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Will there ever be a safe vaccine?

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6 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I would suggest that at least half the papers précised in medical magazines are fraudulent. Many papers highlighting experiments that go against the narrative don't get published.

Do you eat your lawn..........?   🤕

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  • Mark Nothing
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    No.  The entire field of virology is false.  It should be disbanded and completely shut down.  And the dictionary should use it as a perfect example for the definition of quackery.   Interes

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    Haaaahahahah!   The chiropractor 'splains!

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    Stiddle Mump

    Not yet read the transcript or watched the film (I will later), but I must respond to this great post. 'Great'? Indeed; because it gets one thinking about the truth. The whole area of germs, viruses,

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6 minutes ago, transam said:

Do you eat your lawn..........?   🤕

Don't understand that post Buddy.

 

But good to see you back posting reverting comment.

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Don't understand that post Buddy.

 

But good to see you back posting reverting comment.

Well, cows get on very well eating grass, I just thought that reading your stuff you must do something similar, otherwise your stuff is complete nonsense.................🤨

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Well, cows get on very well eating grass, I just thought that reading your stuff you must do something similar, otherwise your stuff is complete nonsense.................🤨

Why is it 'complete nonsense'? Because you say so?

 

I have stated my case on viruses many times. But they are only part of my armory.

 

My take is that most of what we think as disease/sickness/illness is nothing of the sort. The body don't do things for nothing, and has a profound ability to heal itself. Most of the illness symptoms we experience, are the body doing just that.

 

There is far more to medicine than I have posted here on AN. My book will be out soon Trans Buddy. If you would like a FREE signed copy let me know. I'll keep you informed on progress.

 

The basics of good health is so simple. It is not how the white-coats would have us believe.

 

Nature is all.

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1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Why is it 'complete nonsense'? Because you say so?

 

I have stated my case on viruses many times. But they are only part of my armory.

 

My take is that most of what we think as disease/sickness/illness is nothing of the sort. The body don't do things for nothing, and has a profound ability to heal itself. Most of the illness symptoms we experience, are the body doing just that.

 

There is far more to medicine than I have posted here on AN. My book will be out soon Trans Buddy. If you would like a FREE signed copy let me know. I'll keep you informed on progress.

 

The basics of good health is so simple. It is not how the white-coats would have us believe.

 

Nature is all.

Yes, because I say so.

We all know about being healthy, or trying to be, but you nor l do not know what might be around the corner regarding our bodies, or our onboard hereditary problems, that your grass munching has no control over.....

 

That is why I call your stuff nonsense, you are more interested in having a pop at companies making money on trying to save or help life.

 

Tell me, where does the money come from to develop life-saving medication....?

 

Where's 'your' cure for cancer, how are pharma funding the ongoing research for the key to a fix..?

In many cases cancer is in the family's genes, how do YOU fix that, hmmm, eating grass, I suppose.....🤥

 

Lastly, I think you have a screw loose........🤕

Most vaccines I had, I probably didn't need, or they didn't work.  Probably didn't need polio, and MMR obviously didn't work.   Hep given to newborns is just silly.  

 

Tetanus is questionable if I ever needed, and not kept current, with many minor injuries, and I'm still here.  Don't know when I ever had the original, but first and last booster since was here, TH was way over 10 yrs ago.  Annual flu vaccine is a joke, and nothing but a money grab.

 

Strongly believe mRNA covid shots do more harm than good, for healthy people, and seriously doubt if useful at all for high risk groups, which for my age, guess I'm included, but, NO THANKS.  There is no way to prove they did anything helpful, but plenty of proof they harmed people IMHO

 

Since not living in any 'outbreak' area of any infectious diseases, I really can't think of one vaccine I would take, or give to a child, if having.   Did get Hep shots over 20 yrs ago, after divorce here in Thailand.  Guess I have a little faith in that, although it never crossed my mind to have booster done while single in USA. 

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1 hour ago, transam said:

Where's 'your' cure for cancer, how are pharma funding the ongoing research for the key to a fix..?

In many cases cancer is in the family's genes, how do YOU fix that, hmmm, eating grass, I suppose.

