Clash of the Titans: Trump and Musk's Public Fallout Sends Shockwaves Through Washington

[blaze master]

1 minute ago, sharot724 said:

maga attacking maga Can't get any better. Oh wait Trump Musk defacng each other same same

 

Are you really this dumb ? 

[Hummin]

Apparently high meeting activity in the White House now. Breaking news, 

[JaxxBKK]

1 minute ago, sharot724 said:

maga attacking maga Can't get any better. Oh wait Trump Musk defacng each other same same

 

This is so absolutely inane. In the absolutely lengthy post above I went out of my way to describe myself as not aligning with maga.

 

I believe that blaze Master may also feel similar given his response here.

 

So, two people in support of fiscal sobriety twisted to an insult and mocking post. How very typical.

 

Your post is also somewhat illiterate if I might say so.

[sharot724]

14 minutes ago, JaxxBKK said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just emotion ...

I think your post was third grade level 

[JaxxBKK]

As I predicted yesterday. The auto pen/staffing issues within the White House of Biden administration now completely dropped in favor of chasing some salacious story today. The typical board miscreants and unemployed have proven me correct once again. Out in force this morning - or shall I say evening for for those in the UK and us that are almost all posters in this thread.

 

It's especially tiresome seeing your posts Mike. You absolutely do not live in Thailand. This is fact. Nevertheless, you seem to waste endless amounts of your time  -taken away from those four fabulous businesses you have yet to detail the impact of the Trump administration upon. By businesses I mean you drop ship wine on Amazon amirite??

 

 

[JaxxBKK]

1 minute ago, sharot724 said:

I think your post was third grade level 

You'd know...you write at that level.

 

[JaxxBKK]

9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Apparently high meeting activity in the White House now. Breaking news, 

 

Really, where's the source or is this just a lie to appear humourous?

[Felton Jarvis]

The Trump saga gets more perverted and hilarious with every passing week. This will not end well.

[blaze master]

1 minute ago, Felton Jarvis said:

The Trump saga gets more perverted and hilarious with every passing week. This will not end well.

 

I did mention a month or so ago that  peak Trump had already been reached. 

 

Back to my yummy bowl of maga cereal.

[Hummin]

Just now, JaxxBKK said:

 

Really, where's the source or is this just a lie to appear humourous?

 

 

[MalcolmB]

I think this is just a reflection on American men in general.

95% of one’s I have met and seen carry on like bitching Karens. 
It is their culture.

They remind me of dumb women.

[sharot724]

15 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Apparently high meeting activity in the White House now. Breaking news, 

Elon Musk Declares That He's "Immediately" Cutting Off NASA's Access to Space

[JonnyF]

Great banter between these two.

 

Political theatre at it's finest. 

 

Top bombing. 😀

[bamnutsak]

3 hours ago, Social Media said:

including a pointed and evidence-free insinuation that Trump might be mentioned in unreleased documents related to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstei

 

Half expecting musk to call trump a "pedo guy"?

 

Jokingly, of course.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter

 

 

 

 

[Hummin]

Just now, sharot724 said:

Elon Musk Declares That He's "Immediately" Cutting Off NASA's Access to Space

Waiting for him being arrested, dies in an violent accident or suicide 

[soalbundy]

1 hour ago, daveAustin said:

Clash of the children more like. Inevitable that this kind of thing would happen between two narcissistic kids. Wonder what the maga lot think of it. 

Not much, it's just two vulgar men with huge egos having a fight in the playground, the low intellectual capacity of the maga mob will cause them to side with Trump, unless they are unemployed with maxed-out credit cards due to his tariffs or line workers at Tesla now fearful of their jobs. It's degrading but it's the American way. 

[Social Media]

UPDATE:

 

Musk Strikes Back: SpaceX Grounds Dragon Spacecraft Amid Clash with Trump

 

Musk Strikes Back: SpaceX Grounds Dragon Spacecraft Amid Clash with Trump

 

Elon Musk has escalated his feud with President Donald Trump by announcing the grounding of Dragon, the spacecraft used to ferry astronauts and cargo to and from the International Space Station. The dramatic move, revealed Thursday on Musk’s social media platform X, marks a significant shift in U.S. space operations and deepens the political fallout between two of the country’s most influential figures.

