. If a Chinese couple move to NZ and have a child, that child is not an indigenous New Zealander.

 

Please stop asking disingenuous, stupid questions that you already know the answer to. Oh, and before you ask...

 

 

So, by that line of argument anyone who is not of Celtic descent cannot be considered an indigenous Briton(*). You have just ruled out a sizeable proportion of the UK population of Anglo, Jewish, Norman, Saxon and Slavic origin amongst other groups. Who knows, maybe you've excluded yourself. Now that really would be something😂

 

In any event, it still remains nonsensical to infer - as you endlessly do - that this government is some sort of 'fifth columnist'. You might disagree with the policies, they might affect you adversely, you might think that they will have a negative effect on the country, but to suggest that a British government - no matter its' political colours - would actively try to damage the country as you do is ridiculous.

 

(*) Google AI defines indigenous Britons as, " ..  the Celtic people who inhabited Britain before the Anglo-Saxon invasions beginning in the 5th century AD".

2 hours ago, RayC said:

You might disagree with the policies, they might affect you adversely, you might think that they will have a negative effect on the country, but to suggest that a British government - no matter its' political colours - would actively try to damage the country as you do is ridiculous.

 

You should Google "white guilt" and "self loathing" before you post such nonsense on a public forum. Although I'm quite sure you have first hand experience if you start being honest for once. 

 

Modern Labour hate Britain especially the white working working class. Emily Thornberry's tweet was a great example. The mask slipped but the sentiment runs deep.

 

The dog whistle comment by Lucy Powell about the decades long systemic rape of poor working class girls in the North. Shameful. 

 

That's before we even start on the 2 tier sentencing guidlines stacked against the indigenous population. 

 

They are the opposite of what they stood for in the 70's and 80's. A bunch of liberal elitists pontificating from their 4 story town houses in Islington. They loathe the people they used to represent.

 

Rayner, Starmer, Cooper. Absolute clowns. Out of their depth. Never mind DEI Lammy.

 

I'd be amazed if they last the full term. Only dinosaurs like you even still defend them. Put a fork in them. They're done.

9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Why does it matter why they left, so long as they left?

 

Something Labour has achieved at levels not seen for 8 years.

 

It does matter. The public are concerned about hundreds of undocumented young males arriving on boats every day, costing the tax payer £8 million per day just for the hotel accommodation,  abusing the UKs extremely generous asylum system. These men are not being sent back to where they came from. 

 

Voluntary returns, and sending back some Brazilian overstayers is not going to address these concerns. 

 

Labour are massaging the facts, and going for easy wins. 

13 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

It does matter. The public are concerned about hundreds of undocumented young males arriving on boats every day, costing the tax payer £8 million per day just for the hotel accommodation,  abusing the UKs extremely generous asylum system. These men are not being sent back to where they came from. 

 

Voluntary returns, and sending back some Brazilian overstayers is not going to address these concerns. 

 

Labour are massaging the facts, and going for easy wins. 

Maybe if they tackled the vast amount of tax evasion, and tax avoidance by the superrich, there would be plenty of money for everyone.  But the HMRC was cut in terms of staff & finding over the years to facilitate the inability to tackle tax evasion & tax avoidance over the last decade.

The headline should read:

 

"Why yet another cuck-symptom of the fundamental problem could be PM in 2029."

 

 

 

The Independent could have shortened it to......

 

He panders to the worst prejudices of the uneducated masses simply to garner votes and get into power.....exactly as Trump did.

12 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

No problem for me. Important for me is WHAT he's saying.

What he's saying is illegal immigrants take precedence over legal citizens and pensioners need to be taxed more.

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

You should Google "white guilt" and "self loathing" before you post such nonsense on a public forum. Although I'm quite sure you have first hand experience if you start being honest for once. 

 

Wtf are you gibbering on about?  

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Modern Labour hate Britain especially the white working working class. Emily Thornberry's tweet was a great example. The mask slipped but the sentiment runs deep.

 

The dog whistle comment by Lucy Powell about the decades long systemic rape of poor working class girls in the North. Shameful. 

 

Terrible comments but hardly government policy.

 

A reform councillor has posted racist comments, should we therefore conclude that Reform is a racist party?

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgrg2nwgxl0o

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

That's before we even start on the 2 tier sentencing guidlines stacked against the indigenous population. 

 

Guidelines proposed by an independent body - the Sentencing Council - not by the government and since suspended due to pressure from the Justice Secretary.