Thanks for the reply Buddy. Have to establish what actually is cancer before we can sort it out.

 

For me cancer is a cell, or group of cells, that are abnormal, and cannot be gotten rid of in the normal way. I believe we are constantly eliminating abnormal cells. Most decaying and dead cells are gotten rid of 24/7/365. We don't even notice it occurring. The problems arise when out body is not up to the task, or/and, there is too much toxicity for our globulins, and other defence mechanisms, to counter.

 

What then happens, is that the body coats the renegade cells, and tucks them away. This is the start of what is commonly known as a tumor. We can live for decades with a tumor, and not be aware of it. However, if those toxins, that are the problem in the first place, keep arriving, things can get serious. Very serious.

 

Now what to do?! Obviously better to stop their development in the first place. And there are ways to approach this. But given there is a tumor, and it is stopping the proper function of an organ, or is generally making us feel lousy; what can be done?

 

First and foremost the stream of toxicity has to be stopped. The endocrine functioning must be reset to normal. This will result in the blood being made good. The local environment will then be more able to; a/ bolster the tissues around the tumor to gradually overwhelm it and absorb it. And b/ the restore the 'damaged' organ to normality.

 

How to do it? As said previously; diet is right up there. There is research showing that intense oxygen therapy shows promise. There is also research on enzymes. What enzymes are used to fight the tumor? Can these entities be encouraged to proliferate naturally? Can they be reproduced (unnaturally) and used to accelerated the tumor removal?

 

As for the idea that we are predetermined for certain things depending upon our parents; I reject that. However; I am fully aware that medication of the parents could have a profound effect on the new-born and its development. 

 

Get out there in the sun Trans. Make you feel better. Much better.

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1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Thanks for the reply Buddy. Have to establish what actually is cancer before we can sort it out.

 

For me cancer is a cell, or group of cells, that are abnormal, and cannot be gotten rid of in the normal way. I believe we are constantly eliminating abnormal cells. Most decaying and dead cells are gotten rid of 24/7/365. We don't even notice it occurring. The problems arise when out body is not up to the task, or/and, there is too much toxicity for our globulins, and other defence mechanisms, to counter.

 

What then happens, is that the body coats the renegade cells, and tucks them away. This is the start of what is commonly known as a tumor. We can live for decades with a tumor, and not be aware of it. However, if those toxins, that are the problem in the first place, keep arriving, things can get serious. Very serious.

 

Now what to do?! Obviously better to stop their development in the first place. And there are ways to approach this. But given there is a tumor, and it is stopping the proper function of an organ, or is generally making us feel lousy; what can be done?

 

First and foremost the stream of toxicity has to be stopped. The endocrine functioning must be reset to normal. This will result in the blood being made good. The local environment will then be more able to; a/ bolster the tissues around the tumor to gradually overwhelm it and absorb it. And b/ the restore the 'damaged' organ to normality.

 

How to do it? As said previously; diet is right up there. There is research showing that intense oxygen therapy shows promise. There is also research on enzymes. What enzymes are used to fight the tumor? Can these entities be encouraged to proliferate naturally? Can they be reproduced (unnaturally) and used to accelerated the tumor removal?

 

As for the idea that we are predetermined for certain things depending upon our parents; I reject that. However; I am fully aware that medication of the parents could have a profound effect on the new-born and its development. 

 

Get out there in the sun Trans. Make you feel better. Much better.

I can't stop laughing......................😆...................:cheesy:

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1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Most vaccines I had, I probably didn't need, or they didn't work.  Probably didn't need polio, and MMR obviously didn't work.   Hep given to newborns is just silly.  

 

Vaccines are not just for individual benefit - they're critical for public health. Saying you "probably didn’t need" the polio vaccine ignores the fact that polio was once a devastating global disease. Vaccines helped eradicate it in most of the world. You didn’t get polio because you were vaccinated and because others were too.

Had you not been vaccinated against polio, its likely you would not have caught it because everyone else was - herd immunity.

