Early assessment suggests US strikes didn’t destroy Iran’s nuclear sites

[stevenl]

5 hours ago, candide said:

Actually, overstating the damage is in the interest of Iran, as it means downplaying the remaining risk.

Yes, Iran, Israel and USA have the same interest here.

[candide]

3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Yes, Iran, Israel and USA have the same interest here.

I would rather say that their leaders have the same interest.

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

One has to consider Trump's statements about the strikes on Iran in the light of Roy Cohn's advice to a young Donald Trump:

 

Attack, attack, attack.

Deny, deny, deny.

Regardless of the outcome, declare victory.

 

The third line is operative in this instance.

[theblether]

Okay - so lets get to the bottom of this - the Claim - Iran moved the centrifuges 

 

1. Without Mossad seeing it happen. 

2. Without multiple satellites seeing it happen. 

3. Without spies within the Iranian nuclear programme seeing it happen

4. A minimum of eight IR-6 and as many as 3000 cascades disassembled, moved to the surface, trucked and driven away within a couple of days. Each one of these IRT-6 being over 2 metres in length, hypersensitive to movement - and RADIOACTIVE. 

5. The IAEA has stated that there is no sign of radioactive leakage or material on the surface of Fordow. 

 

Versus 

 

Random guy on Asean Now saying the Iranians swiftly moved the IR-6.

 

Just give it a rest with this drivel. 

 

[Bkk Brian]

5 hours ago, candide said:

Don't confuse paying attention to facts with supporting Iran.

 

Actually, overstating the damage is in the interest of Iran, as it means downplaying the remaining risk.

 

Iran's communication is now that sites have been "badly damaged".

https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-says-nuclear-sites-badly-damaged-amid-conflicting-reports-on-strikes-success/

In direct opposition to his own foreign minister, Iran's supreme leader has just made a statement saying that the damage was “nothing significant” so how does that fit in with your little theory?

[Bkk Brian]

45 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Yes, Iran, Israel and USA have the same interest here.

Extreme false equivalence but expected from you

[bubblegum]

On 6/25/2025 at 3:21 PM, coolcarer said:

Excellent analysis but wasted on a hate Trump topic

but then again he was so sure and all of us non believers where so stupid, anti trump no matter what and the usual following rants. now he has to admit  the truth might be a bit different then the almighty trump said. 

[BLMFem]

Watching the "press conference" from the Pentagon right now. Again it's for an audience of one, and Pete's fawning and sycophancy is next level. The Sane Stream Media got indications that the attacks might not have been as astoundingly successful as Trump said they were and reported this accordingly. The MAGA meltdown has been astounding and Pete is up on the podium again spinning this as an act of evil.

You're a tiny little person Pete, just like your boss.

 

[candide]

17 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

In direct opposition to his own foreign minister, Iran's supreme leader has just made a statement saying that the damage was “nothing significant” so how does that fit in with your little theory?

I don't know, but my "theory" is obvious.

 

"overstating the damage is in the interest of Iran, as it means downplaying the remaining risk."

 

If it is claimed that the damage is higher than what it really is, Iran may be spared further strikes and may quietly develop nuclear weapon.

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Watching the "press conference" from the Pentagon right now. Again it's for an audience of one, and Pete's fawning and sycophancy is next level. The Sane Stream Media got indications that the attacks might not have been as astoundingly successful as Trump said they were and reported this accordingly. The MAGA meltdown has been astounding and Pete is up on the podium again spinning this as an act of evil.

You're a tiny little person Pete, just like your boss.

 

I think its excellent, great analysis and videos being shown from Air Force Gen. Dan Caine giving the latest damage assessment.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, candide said:

I don't know, but my "theory" is obvious.

 

"overstating the damage is in the interest of Iran, as it means downplaying the remaining risk."

 

If it is claimed that the damage is higher than what it really is, Iran may be spared further strikes and may quietly develop nuclear weapon.

