Social Media Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Trump Undermines Carney in First Official Meeting, Leaving New Canadian PM Looking Outmatched What was supposed to be a cordial first meeting between U.S. President Donald Trump and Canada’s new prime minister, Mark Carney, quickly turned into a public display of political imbalance. Despite a polite opening exchange and an amiable handshake, the Oval Office session on Tuesday ended with Carney appearing overwhelmed and outmaneuvered by a far more media-savvy and aggressive counterpart. This was down right embarrassing. Anyone who elected Carney because he was the person to deal with Trump should be hanging their heads in shame about now. Elbows up 🤡 pic.twitter.com/NtbFoymmN9 — Kevin Pacitti 🇨🇦🇮🇹🇬🇧 (@kpac_15) May 6, 2025 Speculation before Carney’s arrival in Washington had suggested that tensions between the two leaders—exacerbated by Trump’s continued use of tariffs and Carney’s anti-Trump campaign rhetoric—might erupt into an open confrontation. But while a shouting match never materialized, the result was arguably more damaging for the Canadian leader: a calm but unmistakable demonstration of his lack of experience on the global stage. Carney had won office in part on the promise of being a more capable international statesman than his predecessor, Justin Trudeau. During his victory speech, Carney accused Trump of trying to “break us, so that America can own us,” and defiantly declared, “that will never, ever happen.” Yet, on Tuesday, seated beside the U.S. president in front of the press, he appeared to retreat from that bold rhetoric. I cannot tell you how absolutely embarrassed I am as a Canadian. During the meeting Carney spoke for: 3:18 Minutes Trump spoke for: 29:47 Minutes Thank you for letting Donald Trump embarrass all of Canada for a half hour, while you sat there like a silent coward! I cannot tell you how absolutely embarrassed I am as a Canadian. During the meeting Carney spoke for: 3:18 Minutes Trump spoke for: 29:47 Minutes Thank you for letting Donald Trump embarrass all of Canada for a half hour, while you sat there like a silent coward! 🤦♂️ pic.twitter.com/QElVp0TTTv — Vesper (@vesperdigital) May 6, 2025 Throughout the session, Trump dominated the conversation, speaking at length and making pointed, often provocative comments while Carney mostly watched on in silence. When he did attempt to interject, he was largely brushed aside. The most striking moment came when Trump casually claimed, “I think I was probably the greatest thing that happened to him,” referring to Carney’s election. Carney looked toward the reporters with a mixture of discomfort and disbelief, but offered no strong rebuttal. Things became even more awkward when a journalist asked about the idea of Canada becoming the 51st U.S. state. Carney’s visible unease contrasted sharply with Trump’s casual bravado. “Well, I still believe that… but it takes two to tango, right?” Trump said with a grin. He continued by extolling the supposed benefits of such a union: “I believe it would be a massive tax cut for the Canadian citizens. You get free military, tremendous medical care and other things.” Trump, slipping into his developer persona, added, “It would be nice to get rid of that artificially drawn line” between the two nations. Carney eventually responded with a well-crafted line: “As you know from real estate, there are some places that are never for sale. We’re sitting in one right now… Buckingham Palace, you visited as well.” Trump laughed and admitted, “that’s true.” The prime minister tried to build on the moment, saying, “Having met with the owners of Canada over the course of the campaign…it’s not for sale. It won’t be for sale, ever.” But Trump quickly deflated the sentiment with a simple, “Never say never,” a line that left Carney smiling faintly but saying nothing more. For a leader whose political brand is built on international competence and a promise to stand firm in the face of U.S. pressure, Carney’s performance was lackluster. His silence and strained body language betrayed an air of resignation. Despite one clever remark, he came away looking deferential and overmatched. Trump, on the other hand, seemed visibly pleased. He had already played a key role in shaping the political landscape north of the border—undermining Trudeau, checking Conservative momentum under Pierre Poilievre, and helping ensure the rise of a more pliable Liberal leader in Carney. Tuesday’s meeting served as a public confirmation of that influence. For Trump, it was a strategic win. For Carney, it was a sobering reminder that leadership on the world stage requires more than diplomatic poise—it demands command. And in that room, at that moment, only one of them had it. Adpated by ASEAN Now from The Telegraph | X 2025-05-09 2 1 10 8
