3 hours ago, BLMFem said:

I saw something months ago about Canada (I think it was even bipartisan) looking to establish export facilities on your east coast to greatly increase your ability to export petroleum products to Europe. Is that something that is likely to happen?

 

Not without a pipeline.

2 hours ago, Purdey said:

I am waiting for Russia to declare that they are taking back Alaska because they were cheated in the negotiation.

 

You're sticking up for Russia now ?

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

So what the heck is Carney planning to do?

 

Everything he can to minimize the damage Trump is inflicting on Canada? And as his opposite number is unpredictable, without any long term plans, surrounded by lickspittles, on an obvious downward mental trajectory and seemingly confused about who signed the trade deal he now so opposes in the first place, he really has his work cut out for him.

Good luck Carney, I really wouldn't wanna be in your shoes.

2 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Everything he can to minimize the damage Trump is inflicting on Canada? And as his opposite number is unpredictable, without any long term plans, surrounded by lickspittles, on an obvious downward mental trajectory and seemingly confused about who signed the trade deal he now so opposes in the first place, he really has his work cut out for him.

Good luck Carney, I really wouldn't wanna be in your shoes.

 

Me neither. Trudeau made a total mess of Canada.

23 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

It is a great idea but difficult to do. The province of Quebec is very very pro "clean" energy and is reluctant to allow a pipeline through their territory.  Then there are the natives to pacify/bribe....

Another line to the west coast, to supply Asia, would be easier. Best of all would be to build refineries to turn our own crude oil into usable products, THEN ship them overseas. But the previous government stood in the way of all that for a decade. 

I have to confess that Carney has been a pleasant surprise up to now. I am a died in the wool Conservative and was dreading a continuation of the previous Trudeau government's policies. Fingers crossed...

Supposing Quebec and any native tribes could be brought onboard quickly what kind of time frame are we talking about  for the East Coast option? Surely, this is something that must have been discussed already.

38 minutes ago, flexomike said:

I was talking about you, do I need to draw a picture

You probably should as you're not very good with words.

2 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Supposing Quebec and any native tribes could be brought onboard quickly what kind of time frame are we talking about  for the East Coast option? Surely, this is something that must have been discussed already.

Minimum 10 years.  It is a LOOONG way from Alberta to the east coast. 

Haha... That's exactly what I thought, when I watched them sitting there. 😆 

10 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Me neither. Trudeau made a total mess of Canada.

 

C'mon, will ya? It's not his fault he's a good looking guy who became the dream f*** of a woman who most likely hasn't had a good shag since before she got married, and who's husband, feeling cuckolded, lashed out at Canada since has the emotional maturity of a 5 y/o.

5 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

 

C'mon, will ya? It's not his fault he's a good looking guy who became the dream f*** of a woman who most likely hasn't had a good shag since before she got married, and who's husband, feeling cuckolded, lashed out at Canada since has the emotional maturity of a 5 y/o.

 

Because it's 2015.

6 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Because it's 2015.

You're living in the past,

2 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

You're living in the past,

 

Because it's 2015. 

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Unfortunately for you USA haters thats not very likely, maybe close to the realm of stupid fantasy.

So a bit like annexing Greenland, orCa ada for that matter?

On 5/7/2025 at 2:41 PM, BritManToo said:

Who on earth cares what Canadians think?

Who cares what Poms think.

11 hours ago, BLMFem said:

I saw something months ago about Canada (I think it was even bipartisan) looking to establish export facilities on your east coast to greatly increase your ability to export petroleum products to Europe. Is that something that is likely to happen?

 

Or Canadian ports to do rather well offloading those Chinese built container ships, then for the load to be trucked to railheads into the US. Won't avoid tariffs, but certainly avoids the barmy ship fees. Seattle will lose out, and it might finish off Tacoma as a viable port.

11 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Minimum 10 years.  It is a LOOONG way from Alberta to the east coast. 

Not so far to Hudson's Bay, and that's beginning to open up as a port, thanks to climate change.

40 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Not so far to Hudson's Bay, and that's beginning to open up as a port, thanks to climate change.

 

Climate change vs build a new pipeline that will cause more damage. Hmmmm

16 hours ago, xylophone said:

trump's head is an empty vessel, so Mark Carney would have found nothing in there!!!

Yes that why he was elected president , three (3) times .

And why he is a billionair , because his head is an empty vessel. 😄

 

35 minutes ago, FlorC said:

Yes that why he was elected president , three (3) times .

And why he is a billionair , because his head is an empty vessel. 😄

 

Yes that why he was elected president , three (3) times.

If proof were needed as to the gullibility of the Maga cult followers, then here it is:-

Elected president 3 times????? (stop drinking the Kool Aid and believing his lies, or better still, see someone about your condition).

