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Fed-Up Nottingham Dad Moves Family to Thailand for New Life

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14 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Can usually get a G.P. appointment within a few days (not a month) and there are not 5000 stabbings in London a month

And 90%+ of the stabbings are ‘black on black’ unless you believe that acclaimed documentary TV series ‘Adolescence’.

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  • sweet dream until he realises thailand is not as cheap as it once was. the golden years are over and unless he finds a way to get income he will likely be going back to th uk quicker than he thinks. w

  • Don't knock him, if you lived in Mansfield you would have taken Beirut or Dhaka as better options too.

  • i'm not up to date with the visa rules and regulations. how is it legally possible to simply move to thailand with a young family and decide to live here ?

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Maybe should have come to Thailand on a holiday first 

See how things are plus are where to stay ect

He has put all his eggs in one basket especially selling up in the UK

while I wish them well

Can only see it ending up in tears 😢 

 

 

15 hours ago, Magictoad said:

Mansfield is dread. I would not live there if you paid me. She and he can get TEFL jobs. Teaching adults English as a foreign language.  Though one or two I'll informed people on this forum criticise the profession that is always ignorant people who don't know what they are talking about. The beauty of teaching English as a Foreign Language is that you can progress up to PhD Level but start with a certificate from International House or the British Council. It is also a good way to meet people. I WISH THEM LUCK.

 

There are a few challenges, and from reading everything here, it seems there is a lot more to the story.  I am sure @CharlieH can expoubnd on the visa situation BUT

 

a. If he is going to use Thai schools, then he will have to use the high-class ones because his kids will not be able to handle Thai schools.

b. Visas are going to be a headache

c. Teaching is only a financial stopgap and causes issues because he does not have the qualifications to get a work permit. Thus limiting where he is going to get work

 

When he gets older, he will face significant financial challenges because leaving early means receiving a smaller Old Age Pension.

 

As for his house in the UK, it's a coin flip because you're not guaranteed to get good rental tenants. Personally, if he has family in the town, then I would have them look after the house and rent it out on a one-year rental agreement.  That way if it all goes to hell here he can go back and have at least a place to stay.

 

Question for my smarter members who teach in international schools  

 

What are the requirements for admission for an international  student besides being reasonably well off

 

 

 

 

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Dale, I've just skimmed through a video about Mansfield. I can see why you would want to leave the place.

I expect people will point out that your dream of living in Thailand is difficult and you'll fail. Ignore them! If you have a dream, go for it despite the difficulties. I came to Thailand with a suitcase in 1984 and have been here ever since.

 

I assume you've thought about how you'll earn an income. To get yourself going financially, you might like to consider ensuring income by using your cash to buy and sell 5 Baht or 10 Baht gold bars. Many Thais do this. I don't know about westerners doing this, though. You probably don't have a pension. You won't need one if you learn about gold. Bank interest is around 1.5%. Gold increases its annual value by around 28%. It's up to you.

 

I suppose you have gravitated towards living in Bangkok, Pattaya, Chiang Mai, or some city or other. If you have loads of money to burn on rent, fine. If you want to save money, choose a rural town and rent a condominium or house for much less. My family of 4's first accommodation was renting a room in Phuket.

 

Choose your friends carefully. In my experience, expats can be quite negative and might pull you down. There are always ways to achieve your dream.

 

I wish you success and a happy life here!

17 hours ago, Enoon said:


I think their plans will end up like The Offspring's song, The Kids Aren't Alright (Shattered Dreams)

"Chances thrown, nothing's free
Longing for, what used to be
Still it's hard, hard to see
Fragile lives, shattered dreams"

 



I think their idea has merit, but Thailand is the wrong country.  This will end in "Shattered Dreams."

Don't sell your home, get a good agent to rent it out and use the income to help here. I would invest in in a TEFL course if possible but perhaps lack of a degree will be an obstacle.  Ideally teach and enroll the kids in the same school.

Thailand isn't cheap these days so you will need some extra cash from somewhere. Everyone tries you tube but only a few have made it work for them.

I wish them well and hope they have done their research, but I see problems ahead.

I didn't sell my house and the rental over the years has been essential.  In 18 years the rent has gone from 600 to 1000 pounds a month.  And the value of the house has gone from 175k to 300k. You can't get back into the market if you have to if you sell up.