Popular Post Tug Posted 13 hours ago Popular Post Posted 13 hours ago Carney is a deliberate thoughtful man a trained banker,trump is a loudmouth bully to me the bluster means nothing .elbows up Canada until trump folds.the trick is with trump is to let him think he got one over so he can strut around(shuffle around) thinking he ripped you off.then just carry the economic win to the bank as trump bellows about how great he is. 7 3 2 13 7 4 2
Popular Post Woke to Sounds Posted 13 hours ago Popular Post Posted 13 hours ago Well, Canadians wanted more Liberal and they got it. That said, much respect for Carns who remained calm and collected. ✊ He will likely open up Alberta and Sask oil, plus LNG from British Columbia soon, now that the numbers for Net Zero just don't compute. 3 1 1 2
JonnyF Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Carney was acting like the tough guy until he actually came face to face with the man. Then he shrunk. Perhaps next time he shouldn't allow his mouth to write cheques that his minerals cannot cash. Typical cowardly Liberal. Good luck Canda. You'll need it. 3 3 4 20 1 5
Popular Post bwanajohn Posted 13 hours ago Popular Post Posted 13 hours ago Actually letting Trump blather on is a pretty good strategy... 4 13 1 4 1 1
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Popular Post soalbundy Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago 19 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Carney was acting like the tough guy until he actually came face to face with the man. Then he shrunk. Perhaps next time he shouldn't allow his mouth to write cheques that his minerals cannot cash. Typical cowardly Liberal. Good luck Canda. You'll need it. He was right not to argue with a fool, Carney would have been dragged down to his level. Trump saves his sycophantic side for people like Putin, Kim and Xi. 4 7 4 3 5
Popular Post Woke to Sounds Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago Long game being played folks. North American Union. Single currency a la Euro. 1 1 1 1 4
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago Anyone who's ever had any dealings with Trump knows that it's best just to keep your mouth shut and let him go on and on, talking nonsense and making an absolute fool of himself. That's what he does best, Carney was shrewd and he played it smart. While Trump embarrassed himself for the 12,345th time. 3 10 4 1 1 4
impulse Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago From the OP photo, it looks like he's wondering if it really has a mushroom tip. 3
save the frogs Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 11 hours ago, Tug said: trump is a loudmouth bully Is Trump really being a bully? Or is he spewing what he already knows that has been planned by the elites? I'm not even sure joining with Canada is only Trump's idea. It has probably been discussed at secret meeting at the WEF in Davos. And it's probably already in the planning phases. And maybe Carney is playing dumb by pretending he doesn't know anything about it to not make Canadians too nervous. 1 1 1 6 4
Popular Post Patong2021 Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago Telegraph's version of events is contrary to every other information source which praised Carney's performance. Getting into a pissing match with a skunk never ends well. Carney took the high road and said what needed to be said publicly. Some people wanted to see a confrontation and are disappointed. Nothing would have been gained by it. Carney corrected several errors by Trump and made the points he needed to make. If all of the Canadian political parties and provincial premiers were not critical of the meeting, that says something. 1 7 1 4 4
Popular Post Tug Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago Just now, save the frogs said: Is Trump really being a bully? Or is he spewing what he already knows that has been planned by the elites? I'm not even sure joining with Canada is only Trump's idea. It has probably been discussed at secret meeting at the WEF in Davos. And it's probably already in the planning phases. And maybe Carney is playing dumb by pretending he doesn't know anything about it to not make Canadians too nervous. Everything in trumps life starting in his school days has been the behavior of a bully everything.Its what he is he has been insulated by wealth and power all his life and has never ever faced the consequences of his behavior.so yes trump is trying to be the bulley that’s his essence it is what he is.carney is a thoughtful deliberate trained successful banker he won’t wrestle in the sewage with trump.elbow's up my northern brothers and sisters you hold many strong cards.!! 4 4 3 2 1 1
Popular Post HappyExpat57 Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago I wholeheartedly disagree with the very opinionated slant of this article. The Canadian PM is a clever, experienced, articulate leader and made it quite clear what Canada's position was. 1 9 8 2 1 3