 

MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) is highly effective. If someone contracts one of these illnesses despite being vaccinated, it’s often due to incomplete dosing, waning immunity over time, or being exposed before full immunity developed - not because the vaccine “didn’t work.” Measles alone is incredibly contagious and can be fatal or cause lifelong damage. The idea that the hepatitis B vaccine for newborns is “silly” overlooks the fact that babies can be infected from carriers - including their mothers - without any warning. It’s about prevention before exposure, not after.

 

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Tetanus is questionable if I ever needed, and not kept current, with many minor injuries, and I'm still here.  Don't know when I ever had the original, but first and last booster since was here, TH was way over 10 yrs ago.  Annual flu vaccine is a joke, and nothing but a money grab.

 

Tetanus doesn’t spread from person to person - it’s a bacterial infection from the environment, often through small wounds. Just because you’ve been lucky so far doesn’t mean you’re immune. When tetanus strikes, it’s brutal and often fatal. The booster every 10 years is recommended because the vaccine’s protection wanes - and tetanus is one disease you can’t rely on herd immunity to avoid.

 

As for the flu vaccine, calling it a "joke" ignores real-world data: while flu shots don’t always prevent infection, they do significantly reduce severity, hospitalisations, and deaths, especially in vulnerable groups. The virus mutates yearly, which is why annual shots are needed - this isn't a conspiracy, it's virology.

Yes, pharmaceutical companies profit, but so do seatbelt manufacturers, and we don’t question the utility of seatbelts.

 

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Strongly believe mRNA covid shots do more harm than good, for healthy people, and seriously doubt if useful at all for high risk groups, which for my age, guess I'm included, but, NO THANKS.  There is no way to prove they did anything helpful, but plenty of proof they harmed people IMHO

 

The mRNA COVID-19 vaccines underwent rigorous testing and were monitored in real-time across billions of doses worldwide. While no medical intervention is 100% risk-free, the overwhelming evidence shows that the vaccines greatly reduced severe illness, hospitalisations, and death. That’s especially true for high-risk groups, including those over 50.

 

There is a way to prove they were helpful: countless peer-reviewed studies and real-world statistics demonstrate a sharp decline in hospitalisation and mortality rates post-vaccination, particularly during the height of the pandemic. Reports of harm are rare and usually related to manageable side effects or pre-existing conditions. These vaccines were a historic scientific achievement, not a mass hazard.

 

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Since not living in any 'outbreak' area of any infectious diseases, I really can't think of one vaccine I would take, or give to a child, if having.   Did get Hep shots over 20 yrs ago, after divorce here in Thailand.  Guess I have a little faith in that, although it never crossed my mind to have booster done while single in USA. 

 

Not living in an outbreak zone today doesn’t mean there’s no risk tomorrow. The reason outbreaks are rare is because of widespread vaccination. If people stop vaccinating their kids, herd immunity collapses - and then diseases like measles or diphtheria come roaring back. We've already seen outbreaks in communities with low vaccination rates such as the recent USA West Texas outbreak.

 

Vaccinating children isn't just about protecting them - it's about protecting those around them: babies too young to be vaccinated, the immunocompromised, and the elderly. The hepatitis vaccines you took years ago worked so well, you never even needed to think about boosters. That’s how prevention should feel - quiet, uneventful, and effective.

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I have stated my case on viruses many times.

You never had a case.... well, maybe a case of misplaced idolization.  Koch was great..... in his time and with the knowledge available in 1880.  But.... you weren't around then so somehow you latched onto his theories and now hold them so tightly you can't grasp any thing else.    Sad, sadder and saddest.

8 minutes ago, transam said:
1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

As for the idea that we are predetermined for certain things depending upon our parents; I reject that. However; I am fully aware that medication of the parents could have a profound effect on the new-born and its development. 

 

Get out there in the sun Trans. Make you feel better. Much better.

I can't stop laughing......................😆...................:cheesy:

 

Indeed - this is getting more and more preposterous...  There are known genetic markers for cancer that are passed on from the parents and present a higher risk in offspring developing certain cancers.

