A Sunday and Monday in the US?

[sqwakvfr]

I am American and a retired police officer.  Some say things are getting worse but I would say "you ain't see nothing yet":

 

1. Sunday mass stabbing in Michigan. 11 injured.  This was at a Wal Mart

2. Monday morning mass shooting at the Grand Sierra Resort in Reno NV. 3 Killed.  Shooter arrested.

3.  Monday evening mass shooting in Manahattan NY. 4 killed including an off duty NYPD officer who was working a overtime security job.  The shooter killed himself and was armed with a M4. The shooter was from Las Vegas, NV.  CNN contributtor John Miller, a former NYPD deputy commissioner, initially said "the shooter is possibly white". No John his name was Shane Tamura and does not look "white". 

4. Though not a shooting but there was a large brawl/attack in downtown that resulted in multiple arrests and the video of the attack has had a lot of clicks.  This was in Cincinnati, OH.

 

When I move back to US the first thing I am going to do is buy a Glock 17 or 19.

 

 

 

[newbee2022]

7 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

When I move back to US the first thing I am going to do is buy a Glock 17 or 19.

 

or a second hand tank, maybe. 

For what you need these weapons? To take part in shootings?

[sqwakvfr]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

or a second hand tank, maybe. 

For what you need these weapons? To take part in shootings?

Self defense. Of course a handgun is no match to an M4 loaded with a 30 round mag but I have over 30 years of firearms experience and I would rather do down fighting than the other way.  The NYPD officer was armed with his pistol but if the suspect gets the drop on you then there is no defense for that.  As a graduate of the US Army Armor Officer course in Fort Knox a tank is difficult to manuever on city streets. The better alternative is an armored SUV.  But the cost of such a vehicle is out of reach for most($100,000 just for the armor and this does not include the vehicle).  

[newbee2022]

1 minute ago, sqwakvfr said:

Self defense. Of course a handgun is no match to an M4 loaded with a 30 round mag but I have over 30 years of firearms experience and I would rather do down fighting than the other way.  The NYPD officer was armed with his pistol but if the suspect gets the drop on you then there is no defense for that.  

If nobody is allowed to have guns it would give me a better feeling of safety. A scumbag on dope with a gun at hand is a nightmare for me. 

[sqwakvfr]

Just now, newbee2022 said:

If nobody is allowed to have guns it would give me a better feeling of safety. A scumbag on dope with a gun at hand is a nightmare for me. 

2nd Ammendment of the US constitution would have to be repealed first.  This would be very difficult to accomplish. 

[Smokin Joe]

Just now, newbee2022 said:

If nobody is allowed to have guns it would give me a better feeling of safety. A scumbag on dope with a gun at hand is a nightmare for me. 

 

That would just mean that the only people without guns are the law abiding ones. Scumbags on dope would still be able to get guns.

[Smokin Joe]

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

When I move back to US the first thing I am going to do is buy a Glock 17 or 19.

 

 

I'd recommend the 19 if for concealed carry.

[novacova]

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

When I move back to US the first thing I am going to do is buy a Glock 17 or 19.

G29, compact and plenty of kick.

Pack all the time while in the US.

[newbee2022]

Just now, Smokin Joe said:

 

That would just mean that the only people without guns are the law abiding ones. Scumbags on dope would still be able to get guns.

That's the big difference between advanced culture of Europe a wild new culture in America since 250 years. 

In this matter Europeans and several (God sake not all) Americans would always be different

[sqwakvfr]

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

That's the big difference between advanced culture of Europe a wild new culture in America since 250 years. 

In this matter Europeans and several (God sake not all) Americans would always be different

True. Even as an American I realize the country is not advanced.  Compared to Asian countries and European countries America at under 250 years old is like a baby that cries and has tantrums.  But the problem is the baby has the biggest Army, Air Force and Navy.  Is it better to be feard than loved?  I don't know. Of course all nations decline and often rebound.  Often nations implode from within.  

[novacova]

11 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

That's the big difference between advanced culture of Europe a wild new culture in America since 250 years. 