Bkk Brian Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 57 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Carney was acting like the tough guy until he actually came face to face with the man. Then he shrunk. Perhaps next time he shouldn't allow his mouth to write cheques that his minerals cannot cash. Typical cowardly Liberal. Good luck Canda. You'll need it. Correct, the meeting was awkward to say the least and Trump's upper hand was evident. But more importantly Carney has a lot of work to do in Canada left by the previous PM. Immigration needs to be one which became out of control. 1 1 5 1
Popular Post Patong2021 Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, save the frogs said: Is Trump really being a bully? Or is he spewing what he already knows that has been planned by the elites? I'm not even sure joining with Canada is only Trump's idea. It has probably been discussed at secret meeting at the WEF in Davos. And it's probably already in the planning phases. And maybe Carney is playing dumb by pretending he doesn't know anything about it to not make Canadians too nervous. Such nonsense. There is no WEF conspiracy, and there will be no joining of Canada with the USA. Why would you think that the 2nd largest country in the world that is wealthy with natural resources would even accept being a single state on the same level as Rhode Island or Alabama? Why would you think that the Republicans would welcome tens of millions of voters who would pick a democrat over a republican candidate and could determine the fate of US elections? 34 minutes ago, bwanajohn said: Actually letting Trump blather on is a pretty good strategy... Yes it was. Trump made a fool of himself with his repeated lies. 43 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Carney was acting like the tough guy until he actually came face to face with the man. Then he shrunk. Perhaps next time he shouldn't allow his mouth to write cheques that his minerals cannot cash. Typical cowardly Liberal. Good luck Canda. You'll need it. Did you even watch the event? Carney neither backed down nor yielded ground. He corrected several false claims made by Trump. He also got Trump to admit that there is no likelihood of Canada becoming a 51st state. PM Carney is no coward. On the contrary, as a former bank governor he is used to cleaning up the messes of politicians. And as a PhD in economics he was able to dismantle the political economical theories of Peter Navarro when Carney and Trump had lunch after the meeting. That lunch meeting focused on international topics with Trump soliciting carney's views. The meeting was a success because it reduced the animosity fever that gripped some of the Americans. It also helped that the US is feeling some pain from its Canadian product tariffs. Visitor numbers are way down and Canadians who are the USA's largest market are cutting back on US purchases. 3 1 2 2 3 6
lavender19 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Carney is a WEF puppet. Trained banker? He nearly wrecked the bank of England. Read his track record there. 1 1 11 4
Popular Post Patong2021 Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Correct, the meeting was awkward to say the least and Trump's upper hand was evident. But more importantly Carney has a lot of work to do in Canada left by the previous PM. Immigration needs to be one which became out of control. The awkwardness was with Trump as he made one idiotic lie after another. The previous Canadian PM implemented social policies that a majority of Canadians were in favour of . You don't see too many people refusing the new drug coverage or the improved childcare or the new dental care coverage. Much of the expansion of social services came at the request of minority parties in their parliament. 3 4 3 1 2
Popular Post Patong2021 Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, lavender19 said: Carney is a WEF puppet. Trained banker? He nearly wrecked the bank of England. Read his track record there. Perhaps you nonsensical claims will be better received at a one of the websites that caters to extreme right wing groups. 3 4 5 5
Bkk Brian Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Patong2021 said: The awkwardness was with Trump as he made one idiotic lie after another. The previous Canadian PM implemented social policies that a majority of Canadians were in favour of . You don't see too many people refusing the new drug coverage or the improved childcare or the new dental care coverage. Much of the expansion of social services came at the request of minority parties in their parliament. From a Canadian: cannot tell you how absolutely embarrassed I am as a Canadian. During the meeting Carney spoke for: 3:18 Minutes Trump spoke for: 29:47 Minutes Thank you for letting Donald Trump embarrass all of Canada for a half hour, while you sat there like a silent coward! 1 1 3