 

But why should you let facts get in the way of another mindless anti-Labour rant.

 

And talking of 'dog whistling', there you go again with your use of 'indigenous', despite being unable or unwilling to define what you mean by the term.

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

They are the opposite of what they stood for in the 70's and 80's. A bunch of liberal elitists pontificating from their 4 story town houses in Islington. They loathe the people they used to represent.

 

And you call me a dinosaur! You might not have noticed, but society has changed since the '70s and '80s. It's therefore not much of a surprise that political parties have changed as well.

 

In any event, in this particular example you are once again factually incorrect. This cabinet is the first where none of its' members attended an independent school before the age of 15. Not exactly a bunch of elites.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/britain-mps-middle-class-poorer/

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Rayner, Starmer, Cooper. Absolute clowns. Out of their depth. Never mind DEI Lammy.

 

An opinion. You might be proved correct. But it doesn't make any of them enemies of the nation as you constantly infer.

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

I'd be amazed if they last the full term. Only dinosaurs like you even still defend them. Put a fork in them. They're done.

 

Oh, to be a forward-looking, progressive thinker like you! Just what the country needs: Insular, narrow-minded bigots.

 

Last the full term? Labour currently has a majority in the Commons of 145, so no matter how tightly you close your eyes and wish really, really hard, the government is unlikely to be forced from office within the next 4 years.

3 hours ago, Will B Good said:

He panders to the worst prejudices of the uneducated masses simply to garner votes and get into power.....exactly as Trump did.

He's a conviction politician. He's always been passionate on these issues. He doesn't change his views to garner votes like most politicians do. In fact I'd say he doesn't care what other people think of him! 

You may not agree with his views, but you can't accuse him of saying these things to garner votes. 

Good luck 

I have a feeling incidents such as the one below will help Farage.  It's the most blatant example of the U.K. turned upside down and the disruption of the classic British lifestyle.

 

Calls to stop Kent pub being converted into mosque

 

Plans to convert a Victorian pub into a mosque has ignited a debate among residents.

A charity has applied to change The Peacock in Gravesend, Kent, into a mosque six months after a similar application was denied.

The pub closed its doors for the final time on Jan 1 last year after being bought by the Al-Haqq Academy charity, having been on the market for four years.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/calls-to-stop-kent-pub-being-converted-into-mosque/ar-AA1Egwux?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEXST&cvid=209c2d5a5444490b95d38b6e41d8557b&ei=18

3 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

I have a feeling incidents such as the one below will help Farage.  It's the most blatant example of the U.K. turned upside down and the disruption of the classic British lifestyle.

 

Calls to stop Kent pub being converted into mosque

 

Plans to convert a Victorian pub into a mosque has ignited a debate among residents.

A charity has applied to change The Peacock in Gravesend, Kent, into a mosque six months after a similar application was denied.

The pub closed its doors for the final time on Jan 1 last year after being bought by the Al-Haqq Academy charity, having been on the market for four years.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/calls-to-stop-kent-pub-being-converted-into-mosque/ar-AA1Egwux?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEXST&cvid=209c2d5a5444490b95d38b6e41d8557b&ei=18

Maybe the locals should have applied to all buy the pub, then actually gone to drink in it.

10 hours ago, MarkBR said:

Maybe the locals should have applied to all buy the pub, then actually gone to drink in it.

 

It all goes back to supply and demand.  It seems there is more demand for a mosque than a pub and that is, at the very least, unusual for what had previously been a thirsty, Christian Anglo-Saxon country.  

I wonder how people can trust him. Four houses and none of them in Clacton, his constituency. Tried to get German nationality but even they wouldn't have him. Tax resident in Belgium - not the UK. 

N.B he may change as he gets closer to forming a government.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Purdey said:

I wonder how people can trust him. Four houses and none of them in Clacton, his constituency. Tried to get German nationality but even they wouldn't have him. Tax resident in Belgium - not the UK. 

 

 

You can't trust any of them, but we've tried everyone else, and this is the last guy left we haven't tried.

He might turn out to be an untrustworthy crook, but that won't make our lives any worse.

5 minutes ago, Purdey said:

I wonder how people can trust him. Four houses and none of them in Clacton, his constituency. Tried to get German nationality but even they wouldn't have him. Tax resident in Belgium - not the UK. 

N.B he may change as he gets closer to forming a government.