 

BRCA1/BRCA2: Breast, ovarian, prostate, pancreatic Mutation (up to 70% lifetime breast cancer risk)

TP53L: Li-Fraumeni syndrome (many types: breast, brain, leukaemia, sarcomas) Tumour suppressor gene

MLH1, MSH2, MSH6, PMS2, EPCAM: Colorectal, endometrial, gastric (Lynch syndrome). DNA mismatch repair genes

APC: Familial adenomatous polyposis > colorectal cancer. Causes hundreds of polyps early in life

CDH1: Gastric (diffuse type), lobular breast cancer. Rare but high penetrance

RET: Medullary thyroid cancer (MEN2 syndrome). Proto-oncogene

PTEN: Breast, thyroid, endometrial (Cowden syndrome). Tumour suppressor, involved in many pathways

VHL: Kidney cancer, pheochromocytoma (Von Hippel–Lindau). Rare but very penetrant

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1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Indeed - this is getting more and more preposterous...  There are known genetic markers for cancer that are passed on from the parents and present a higher risk in offspring developing certain cancers.

 

BRCA1/BRCA2: Breast, ovarian, prostate, pancreatic Mutation (up to 70% lifetime breast cancer risk)

TP53L: Li-Fraumeni syndrome (many types: breast, brain, leukaemia, sarcomas) Tumour suppressor gene

MLH1, MSH2, MSH6, PMS2, EPCAM: Colorectal, endometrial, gastric (Lynch syndrome). DNA mismatch repair genes

APC: Familial adenomatous polyposis > colorectal cancer. Causes hundreds of polyps early in life

CDH1: Gastric (diffuse type), lobular breast cancer. Rare but high penetrance

RET: Medullary thyroid cancer (MEN2 syndrome). Proto-oncogene

PTEN: Breast, thyroid, endometrial (Cowden syndrome). Tumour suppressor, involved in many pathways

VHL: Kidney cancer, pheochromocytoma (Von Hippel–Lindau). Rare but very penetrant

I think the bloke is on a wind up, nobody can be that stupid......😂

He even thinks we are all his buddy...........:huh:

11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Vaccines are not just for individual benefit - they're critical for public health. Saying you "probably didn’t need" the polio vaccine ignores the fact that polio was once a devastating global disease. Vaccines helped eradicate it in most of the world. You didn’t get polio because you were vaccinated and because others were too.

Had you not been vaccinated against polio, its likely you would not have caught it because everyone else was - herd immunity.

 

MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) is highly effective. If someone contracts one of these illnesses despite being vaccinated, it’s often due to incomplete dosing, waning immunity over time, or being exposed before full immunity developed - not because the vaccine “didn’t work.” Measles alone is incredibly contagious and can be fatal or cause lifelong damage. The idea that the hepatitis B vaccine for newborns is “silly” overlooks the fact that babies can be infected from carriers - including their mothers - without any warning. It’s about prevention before exposure, not after.

 

 

Tetanus doesn’t spread from person to person - it’s a bacterial infection from the environment, often through small wounds. Just because you’ve been lucky so far doesn’t mean you’re immune. When tetanus strikes, it’s brutal and often fatal. The booster every 10 years is recommended because the vaccine’s protection wanes - and tetanus is one disease you can’t rely on herd immunity to avoid.

 

As for the flu vaccine, calling it a "joke" ignores real-world data: while flu shots don’t always prevent infection, they do significantly reduce severity, hospitalisations, and deaths, especially in vulnerable groups. The virus mutates yearly, which is why annual shots are needed - this isn't a conspiracy, it's virology.

Yes, pharmaceutical companies profit, but so do seatbelt manufacturers, and we don’t question the utility of seatbelts.

 

 

The mRNA COVID-19 vaccines underwent rigorous testing and were monitored in real-time across billions of doses worldwide. While no medical intervention is 100% risk-free, the overwhelming evidence shows that the vaccines greatly reduced severe illness, hospitalisations, and death. That’s especially true for high-risk groups, including those over 50.

 

There is a way to prove they were helpful: countless peer-reviewed studies and real-world statistics demonstrate a sharp decline in hospitalisation and mortality rates post-vaccination, particularly during the height of the pandemic. Reports of harm are rare and usually related to manageable side effects or pre-existing conditions. These vaccines were a historic scientific achievement, not a mass hazard.