 

“In light of the President’s statement about cancellation of my government contracts, @SpaceX will begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft immediately,” Musk wrote. His post included a screenshot of Trump’s earlier threat to terminate federal subsidies and contracts linked to Musk’s vast portfolio of companies.

 

The implications of SpaceX pulling Dragon from service are potentially severe. Dragon is the only operational spacecraft capable of returning large quantities of cargo to Earth, and it was the first privately built craft to transport humans to the space station. Its grounding could disrupt NASA's ability to execute routine missions, particularly given the limited alternatives for human-rated spaceflight and cargo delivery currently available.

 

NASA, in a measured response, expressed its intention to proceed with the administration’s plans for space exploration. “We will continue to execute upon the President’s vision for the future of space. We will continue to work with our industry partners to ensure the President’s objectives in space are met,” wrote NASA press secretary Bethany Stevens on X. The agency stopped short of commenting on how it would immediately address the vacuum left by SpaceX’s departure from ISS operations.

 

This high-stakes development is the latest in a fast-unfolding feud between Musk and Trump. The rupture began as a simmering disagreement earlier in the week and exploded into public view on Thursday, when Musk accused the president—without presenting evidence—of being named in classified documents connected to the late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

 

Trump, for his part, has not shied away from responding in kind. In remarks at the White House, he lashed out at Musk for criticizing his economic policies and downplayed the billionaire’s influence in the 2024 election. He further implied that Musk was turning against him now that Tesla, his electric vehicle company, stands to lose financially under Republican plans to roll back EV tax credits.

 

The situation quickly devolved into a public slugfest, with Trump threatening to eliminate government contracts to Musk’s companies, and Musk countering by taking direct action that could jeopardize critical federal programs. The decision to ground Dragon is not only a technological and logistical setback for the Trump administration but also a calculated political maneuver from Musk, who appears determined to leverage his industrial empire in this personal dispute.

 

As tensions mount, neither man seems willing to back down. Musk’s role in the Trump administration—as head of the now-dismantled Department of Government Efficiency—once signaled an unusual alliance between Silicon Valley innovation and conservative governance. That relationship, however, has now fractured spectacularly, with real-world consequences that could extend far beyond Washington.

 

Musk, whose companies span sectors from space travel to artificial intelligence and automotive technology, has shown he is not afraid to use his platforms—both digital and literal—as weapons in a political fight. The question now is how far he’s willing to go, and how the federal government, already rattled by the abrupt change in space strategy, plans to adapt.

 

With the International Space Station depending heavily on Dragon for both supplies and crew rotations, and with few other options ready to step in, the feud between the billionaire and the president may soon extend beyond rhetoric—into orbit.

 

  Adapted by ASEAN Now from The Hill  2025-06-06

 

 

[HappyExpat57]

26 minutes ago, sharot724 said:

Elon Musk Declares That He's "Immediately" Cutting Off NASA's Access to Space

Steve Bannon is sending the clarion call to seize SpaceX, nationalize it (nationalizing something means the government takes control and ownership of it), and deport Musk. Have to say I agree with that pig of a man on this one.

[HappyExpat57]

4 minutes ago, Social Media said:

Musk Strikes Back: SpaceX Grounds Dragon Spacecraft Amid Clash with Trump

I can't believe Musk doesn't realize that, as powerful and wealthy as he is, 47 has the full force of the mightiest military in written history at his disposal and will SMOKE his ketamine-fueled ass.

[Cameroni]

8 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

I can't believe Musk doesn't realize that, as powerful and wealthy as he is, 47 has the full force of the mightiest military in written history at his disposal and will SMOKE his ketamine-fueled ass.

 

It is extremely foolish, as you pointed out Trump could nationalise Tesla and Space X. Especially now that Musk grounded Dragon, that alone could be a reason to nationalise Space X.

 

Maybe the Ketamine is taking its toll on Musk.

 

Trump could even rescind his US passport and ban him from entering the US.

 

[HappyExpat57]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

It is extremely foolish, as you pointed out Trump could nationalise Tesla and Space X. Especially now that Musk grounded Dragon, that alone could be a reason to nationalise Space X.

 

Maybe the Ketamine is taking its toll on Musk.