Popular Post JAG Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago 58 minutes ago, bwanajohn said: Actually letting Trump blather on is a pretty good strategy... Yes, you can't stop him, he is like a radio when the pressel switch is stuck - on permanent send! Carney quite calmly said just what he wanted, had to say, "you're not getting Canada - end of story". Trump just, as you succinctly put it, blathered on. It was fascinating watching the look on Carneys face as he listened to Trump blustering away. 6 2 2 1
Popular Post Colki Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago This is in complete contrast to reports I read and saw of the encounter between the two. Commentators showed how Carney mastered Trump with comments like " during my campaign I spoke with the owners of Canada and they will never sell". You do not need to mouth off to make a simple factual comment. 3 5 4
Popular Post Patong2021 Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: From a Canadian: cannot tell you how absolutely embarrassed I am as a Canadian. During the meeting Carney spoke for: 3:18 Minutes Trump spoke for: 29:47 Minutes Thank you for letting Donald Trump embarrass all of Canada for a half hour, while you sat there like a silent coward! And yet, that is not the sentiment that is appearing on Canadian social media or the major news networks. One anonymous cherry picked comment from an aggregator program using the Telegraph as a source is not definitive evidence of Canadian sentiment. try these; https://nowtoronto.com/news/canadians-react-to-mark-carneys-meeting-with-donald-trump-where-51st-state-comments-were-discussed/ https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cj3x36zpg13o https://www.ctvnews.ca/video/2025/05/07/ctv-national-news-why-trumps-meeting-with-carney-matters-to-americans/ https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/body-language-expert-says-trump-showed-respect-in-meeting-with-carney/ 2 2 2
frank83628 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Sum num nah Canada, you voted more against Trump than for your own country. 1 2 4
RamblingOn Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, Woke to Sounds said: Well, Canadians wanted more Liberal and they got it. That said, much respect for Carns who remained calm and collected. ✊ He will likely open up Alberta and Sask oil, plus LNG from British Columbia soon, now that the numbers for Net Zero just don't compute. I hate the phrase "That said"!! Always have. 2
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Colki said: This is in complete contrast to reports I read and saw of the encounter between the two. Commentators showed how Carney mastered Trump with comments like " during my campaign I spoke with the owners of Canada and they will never sell". You do not need to mouth off to make a simple factual comment. Carney knew not to argue with someone who believes his own lies. 1 6 1
lavender19 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 57 minutes ago, Patong2021 said: Perhaps you nonsensical claims will be better received at a one of the websites that caters to extreme right wing groups. Probably would as there seem to be a lot of brainwashed leftards on here. Please point out why it is nonsensical 1 8 1
Thingamabob Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said: I wholeheartedly disagree with the very opinionated slant of this article. The Canadian PM is a clever, experienced, articulate leader and made it quite clear what Canada's position was. His tenure at the BoE was less than inspiring. 2
Popular Post Stargeezr Posted 10 hours ago Popular Post Posted 10 hours ago Trump supporters are like pickles and we all know that you cannot tell a pickle anything. That is in my opinion of course. Thankfully Trump will only be in power a maximum of 4 years. I hope the USA enjoys the resession that Trump is making with his tafiffs. 1 3 1 2
Bkk Brian Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 46 minutes ago, Patong2021 said: And yet, that is not the sentiment that is appearing on Canadian social media or the major news networks. One anonymous cherry picked comment from an aggregator program using the Telegraph as a source is not definitive evidence of Canadian sentiment. try these; https://nowtoronto.com/news/canadians-react-to-mark-carneys-meeting-with-donald-trump-where-51st-state-comments-were-discussed/ https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cj3x36zpg13o https://www.ctvnews.ca/video/2025/05/07/ctv-national-news-why-trumps-meeting-with-carney-matters-to-americans/ https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/body-language-expert-says-trump-showed-respect-in-meeting-with-carney/ Yet it is the sentiment from the Canadian I quoted.....!! 1
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