 

 

Not living in an outbreak zone today doesn’t mean there’s no risk tomorrow. The reason outbreaks are rare is because of widespread vaccination. If people stop vaccinating their kids, herd immunity collapses - and then diseases like measles or diphtheria come roaring back. We've already seen outbreaks in communities with low vaccination rates such as the recent USA West Texas outbreak.

 

Vaccinating children isn't just about protecting them - it's about protecting those around them: babies too young to be vaccinated, the immunocompromised, and the elderly. The hepatitis vaccines you took years ago worked so well, you never even needed to think about boosters. That’s how prevention should feel - quiet, uneventful, and effective.

That's one opinion, and I just happen to disagree with.  Hep vaccine doesn't last in the body very long.  Had it here, and it was gone in couple years.

 

Their effectiveness is guesswork at best, false if anything like the info we received of late during the scamdemic.  TBH, I don't trust any aspect of the health industry any more, as it is nothing but an industry.

 

Read articles the polio vaccine was useless, to more harmful than polio itself.  Vaccines don't keep you from spreading anything.  Chances are everyone is exposed to whatever, whether you have symptoms our not is probably up to you immune system.

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

That's one opinion, and I just happen to disagree with.  Hep vaccine doesn't last in the body very long.  Had it here, and it was gone in couple years.

 

Their effectiveness is guesswork at best, false if anything like the info we received of late during the scamdemic.  TBH, I don't trust any aspect of the health industry any more, as it is nothing but an industry.

 

Read articles the polio vaccine was useless, to more harmful than polio itself.  Vaccines don't keep you from spreading anything.  Chances are everyone is exposed to whatever, whether you have symptoms our not is probably up to you immune system.

I can't believe you wrote that.......😬......😂

24 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

living in an outbreak zone today doesn’t mean there’s no risk tomorrow. The reason outbreaks are rare is because of widespread vaccination. If people stop vaccinating their kids, herd immunity collapses - and then diseases like measles or diphtheria come roaring back. We've already seen outbreaks in communities with low vaccination rates such as the recent USA West Texas outbreak.

The reasons outbreaks are rare is because we're not all starving and our water supply is no longer contaminated with other people's poop. Nothing more!

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3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

The reasons outbreaks are rare is because we're not all starving and our water supply is no longer contaminated with other people's poop. Nothing more!

 

Thats certainly a facet... Over the last century, public health has come a long way, largely thanks to better sanitation, improved hygiene, access to clean drinking water, proper waste disposal, and safer living conditions in general.

 

These changes have massively reduced the spread of diseases like cholera, typhoid, and dysentery, which once wiped out entire communities. People are living longer, healthier lives as a result.

 

But while these improvements have helped tackle illnesses linked to filth and poor infrastructure, they don’t stop viruses like measles, polio, or influenza, which spread through the air or close human contact.

 

That’s where vaccines come in - they offer targeted protection that soap and clean water simply can’t provide. Without them, even the cleanest society would still be vulnerable to outbreaks. Vaccination doesn’t just protect individuals either - it shields whole communities, especially the most vulnerable, by reducing how far and fast diseases can spread.

 

 

13 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

The reasons outbreaks are rare is because we're not all starving and our water supply is no longer contaminated with other people's poop. Nothing more!

You can only come up with simpleton answers to complicated questions.

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

From the guy that thought taking steroids to bulk up was a good idea.

I have never said anything like that, so now you resort to lying, though I am not surprised, daft is daft.........:clap2:

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16 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

That's one opinion, and I just happen to disagree with.  Hep vaccine doesn't last in the body very long.  Had it here, and it was gone in couple years.

 

The duration of protection from hepatitis vaccines depends on the type:

Hepatitis A vaccine: Typically provides protection for at least 20 years, and possibly for life after completing the full course (usually two doses given 6–12 months apart).

Hepatitis B vaccine: Offers long-term protection - at least 30 years, and likely lifelong for most people after completing the full three-dose series. Routine boosters are not usually needed unless you're immunocompromised or in a high-risk group.