 

 

On what grounds could he nationalize Tesla? SpaceX I get, how is Tesla a national threat (other than the Tesla Cybertruck - which is 17 Times More Likely For Fire Fatalities Than Ford Pinto without being investigated - but that's a whole other can of worms)?

[jerrymahoney]

Just a quickie from AI Gemini:

In the United States, while nationalization (government taking control of a business) is generally possible, it typically involves compensation to the original owners, as mandated by the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. This ensures "just compensation" is paid when the government takes private property, including businesses.

-- then Elon could then go back to his real business of making more kids.

[Cameroni]

3 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

On what grounds could he nationalize Tesla? SpaceX I get, how is Tesla a national threat (other than the Tesla Cybertruck - which is 17 Times More Likely For Fire Fatalities Than Ford Pinto without being investigated - but that's a whole other can of worms)?

 

Well, he could nationalise Space X on the grounds that Musk has prevented Dragon from aiding NASA as it was supposed to. That alone could be argued to lead to a need for nationalising Space X.

 

Trump could nationalise Tesla on safety concerns, given the many accidents Tesla has caused with its self driving software.

[LosLobo]

Trump vs. Musk: 8 Ways Their Feud Could Unfold

The growing feud between President Donald Trump and Elon Musk could have significant political and economic consequences. Here are eight ways their conflict could escalate:

What Musk Could Do:

1. Fund Opposition Campaigns: Musk could use his billions to fund campaigns against Trump and Republicans, even withholding the final $100 million of his pledge to support Trump.

2. Social Media as a Weapon: He could leverage X (formerly Twitter) to stir controversy, like proposing a new political party and supporting Trump’s impeachment.

3. Expose Trump: Musk might drag Trump into controversy by alleging that Trump’s administration delayed the release of Epstein-related files due to his involvement.

4. Disrupt Government Operations: Musk could threaten to decommission SpaceX’s Dragon spacecraft, halting critical NASA operations.

What Trump Could Do:

1. Cut Contracts: Trump could end government contracts with Musk’s companies, including SpaceX and Tesla, potentially costing Musk billions.

2. Investigate Musk: Trump could push for investigations into Musk’s naturalized citizenship and past drug use.

3. Revoke Security Clearance: Trump could revoke Musk’s top-secret clearance, making it difficult for Musk to continue his work with NASA.

4. Use Presidential Powers: Trump could use executive orders or direct investigations to target Musk’s projects or personal interests.

This high-stakes feud could reshape the political and economic landscape in unpredictable ways.

Credit: The New York Times, Kellen Browning, June 5, 2025.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/05/us/trump-elon-musk#musk-trump-attacks-feud

[Cameroni]

4 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

In the United States, while nationalization (government taking control of a business) is generally possible, it typically involves compensation to the original owners, as mandated by the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. This ensures "just compensation" is paid when the government takes private property, including businesses.

 

Compensation can be paid through government securities or bonds of public corporations created by the nationalization law, though.

 

Then Trump can blame Elon for causing the deficit to go up.

[jerrymahoney]

To the "of course" above:

just compensation
A payment the government is required to tender under the Fifth Amendment’s takings clause for property it has taken through eminent domain for some public purpose. The amount due for the property is typically its fair market value, as would be assessed by a reasonable buyer, and should generally compensate the property owner for additional expenses associated with or incurred by the taking.

The purpose of just compensation is to return the owner of the taken property to the original financial position they had been in prior to the government’s taking, as though there had been no governmental taking at all.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/just_compensation

[sharot724]

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Compensation can be paid through government securities or bonds of public corporations created by the nationalization law, though.

 

Then Trump can blame Elon for causing the deficit to go up.

bitcoin ?

[John Drake]

Just more chaos. Nothing new in Trumpworld.

[Cameroni]

4 minutes ago, sharot724 said:

bitcoin ?

 

Yes, he could amend the nationalization law to allow payment in the Trump crypto curency. Thereby boosting the value of his crypto currency and giving Musk basically glass pearls.

 

 

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

You have to admit, musk do have some characteristics and easy to ridicule especially the last 6 months, touching and tasting a little bit world power. 

And are you so blinkered that you can't say the same thing about Trump?