 

 

 

Your theory is not what happened though, as much as you'd like it to. The Supreme Leader has just blown it

[BLMFem]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Your theory is not what happened though, as much as you'd like it to. The Supreme Leader has just blown it

Sorry, just listened to Pete's cringy groveling (mind-blowing that this is considered the norm these days) so gotta ask which "Supreme Leader" you're referring to?

[stevenl]

12 minutes ago, candide said:

I don't know, but my "theory" is obvious.

 

"overstating the damage is in the interest of Iran, as it means downplaying the remaining risk."

 

If it is claimed that the damage is higher than what it really is, Iran may be spared further strikes and may quietly develop nuclear weapon.

 

 

 

I agree with this.

 

What the supreme leader is doing is the same as the US president is doing: claiming victory for the home audience.

[theblether]

Two weeks ago - "Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program, Donald is delusional."

 

This week - "The attacks have only set back Iran's nuclear weapons program a few months, Donald is a failure." 

 

Or:

 

"Na, na, na, na, na - Iran moved their nuke capability before Donald's bombs hit." 

 

Source - utter demented clowns on the Internet. 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Sorry, just listened to Pete's cringy groveling (mind-blowing that this is considered the norm these days) so gotta ask which "Supreme Leader" you're referring to?

I didn't, I was listening to the important updated damage assessment. Its not finished yet either, the damage was enormous.

 

What on earth are you talking about which supreme leader?

[candide]

5 minutes ago, theblether said:

Two weeks ago - "Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program, Donald is delusional."

Proof? 

 

It seems you are making stuff up again!

[Bkk Brian]

9 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I agree with this.

 

What the supreme leader is doing is the same as the US president is doing: claiming victory for the home audience.

You've lost the plot of his theory. lol

[BLMFem]

3 minutes ago, theblether said:

Two weeks ago - "Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program, Donald is delusional."

 

This week - "The attacks have only set back Iran's nuclear weapons program a few months, Donald is a failure." 

 

Or:

 

"Na, na, na, na, na - Iran moved their nuke capability before Donald's bombs hit." 

 

Source - utter demented clowns on the Internet. 

 

 

"Two weeks ago - "Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program, Donald is delusional.""

What really happened: The Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard testified before congress that Iran was years away from producing a nuclear weapon.

 

"This week - "The attacks have only set back Iran's nuclear weapons program a few months, Donald is a failure." "

What really happened: The Sane Stream Media published early US intelligence assessments indicating that the attacks might not have been as astoundingly successful as Trump boasted.

 

""Na, na, na, na, na - Iran moved their nuke capability before Donald's bombs hit." Source - utter demented clowns on the Internet. "

What really happened: https://aseannow.com/topic/1364757-“pickaxe-mountain”-iran’s-secret-nuclear-stronghold-that-defies-us-bombs/

 

But hey, don't let facts get in the way of some much needed pearl clutching.

 

 

[BLMFem]

22 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What on earth are you talking about which supreme leader?

Exactly!

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, BLMFem said:

Exactly!

oh. its that bad is it.

 

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

"Two weeks ago - "Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program, Donald is delusional.""

What really happened: The Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard testified before congress that Iran was years away from producing a nuclear weapon.

 

"This week - "The attacks have only set back Iran's nuclear weapons program a few months, Donald is a failure." "

What really happened: The Sane Stream Media published early US intelligence assessments indicating that the attacks might not have been as astoundingly successful as Trump boasted.

 

""Na, na, na, na, na - Iran moved their nuke capability before Donald's bombs hit." Source - utter demented clowns on the Internet. "

What really happened: https://aseannow.com/topic/1364757-“pickaxe-mountain”-iran’s-secret-nuclear-stronghold-that-defies-us-bombs/

 

But hey, don't let facts get in the way of some much needed pearl clutching.

 

 

What really happened: https://aseannow.com/topic/1364757-“pickaxe-mountain”-iran’s-secret-nuclear-stronghold-that-defies-us-bombs/

But hey, don't let facts get in the way of some much needed pearl clutching.