 

16 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Their effectiveness is guesswork at best, false if anything like the info we received of late during the scamdemic.  TBH,

 

The effectiveness of hepatitis vaccines (both Hep A and Hep B) is based on decades of solid data, not guesswork.

 

These vaccines have been in use since the 1980s and 1990s, with millions of doses administered globally and thoroughly tracked. Numerous peer-reviewed studies have consistently shown high efficacy: around 95% for hepatitis B after completing the full series, and over 95% for hepatitis A as well.

 

Unlike the rapidly evolving situation with COVID-19, hepatitis viruses are far more stable, which means the vaccines don’t need constant updating. Also, unlike the politicised noise surrounding COVID, hepatitis vaccine data has stood the test of time, with sharp drops in liver disease and infection rates in vaccinated populations proving their value. Comparing them to the confusion of the pandemic is not only inaccurate, it's a complete misunderstanding of how vaccines and viral diseases work.

 

And... anyone using words such as: Plandemic, Scamdemic, Covidiot, Maskhole, Sheeple, Branch Covidians, Coronabros, Pfizer fanboys, Vaxholes, Covistapo, Faucism, Faucist.... automatically loses any credibility.

 

 

On your 'trust issues': While it’s true the health industry operates within a business framework and sometimes prioritises profit, to dismiss it entirely ignores the vast, hard-earned progress made in medicine that has saved millions of lives worldwide; behind the industry are countless doctors, nurses, and researchers driven by genuine care and scientific rigor, constantly developing treatments, vaccines, and cures that have transformed once-deadly diseases into manageable or even eradicated conditions - so to say it’s “nothing but an industry” is a gross oversimplification that overlooks both its essential role and the real benefits it delivers every day.

 

16 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Read articles the polio vaccine was useless, to more harmful than polio itself.  Vaccines don't keep you from spreading anything.  Chances are everyone is exposed to whatever, whether you have symptoms our not is probably up to you immune system.

 

Don't be silly. The idea that the polio vaccine was useless or more harmful than polio itself is pure nonsense - polio used to paralyse thousands annually, and the vaccine wiped it out in most parts of the world.

 

As for vaccines not stopping spread, that’s like saying seatbelts don’t prevent car accidents; they don’t stop the crash but massively reduce harm and transmission. Sure, your immune system matters, but vaccines give it a serious head start instead of leaving you to fight blindfolded. Believing otherwise is a perfect recipe for staying stuck in the dark ages of medical “knowledge”.

3 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

You can only come up with simpleton answers to complicated questions.

Well spotted, and he never had his UK kids vaxed against the threats of the day.......😌

I wonder if his kids know.........😟

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The duration of protection from hepatitis vaccines depends on the type:

Hepatitis A vaccine: Typically provides protection for at least 20 years, and possibly for life after completing the full course (usually two doses given 6–12 months apart).

Hepatitis B vaccine: Offers long-term protection - at least 30 years, and likely lifelong for most people after completing the full three-dose series. Routine boosters are not usually needed unless you're immunocompromised or in a high-risk group.

 

 

The effectiveness of hepatitis vaccines (both Hep A and Hep B) is based on decades of solid data, not guesswork.

 

These vaccines have been in use since the 1980s and 1990s, with millions of doses administered globally and thoroughly tracked. Numerous peer-reviewed studies have consistently shown high efficacy: around 95% for hepatitis B after completing the full series, and over 95% for hepatitis A as well.

 

Unlike the rapidly evolving situation with COVID-19, hepatitis viruses are far more stable, which means the vaccines don’t need constant updating. Also, unlike the politicised noise surrounding COVID, hepatitis vaccine data has stood the test of time, with sharp drops in liver disease and infection rates in vaccinated populations proving their value. Comparing them to the confusion of the pandemic is not only inaccurate, it's a complete misunderstanding of how vaccines and viral diseases work.

 

And... anyone using words such as: Plandemic, Scamdemic, Covidiot, Maskhole, Sheeple, Branch Covidians, Coronabros, Pfizer fanboys, Vaxholes, Covistapo, Faucism, Faucist.... automatically loses any credibility.