4 minutes ago, renaissanc said:

I expect people will point out that your dream of living in Thailand is difficult and you'll fail. Ignore them! If you have a dream, go for it despite the difficulties. I came to Thailand with a suitcase in 1984 and have been here ever since.

With a wife and two children.  What do you do and how much investment cash did you have and what visa did you obtain. Or are you a 40 year overstay?

13 minutes ago, renaissanc said:

Dale, I've just skimmed through a video about Mansfield. I can see why you would want to leave the place.

I expect people will point out that your dream of living in Thailand is difficult and you'll fail. Ignore them! If you have a dream, go for it despite the difficulties. I came to Thailand with a suitcase in 1984 and have been here ever since.

 

I assume you've thought about how you'll earn an income. To get yourself going financially, you might like to consider ensuring income by using your cash to buy and sell 5 Baht or 10 Baht gold bars. Many Thais do this. I don't know about westerners doing this, though. You probably don't have a pension. You won't need one if you learn about gold. 

 

I suppose you have gravitated towards living in Bangkok, Pattaya, Chiang Mai, or some city or other. If you have loads of money to burn on rent, fine. If you want to save money, choose a rural town and rent a condominium or house for much less. My family of 4's first accommodation was renting a room in Phuket.

 

Choose your friends carefully. In my experience, expats can be quite negative and might pull you down. There are always ways to achieve your dream.

 

I wish you success and a happy life here!

I would also like to add that I think visiting the Brit club might not be a bad idea. They may be able to get assistance and advice there. 

39 minutes ago, ignore it said:

UPDATE:

 

After meeting Nok while he and his wife were looking for a furnished rental, Dave and Nok began to spend more time together. What started as casual help with translation and local arrangements soon turned into long walks, shared laughter, and late-night chats over street food.

Sources close to the couple say Nok helped the family navigate everything from finding a school for the children to setting up utilities — but it was Dave she seemed most focused on helping. Within weeks, tensions between Dave and his wife Kim grew apparent, with neighbors in Hua Hin noticing that she was spending more time alone with the kids, while Dave was often seen riding around town with Nok.

Soon Kim and Dave had moved into a separate apartment. In a now-deleted TikTok post Dave wrote that he and Kim had "decided to part ways" and that he was “grateful to have found love and purpose in an unexpected place.”

As for Kim and the kids, they're reportedly planning to return to the UK “once the savings run out.

 

You been here to long . :giggle:

18 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

 

Question for my smarter members who teach in international schools ...

What are the requirements for admission for an international  student besides being reasonably well off

I think their decision to homeschool their children is a good idea. The international schools in Thailand are SO expensive.  The various refundable and non-refundable deposits are a financial killer. The Sarasas bilingual schools certainly used to be affordable.

18 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

sweet dream until he realises thailand is not as cheap as it once was. the golden years are over and unless he finds a way to get income he will likely be going back to th uk quicker than he thinks. wish him all the best though

40 yrs to late but yeah I understand why….why is this news people are doing it everyday..

So what are they actually planning on doing for an income and I'm guessing he hasn't really got a clue about visas , as what are they going to get to stay permanently unless they buy a business or get proper jobs .

18 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

over 50 ?

He may look 50 but he’s in his 30’s

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Nope, you can do voluntary NI top-ups at about 178 quid/year.  I left the UK 23 years ago, paid my top-ups for most missing years, and as from last month, receive a 29-year UK state pension of about $1,100/month.  Enough for a single person to live on in south-east Asia 🙂

16 hours ago, Magictoad said:

Mansfield is dread. I would not live there if you paid me. She and he can get TEFL jobs. Teaching adults English as a foreign language.  Though one or two I'll informed people on this forum criticise the profession that is always ignorant people who don't know what they are talking about. The beauty of teaching English as a Foreign Language is that you can progress up to PhD Level but start with a certificate from International House or the British Council. It is also a good way to meet people. I WISH THEM LUCK.

Good luck with Thai students understanding their Nottingham accent, can barely understand it myself🥴

 

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

- Must have a specific room and must be away from outside noise with no interference from other family members.

Yep, with some of my young Chinese online students, the noise from the other family members is deafening.  I have to say "Hi, can you please tell your mum to shut the feck up, 'cos I can't hear a word that you are saying!"

16 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Is that a compulsory thing or ?

 

If you have 2 kids and are living here on a thin budget, you are damn right it is compulsory.

 

 

1 minute ago, kingstonkid said:

 

If you have 2 kids and are living here on a thin budget, you are damn right it is compulsory.