 

What facts are in that article to back up your claims of what really happened?

[theblether]

23 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

"Two weeks ago - "Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program, Donald is delusional.""

What really happened: The Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard testified before congress that Iran was years away from producing a nuclear weapon.

 

"This week - "The attacks have only set back Iran's nuclear weapons program a few months, Donald is a failure." "

What really happened: The Sane Stream Media published early US intelligence assessments indicating that the attacks might not have been as astoundingly successful as Trump boasted.

 

""Na, na, na, na, na - Iran moved their nuke capability before Donald's bombs hit." Source - utter demented clowns on the Internet. "

What really happened: https://aseannow.com/topic/1364757-“pickaxe-mountain”-iran’s-secret-nuclear-stronghold-that-defies-us-bombs/

 

But hey, don't let facts get in the way of some much needed pearl clutching.

 

 

 

Hilarious - the Russians have already confirmed that the Iranians have a nuclear weapons program. 

 

Then they crapped it when Trump called them out. 

 

And who was this wandering minstrel who said such a thing? None other than the former President Medvedev. 

 

So give it a rest with your selective reading of the news, the point has been well proved already. 

 

Yes, Iran has admitted to enriching uranium to 60%, which is significantly higher than the 3.67% limit set by the 2015 nuclear deal (JCPOA) and far above what is needed for civilian purposes. Weapons-grade uranium is enriched to 90%. The IAEA has also reported that Iran has accumulated enough 60% enriched uranium to potentially produce nine nuclear bombs. 

 

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

 

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/06/24/trump-blasts-medvedev-over-iran-nuclear-comments-a89545 

[theblether]

Iran admits they've enriched to 60% and some random Chang slugger takes to the Internet declaring insider knowledge. 

 

What a pathetic life. 

[Yagoda]

People that beleive CNN that Iran didnt get its ass kicked are delusional.

 

https://spectator.org/cnns-credibility-totally-obliterated/

[darbie-foos]

 

[BLMFem]

23 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What really happened: https://aseannow.com/topic/1364757-“pickaxe-mountain”-iran’s-secret-nuclear-stronghold-that-defies-us-bombs/

But hey, don't let facts get in the way of some much needed pearl clutching.

 

What facts are in that article to back up your claims of what really happened?

 

The very eloquently written claim was;

""Na, na, na, na, na - Iran moved their nuke capability before Donald's bombs hit." Source - utter demented clowns on the Internet. ""

I posted a link to (one of) the media sources that reported on this possibility. 

[darbie-foos]

 

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

 

The very eloquently written claim was;

""Na, na, na, na, na - Iran moved their nuke capability before Donald's bombs hit." Source - utter demented clowns on the Internet. ""

I posted a link to (one of) the media sources that reported on this possibility. 

No, you posted a very specific and false claim, own it, why try to deny it?

 

43 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

What really happened: https://aseannow.com/topic/1364757-“pickaxe-mountain”-iran’s-secret-nuclear-stronghold-that-defies-us-bombs/

 

But hey, don't let facts get in the way of some much needed pearl clutching.

 

 

 

[BLMFem]

9 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Hilarious - the Russians have already confirmed that the Iranians have a nuclear weapons program. 

 

Then they crapped it when Trump called them out. 

 

And who was this wandering minstrel who said such a thing? None other than the former President Medvedev. 

 

So give it a rest with your selective reading of the news, the point has been well proved already. 

 

Yes, Iran has admitted to enriching uranium to 60%, which is significantly higher than the 3.67% limit set by the 2015 nuclear deal (JCPOA) and far above what is needed for civilian purposes. Weapons-grade uranium is enriched to 90%. The IAEA has also reported that Iran has accumulated enough 60% enriched uranium to potentially produce nine nuclear bombs. 

 

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

 

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/06/24/trump-blasts-medvedev-over-iran-nuclear-comments-a89545 

Are you actually quoting Medvedev and The Moscow Times as "proof"??

[darbie-foos]