 

 

On your 'trust issues': While it’s true the health industry operates within a business framework and sometimes prioritises profit, to dismiss it entirely ignores the vast, hard-earned progress made in medicine that has saved millions of lives worldwide; behind the industry are countless doctors, nurses, and researchers driven by genuine care and scientific rigor, constantly developing treatments, vaccines, and cures that have transformed once-deadly diseases into manageable or even eradicated conditions - so to say it’s “nothing but an industry” is a gross oversimplification that overlooks both its essential role and the real benefits it delivers every day.

 

 

Don't be silly. The idea that the polio vaccine was useless or more harmful than polio itself is pure nonsense - polio used to paralyse thousands annually, and the vaccine wiped it out in most parts of the world.

 

As for vaccines not stopping spread, that’s like saying seatbelts don’t prevent car accidents; they don’t stop the crash but massively reduce harm and transmission. Sure, your immune system matters, but vaccines give it a serious head start instead of leaving you to fight blindfolded. Believing otherwise is a perfect recipe for staying stuck in the dark ages of medical “knowledge”.

Before I came here many years ago, our doctor's nurse advised me to get a Hep vax as Thailand's sanitation, etc, was questionable, which, after a short time here, became evident...😬 

41 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Vaccines are not just for individual benefit - they're critical for public health. Saying you "probably didn’t need" the polio vaccine ignores the fact that polio was once a devastating global disease. Vaccines helped eradicate it in most of the world. You didn’t get polio because you were vaccinated and because others were too.

Had you not been vaccinated against polio, its likely you would not have caught it because everyone else was - herd immunity.

This is utter hogwash Richard bud.

 

Vaccines never eradicated anything. The incidence of polio was greatly lessened as is became obvious to the authorities, that it was chemical toxicity that was causing the problem.

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The duration of protection from hepatitis vaccines depends on the type:

Hepatitis A vaccine: Typically provides protection for at least 20 years, and possibly for life after completing the full course (usually two doses given 6–12 months apart).

Hepatitis B vaccine: Offers long-term protection - at least 30 years, and likely lifelong for most people after completing the full three-dose series. Routine boosters are not usually needed unless you're immunocompromised or in a high-risk group.

 

 

The effectiveness of hepatitis vaccines (both Hep A and Hep B) is based on decades of solid data, not guesswork.

 

These vaccines have been in use since the 1980s and 1990s, with millions of doses administered globally and thoroughly tracked. Numerous peer-reviewed studies have consistently shown high efficacy: around 95% for hepatitis B after completing the full series, and over 95% for hepatitis A as well.

 

Unlike the rapidly evolving situation with COVID-19, hepatitis viruses are far more stable, which means the vaccines don’t need constant updating. Also, unlike the politicised noise surrounding COVID, hepatitis vaccine data has stood the test of time, with sharp drops in liver disease and infection rates in vaccinated populations proving their value. Comparing them to the confusion of the pandemic is not only inaccurate, it's a complete misunderstanding of how vaccines and viral diseases work.

 

And... anyone using words such as: Plandemic, Scamdemic, Covidiot, Maskhole, Sheeple, Branch Covidians, Coronabros, Pfizer fanboys, Vaxholes, Covistapo, Faucism, Faucist.... automatically loses any credibility.

 

 

On your 'trust issues': While it’s true the health industry operates within a business framework and sometimes prioritises profit, to dismiss it entirely ignores the vast, hard-earned progress made in medicine that has saved millions of lives worldwide; behind the industry are countless doctors, nurses, and researchers driven by genuine care and scientific rigor, constantly developing treatments, vaccines, and cures that have transformed once-deadly diseases into manageable or even eradicated conditions - so to say it’s “nothing but an industry” is a gross oversimplification that overlooks both its essential role and the real benefits it delivers every day.

 

 

Don't be silly. The idea that the polio vaccine was useless or more harmful than polio itself is pure nonsense - polio used to paralyse thousands annually, and the vaccine wiped it out in most parts of the world.