 

And he is a billionaire because of daddy's money, his lying and grifting and because of his gullible cult followers of which you are one. LOL!!

8 hours ago, gargamon said:

Not so far to Hudson's Bay, and that's beginning to open up as a port, thanks to climate change.

I doubt that 300 metre long tankers and LNG carriers would ever be able to manoeuver into Hudson's Bay, regardless of the climate. Even if the shipping lane were marginally open in winter, the drift ice would make it unspeakable dangerous. 

4 hours ago, FlorC said:

Yes that why he was elected president , three (3) times .

And why he is a billionair , because his head is an empty vessel. 😄

 

Anyone that actually thinks he won three times is a sad example of an empty vessel.

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

I doubt that 300 metre long tankers and LNG carriers would ever be able to manoeuver into Hudson's Bay, regardless of the climate. Even if the shipping lane were marginally open in winter, the drift ice would make it unspeakable dangerous. 

A quick check on Google Earth tells me Hudson Bay is abt. 500 nm across and twice that longitudinally. That's more than enough water to shelter the entire world fleet of LNG carriers. GE isn't great at showing water depths but there seems to be water depth enough most places.

The presence of drift ice could complicate things but not to the extent that it wouldn't be doable. I'm not saying it could be a 365 days/year operation but IMO it could certainly be an option for Canada.

27 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

A quick check on Google Earth tells me Hudson Bay is abt. 500 nm across and twice that longitudinally. That's more than enough water to shelter the entire world fleet of LNG carriers. GE isn't great at showing water depths but there seems to be water depth enough most places.

The presence of drift ice could complicate things but not to the extent that it wouldn't be doable. I'm not saying it could be a 365 days/year operation but IMO it could certainly be an option for Canada.

You know, if it could be done, then I would say go for it. Hope you are right.  

 

Also, the crude needs to be processed and refined before shipping, and the biggest refineries in Canada are in the east.  So in the long run it may be easier to use existing ports/refineries and build a pipeline than to make a much shorter pipeline but need to build a new deepwater port facility.

10 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

I doubt that 300 metre long tankers and LNG carriers would ever be able to manoeuver into Hudson's Bay, regardless of the climate. Even if the shipping lane were marginally open in winter, the drift ice would make it unspeakable dangerous. 

Have you ever once looked at a map of Canada? Or Hudson's Bay? Hudson's Bay is almost as big as the gulf of Mexico. I'm sure a 300m tanker wouldn't have a problem.

4 hours ago, gargamon said:

Have you ever once looked at a map of Canada? Or Hudson's Bay? Hudson's Bay is almost as big as the gulf of Mexico. I'm sure a 300m tanker wouldn't have a problem.

That far north they have incredible currents the tides are incredibly high to incredibly low creating those conditions…not conducive to safety ….just saying.

On 5/7/2025 at 12:20 AM, johng said:

Strange how he praised Trump in the first few minutes of the meeting

Perhaps he knew that Trump was instrumental in getting him installed

for what reason Trump wanted that we wait and see.

 

 

I think you are mistaken mr carney is a carful thoughtful man trying to do the best he can for his country,obviously he’s consulted with experts on how to deal with someone who has trumps illness of malignant narcissistic personality disorder.

On 5/7/2025 at 1:33 PM, BLMFem said:

Canadian PM Says He’s Glad Trump Couldn’t Read His Mind in Oval Office

https://www.thedailybeast.com/canadian-pm-says-hes-glad-trump-couldnt-read-his-mind-in-oval-office/

 

"Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney seemed to admit that he was seething in the Oval Office Tuesday as President Donald Trump taunted him to his face about annexing his country.

When a reporter asked after the sit-down what was going through his head while he listened to Trump, Carney had an acerbic answer.

“Well, thank you—I guess—for your question,” Carney began. “I am glad you could not tell what was going through my mind.”"

I think it's vice versa 😂

On 5/7/2025 at 8:33 AM, BLMFem said:

Canadian PM Says He’s Glad Trump Couldn’t Read His Mind in Oval Office

https://www.thedailybeast.com/canadian-pm-says-hes-glad-trump-couldnt-read-his-mind-in-oval-office/

 

"Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney seemed to admit that he was seething in the Oval Office Tuesday as President Donald Trump taunted him to his face about annexing his country.

When a reporter asked after the sit-down what was going through his head while he listened to Trump, Carney had an acerbic answer.

“Well, thank you—I guess—for your question,” Carney began. “I am glad you could not tell what was going through my mind.”"

I guess he wanted to hit Trump in the face too! It must have been hard not to do it!!