In this matter Europeans and several (God sake not all) Americans would always be different

Europe is digressive. The wild new culture of America has brought the advancement of civilization to the world, though anyone who’s got their head buried in delusion wouldn’t know that.
Every single one of my liberal leftist friends in the US owns a firearm. 

[Prubangboy]

When Trump trash just wanted to harass Mexicans for no earthly reason, I thought it was terrible, but not exactly really affecting me.
 

But then came Covid, and people who against all logic literally would not run away from a plague; A Mass death event that they literally could not get enough of.
 

Now they want to enable and facilitate mass shootings and mass pedophilia. 
 

My next-door neighbor in Appalachia told me and my wife that he wanted to kill us for our liberal beliefs. We never discussed any liberal beliefs with this redneck bonehead.

 

The rest of the world is right to point and laugh at us, and anyone who can leave the United States and does not is a retard at Harris fan levels.

 

 

 

 

[hotsun]

17 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

If nobody is allowed to have guns it would give me a better feeling of safety. A scumbag on dope with a gun at hand is a nightmare for me. 

The feeling of safety is an illusion. If someone wants to kill you they will, anywhere

[hotsun]

3 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

When Trump trash just wanted to harass Mexicans for no earthly reason, I thought it was terrible, but not exactly really affecting me.
 

But then came Covid, and people who against all logic literally would not run away from a plague; A Mass death event that they literally could not get enough of.
 

Now they want to enable and facilitate mass shootings and mass pedophilia. 
 

My next-door neighbor in Appalachia told me and my wife that he wanted to kill us for our liberal beliefs. We never discussed any liberal beliefs with this redneck bonehead.

 

The rest of the world is right to point and laugh at us, and anyone who can leave the United States and does not is a retard at Harris fan levels.

 

 

 

 

Better to be shot than stabbed and left to bleed out, in my view

[John Drake]

19 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

True. Even as an American I realize the country is not advanced.  Compared to Asian countries and European countries America at under 250 years old is like a baby that cries and has tantrums.  But the problem is the baby has the biggest Army, Air Force and Navy.  Is it better to be feard than loved?  I don't know. Of course all nations decline and often rebound.  Often nations implode from within.  

 

Maybe the US is in fact in decline, as looking at this Wiki list, the number of mass shootings before 1966 show that they are quite rare (Wiki actually included the Kennedy Assassination as a pre 1966 mass shooting!). Since and especially since the 1990s they have skyrocketed and are getting worse and worse and worse. Yet guns were much more easily available before 1966. What changed?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States

[impulse]

41 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

If nobody is allowed to have guns it would give me a better feeling of safety. A scumbag on dope with a gun at hand is a nightmare for me. 

 

I guess you missed the part of the Michigan WalMart stabbing story where he was stopped by an armed citizen.  No telling how many more people he would have stabbed... 

 

There goes your "feeling of safety", eh?   You're chasing an illusion.  Or a delusion...

 

 

[newbee2022]

21 minutes ago, hotsun said:

The feeling of safety is an illusion. If someone wants to kill you they will, anywhere

I think it's your delusion.

Compare the gun shootings in US with EU. That's it

[newbee2022]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

I guess you missed the part of the Michigan WalMart stabbing story where he was stopped by an armed citizen.  No telling how many more people he would have stabbed... 

 

There goes your "feeling of safety", eh?

 

 

Compare gun shootings in US with EU. That speaks for itself

[newbee2022]

28 minutes ago, novacova said:

Europe is digressive. The wild new culture of America has brought the advancement of civilization to the world, though anyone who’s got their head buried in delusion wouldn’t know that.
Every single one of my liberal leftist friends in the US owns a firearm. 

My friends don't. Is this a proof?

[cjinchiangrai]

2 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

When I move back to US the first thing I am going to do is buy a Glock 17 or 19.

I am staying right here. Too much stupid stateside.

[Captain Flack]

Posts with no link or unverified sources removed. Reddit is not a credible source.

[Will B Good]

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/2024/oct/comparing-deaths-gun-violence-us-other-countries

[Watawattana]

2 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

When I move back to US the first thing I am going to do is buy a Glock 17 or 19.