 

As for vaccines not stopping spread, that’s like saying seatbelts don’t prevent car accidents; they don’t stop the crash but massively reduce harm and transmission. Sure, your immune system matters, but vaccines give it a serious head start instead of leaving you to fight blindfolded. Believing otherwise is a perfect recipe for staying stuck in the dark ages of medical “knowledge”.

And yet Hep B was almost out of my body in less than 3 yrs.   The hospital that administered it didn't even spot it during health check.   Different hospital the following year, found trace of it, and asked if I wanted a booster ... NO THANKS

10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

As for vaccines not stopping spread, that’s like saying seatbelts don’t prevent car accidents; they don’t stop the crash but massively reduce harm and transmission. Sure, your immune system matters, but vaccines give it a serious head start instead of leaving you to fight blindfolded. Believing otherwise is a perfect recipe for staying stuck in the dark ages of medical “knowledge”.

Oh dear. Crazy thinking indeed.

 

'',,,,vaccines give it a serious head start instead of leaving you to fight blindfolded.''

 

The best way to avoid illness, and indeed cancer, is basically two fold. Firstly; ensure that your body has the equipment to get rid of toxins as soon as they arrive. Secondly; be aware that there are toxic entities all around, and to avoid them, lessen them, or not to go near them altogether. Included under the 'toxicity umbrella' is 5G, and EMFs generally.

21 minutes ago, transam said:

Before I came here many years ago, our doctor's nurse advised me to get a Hep vax as Thailand's sanitation, etc, was questionable, which, after a short time here, became evident...😬 

Pretty sure a healthy immune system keeps many bugs at bay, including hep A.   Pretty hard to imagine living in TH, we haven't been exposed to it.   From Ms Google:

 

... "Many people exposed to Hepatitis A do not show symptoms. In fact, a significant portion of infected individuals, particularly children, experience no noticeable symptoms. Symptoms, if they appear, typically emerge 2-6 weeks after exposure, with an average of 28 days. 

 

A large percentage of children, especially those under 6, often have no symptoms at all. 

 

Adults are more likely to experience symptoms than children, but even in adults, a substantial number may be asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms" ...

 

If all these minor bugs where a health issue, then vaccinations would be mandatory for travel between USA & TH, and NONE are required.

 

Let that one sink in :coffee1:

15 minutes ago, transam said:

Before I came here many years ago, our doctor's nurse advised me to get a Hep vax as Thailand's sanitation, etc, was questionable, which, after a short time here, became evident...😬 

So what's that got to do with a 'Hep' vaccine, Trans bud?

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Oh dear. Crazy thinking indeed.

 

'',,,,vaccines give it a serious head start instead of leaving you to fight blindfolded.''

 

The best way to avoid illness, and indeed cancer, is basically two fold. Firstly; ensure that your body has the equipment to get rid of toxins as soon as they arrive. Secondly; be aware that there are toxic entities all around, and to avoid them, lessen them, or not to go near them altogether. Included under the 'toxicity umbrella' is 5G, and EMFs generally.

Yep, stay in the middle of a field munching grass, or stay indoors hiding behind a curtain with the windows closed.............🙄

4 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Pretty sure a healthy immune system keeps many bugs at bay, including hep A.   Pretty hard to imagine living in TH, we haven't been exposed to it.   From Ms Google:

 

... "Many people exposed to Hepatitis A do not show symptoms. In fact, a significant portion of infected individuals, particularly children, experience no noticeable symptoms. Symptoms, if they appear, typically emerge 2-6 weeks after exposure, with an average of 28 days. 

 

A large percentage of children, especially those under 6, often have no symptoms at all. 

 

Adults are more likely to experience symptoms than children, but even in adults, a substantial number may be asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms" ...

Of course, they do, that's why hospitals are so empty...........😂

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

Measles alone is incredibly contagious and can be fatal or cause lifelong damage.

Not so Richard.

 

Measles is a general term given to a raft of differing symptoms. These symptoms are indistinguishable from  the symptoms of other 'illnesses'. They are all caused by toxicity and are not contagious.

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