 

 

 

Which all counts for nought as long as he continually shouts from the roof tops about 'the boats', five star hotels and no one in London now speaks English..........pandering to the UK version of the MAGA cult.

8 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Which all counts for nought as long as he continually shouts from the roof tops about 'the boats', five star hotels and no one in London now speaks English..........pandering to the UK version of the MAGA cult.

Does anyone really care what he shouts?

Isn't him not being a Conservative, and not being Labour enough to get him elected?

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 and no one in London now speaks English.........

 

   Did you just make that up ?

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Does anyone really care what he shouts?

Isn't him not being a Conservative, and not being Labour enough to get him elected?

 

We'll find out in 2028.......although I suspect Reform will crash and burn well before then.

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Did you just make that up ?

 

Considering the staggering number of thumbs down you continually receive for your posts I'm surprised you don't keep your head down.....5555

 

Nigel Farage has made several remarks expressing discomfort with the prevalence of non-English languages spoken in London and other parts of the UK. In a 2014 speech, he stated that in many areas of England, “you don’t hear English spoken any more,” describing the country as having become “unrecognisable” due to immigration. 

 

He recounted a specific experience on a commuter train from Charing Cross, noting that he didn’t hear English being spoken until the train had passed several stops. He admitted this made him feel “slightly awkward” and “uncomfortable,” explaining that he doesn’t understand foreign languages and thus feels uneasy in such situations. 

 

Farage has also criticized Uber drivers in London for not speaking English and lacking knowledge of the city, contrasting them with traditional black cab drivers who undergo rigorous training. 

 

Additionally, he has argued that NHS workers who cannot speak English properly should not be employed, emphasizing the importance of a common language for effective communication in healthcare settings. 

 

Yes....I made it up.

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Did you just make that up ?

That's actually true, I was back there in 2016, and almost nobody I encountered around Bayswater Road spoke English as a first language. The studio apartment I lived in (overlooking Kensington Gardens), all the other residents (14) appeared to have Latino names of some sort. All the shop workers around Queensway were clearly from the Indian and Asian continents. I even encountered a Thai ladyboy while walking in Kensington gardens. The only decent English speakers I encountered were the Black British people operating the underground at Bayswater and Queensway tube stations.

 

Not at all what I was expecting, but everyone was surprisingly helpful and polite.

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

That's actually true, I was back there in 2016, and almost nobody I encountered around Bayswater Road spoke English as a first language. The studio apartment I lived in (overlooking Kensington Gardens), all the other residents (14) appeared to have Latino names of some sort. All the shop workers around Queensway were clearly from the Indian and Asian continents. I even encountered a Thai ladyboy while walking in Kensington gardens. The only decent English speakers I encountered were the Black British people operating the underground at Bayswater and Queensway tube stations.

 

I suspect he was suggesting that Farage would never have said something so inflammatory and potentially racist .......rather than whether it is true no one speaks English in London.

7 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Considering the staggering number of thumbs down you continually receive for your posts I'm surprised you don't keep your head down.....5555

 

Nigel Farage has made several remarks expressing discomfort with the prevalence of non-English languages spoken in London and other parts of the UK. In a 2014 speech, he stated that in many areas of England, “you don’t hear English spoken any more,” describing the country as having become “unrecognisable” due to immigration. 

 

He recounted a specific experience on a commuter train from Charing Cross, noting that he didn’t hear English being spoken until the train had passed several stops. He admitted this made him feel “slightly awkward” and “uncomfortable,” explaining that he doesn’t understand foreign languages and thus feels uneasy in such situations. 

 

Farage has also criticized Uber drivers in London for not speaking English and lacking knowledge of the city, contrasting them with traditional black cab drivers who undergo rigorous training. 

 

Additionally, he has argued that NHS workers who cannot speak English properly should not be employed, emphasizing the importance of a common language for effective communication in healthcare settings. 

 

Yes....I made it up.

 

  Nowhere does the above back up your claim that he said

 

 "and no one in London now speaks English........

 

You did make that bit up 

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

That's actually true, I was back there in 2016, and almost nobody I encountered around Bayswater Road spoke English as a first language.

 

   There is a difference between not speaking English at all and speaking English not as their first language .

   Two different things 

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Nowhere does the above back up your claim that he said

 

 "and no one in London now speaks English........

 

You did make that bit up 

 

You never read it did you?......read the last line.