I'm a little confused why you'd want to move back to the US?  Not a political comment, just the level of violence.  Of course the US is pretty big and I know there are plenty of wonderful places far away from craziness.

[Mike_Hunt]

57 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

When Trump trash just wanted to harass Mexicans for no earthly reason, I thought it was terrible, but not exactly really affecting me.
 

But then came Covid, and people who against all logic literally would not run away from a plague; A Mass death event that they literally could not get enough of.
 

Now they want to enable and facilitate mass shootings and mass pedophilia. 
 

My next-door neighbor in Appalachia told me and my wife that he wanted to kill us for our liberal beliefs. We never discussed any liberal beliefs with this redneck bonehead.

 

The rest of the world is right to point and laugh at us, and anyone who can leave the United States and does not is a retard at Harris fan levels.

 

 

 

 

I think you are trash for making up a story that someone wants to kill you for you liberal believes. 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

Bit into the cop cam videos on youtube - car chases, events as they happen, wow. So much homelessness too. So many seem mentally ill but seems they don't get treated. Shootings so often. 

Australia has it's crime and issues but ...

[Mike_Hunt]

2 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

I am American and a retired police officer.  Some say things are getting worse but I would say "you ain't see nothing yet":

 

1. Sunday mass stabbing in Michigan. 11 injured.  This was at a Wal Mart

2. Monday morning mass shooting at the Grand Sierra Resort in Reno NV. 3 Killed.  Shooter arrested.

3.  Monday evening mass shooting in Manahattan NY. 4 killed including an off duty NYPD officer who was working a overtime security job.  The shooter killed himself and was armed with a M4. The shooter was from Las Vegas, NV.  CNN contributtor John Miller, a former NYPD deputy commissioner, initially said "the shooter is possibly white". No John his name was Shane Tamura and does not look "white". 

4. Though not a shooting but there was a large brawl/attack in downtown that resulted in multiple arrests and the video of the attack has had a lot of clicks.  This was in Cincinnati, OH.

 

When I move back to US the first thing I am going to do is buy a Glock 17 or 19.

 

 

 

I don’t think the guy carried an M4 in number.  An M4 is fully auto and CNN is joke.  

[Will B Good]

9 minutes ago, Watawattana said:

I'm a little confused why you'd want to move back to the US?  Not a political comment, just the level of violence.  Of course the US is pretty big and I know there are plenty of wonderful places far away from craziness.

 

I often wonder how distorted 'our' view is of violence in the States......we are fed a constant stream of movies glorifying violence, news items telling us about horrific happenings......but as you say.....it's a big country.

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

I don’t think the guy carried an M4 in number.  An M4 is fully auto and CNN is joke.  

 

 

Why couldn't he have had a semi-automatic version?

 

 

Semi-Automatic M4 Clones: These are widely available and resemble the military M4 in appearance and function, but fire only one round per trigger pull.

 

Fully Automatic M4A1: Heavily restricted under the National Firearms Act (NFA). Civilians can only own machine guns made before May 19, 1986, and registered under the NFA. Since the M4A1 was introduced after that date, it's effectively banned for civilian ownership

[Mike_Hunt]

Just now, Will B Good said:

 

 

Why couldn't he have had a semi-automatic version?

 

 

Semi-Automatic M4 Clones: These are widely available and resemble the military M4 in appearance and function, but fire only one round per trigger pull.

 

Fully Automatic M4A1: Heavily restricted under the National Firearms Act (NFA). Civilians can only own machine guns made before May 19, 1986, and registered under the NFA. Since the M4A1 was introduced after that date, it's effectively banned for civilian ownership

M4 is a military destination.  it was an AR15. 

[sqwakvfr]

1 hour ago, Watawattana said:

I'm a little confused why you'd want to move back to the US?  Not a political comment, just the level of violence.  Of course the US is pretty big and I know there are plenty of wonderful places far away from craziness.

Many reasons.  Some financial (an opportunity that could pay off or not) and a chance to set some permanent roots down until this life ends. For me Thailand has been good but I have never felt home here.