 

 

 

According to which government body ... UK or Thai?

6 minutes ago, simon43 said:

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Nope, you can do voluntary NI top-ups at about 178 quid/year.  I left the UK 23 years ago, paid my top-ups for most missing years, and as from last month, receive a 29-year UK state pension of about $1,100/month.  Enough for a single person to live on in south-east Asia 🙂

 

how many people in your family here, and what are their ages

 

 

Again, though, we are talking about a guy coming here with no job or job prospects and 2 kids.

 

There are a lot of things that yu can do if you have the money.  The question is wilhe have the money and wil it be enough to get him through life here

 

So far he has

 

rent

food and incident

school fees

insurance

OA top up

 

Not sure of the amounts, but guaranteed that he is going to have an issue.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

According to which government body ... UK or Thai?

 

Being a good parent  legally, it is not  but what happens if you so break his arm or gets sick, where does the money come from for hospital

 

It is easy for us tht have no family to do the self-finance, not as easy for a fmaily of 4.

45 minutes ago, renaissanc said:

I think their decision to homeschool their children is a good idea. The international schools in Thailand are SO expensive.  The various refundable and non-refundable deposits are a financial killer. The Sarasas bilingual schools certainly used to be affordable.

 

Yeah the oly challenge is are the parents are qualified skills-wise, to teach their kids at a level that will aid them getting into good  Matayom schools

In terms of earning an income, they do not seem to have any skill that would allow them to earn an income. He's an HGV driver, but that and a whole list of manual-type jobs (which I guess they are both capable of doing), are out of bounds for non-Thais, or the rate of pay is dismal. 

 

Teaching English even at a basic, low-pay level requires a degree (any degree) to be legal, and that's also the case now in Cambodia and Myanmar.

 

Some sort of online income might be the solution, but not a vlogger, please!!

19 hours ago, quake said:

Not fair on the kids man. 

Your not loaded or have high paying jobs here.

So it's all going to go south at some point. 

 

 

At least they won't be lectured in school about Allah, LBGT etc, and less dangerous on the street for his children.

16 hours ago, baansgr said:

Yeah but Thais are treated like Thais in Thailand, Brits are treated like crap in UK, imprisoned, raped and murdered with nowhere else to turn except somewhere abroad

Imprisoned,raped and murdered,where do you live !

2 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

 

 where does the money come from for hospital

 

 

 

Typical Brittle go to is GofundMe !

Just now, Scottie12 said:

Imprisoned,raped and murdered,where do you live !

It's happening in most English cities mainly the Muslim run council's 

Not heard of Pakis grooming gangs, or are you in a bubble 

Good luck to them and wish them all the best, I do think however it will all go horribly wrong and back in u.k potless within a year

4 hours ago, Quentin Zen said:

Schools are 100x worse in Thailand.   Pollution, has to be at least 10x worse.   Language barrier might be hard on the kids.   House, yea, burn the only real asset they have?  I'm sure the retirement fund will be gone as well.   90% of jobs are not available.   What visa is he going to get?   This sound like some fake Disney story but will end up in a divorce, kids will go back home, future destroyed, money gone, and their 15 minutes of fame won't result in a payout.   Unless this guy has about 50 million baht, there's 0% this works out 10 years from now.  Sure, they can "live" for maybe five years doing nothing...but this is an idiotic move.  I've never seen anyone come to Thailand and make more than in America.   Salaries in America are almost 10x more.   

 

   He's from Mansfield, not America. The kids will, quite possibly be the only white faces at the local school, and making anything close to a decent living will be a huge struggle.

 The weather in that part of the UK is grim pretty well all year round and so is suburbia, around there...

16 hours ago, baansgr said:

One month wait for GP appointment, 5,000 stabbings a month in London..Thailand has free education 👍 

Bull<deleted> - Nobody waits a month for a GP appointment.

Bull<deleted> - There's less than 1500 knife crimes a month which includes people caught carrying a knife (which is a lot more common than stabbing someone).

 

Any free education in Thailand is in Thai. Pretty sure his kids wouldn't be eligible because who knows what sort of visa they'll be in the country on. I had the income (just) to pay for international school for my kids. But I'm not an HGV driver...

 

 

Looks like he has been watching too much Youtube. Ironic too, when you consider that many younger Thais would love to leave the country, due to what they see as the lack of a future.

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