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Understanding blood pressure.

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On 8/3/2025 at 2:15 PM, jvs said:

I like them fried in real butter.

So are you following the Atkins diet?

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    Well the "pink" in the salt is rusty iron....and the other supposedly healthy minerals are traces too small to impact human health......so I would say get yourself a new BP kit.      

  • I have researched this and the cholesterol myth is just that. I think i will get another general check up to see what is going on but the old health myths are getting debunked  more and more

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On 8/3/2025 at 3:07 PM, Hawaiian said:

I cannot take statins because they cause severe tendonitis.  I learned about the connection of statins and Alzheimers from my Thai girlfriend's brother who is a well respected doctor and researcher in Bangkok.

Try googling "do statins increase risk of alzheimer's" to get other opinions on this issue.

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36 minutes ago, placnx said:

So are you following the Atkins diet?

No,i don't think so.

I do IMF and avoid sugar and carbs not sure what the name of this is .

 

59 minutes ago, placnx said:

So are you following the Atkins diet?

 

21 minutes ago, jvs said:

No,i don't think so.

I do IMF and avoid sugar and carbs not sure what the name of this is .

 

 

Depends how strict you are on cutting the carbs.   I was Keto-ish, as not strict Keto, which actually allows quite a bit.   Can't say I was Keto, then I'd have to admit to cheating now & then.

 

If cutting all carb, or almost, then you fall into Carnivore diet, which I could never stick to.

 

Atkins, Mediterranean & DASH are all terms of the past, I think.  Not sure what one would call my diet.

 

Fats, ~50% of caloric intake, (low saturated fats)

Protein (lean), ~20-30%

Carbs (fibrous), ~20-30%

Do satisfy my sweet tooth now & then, but Glucose was 5.3 last test.

 

No alcohol or tobacco product.  Along with IMF, from about 2000 - 1200 hrs

 

Quick Ms Google, and I'm apparently Keto 2 🙄

 

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On 8/3/2025 at 12:23 AM, jvs said:

About 5 years ago my blood pressure started to go up,not a lot bit in a steady line.

When it was around 130 i started to take 5mg Anapril .

That worked for awhile but pressure came back and i increased to 2 xAnapril 5mg.

I am now 67 years old,170 cm and 59 kilo.

About four months ago i started to do IMF and i lost about 2 kilos of what i assume was mostly bodyfat.

So i was around 61 kilos when i started that.

I quit eating anything with sugar as much as i could and ate just (still do that now) twice a day.

I eat 5 fried eggs for breakfast with some melted cheese on top,very tasty and meat for lunch most days.

When i started all this i also started to take 1 capsule of 5 different spices each day, tumeric, black pepper,ginger,garlic and Ceylon Cinnamon.

Tonight i will also start taking 1 capsule of Magnesium Citrate.

I am using Cannabis in eatable form most days to help me sleep.

The thing is my bloodpressure stayed the same! Still a little high but after resting for about 5 minutes it mostly went down enough.

Now the kicker,i started to take a pinch of Pink salt twice a day in a glass of water the last 3 weeks and my blood pressure is dropping.

I am only taking 1 Anapril 5mg now (for the past 2 weeks) and i just checked my bloodpressure now and it is 113 over 72.  65 bpm.

Over the last few weeks it has been coming down gradually.

Any thoughts?

Try Tumeric Curcumin with Bio Perrin it brought mine down extensively. Another friend’s went down from around 200 to 120/80. Also reduces inflammation. Must have Bio Perrin in the ingredients for delivery. Cheap and easy. Good luck. I take 2 capsules each morning 2600 mg. Can also use Tumeric on your food with cracked pepper as an addition.

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taking it now for several years my blood pressure seems steady at average 120/80.

Just now, S Mart said:

Try Tumeric Curcumin with Bio Perrin it brought mine down extensively. Another friend’s went down from around 200 to 120/80. Also reduces inflammation. Must have Bio Perrin in the ingredients for delivery. Cheap and easy. Good luck. I take 2 capsules each morning 2600 mg. Can also use Tumeric on your food with cracked pepper as an addition.

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taking it now for several years my blood pressure seems steady at average 120/80.

Forgot to mention check out “Forks over Knives” documentary on UTube excellent diet for many things especially defeating Heart Disease. 60 years of research with case histories. I’ve been on it since 2018 Bangkok Hospital watched a 76% artery clog be reduced to 30% in 36 months.

Worth 45 minutes of your time watching.

3 minutes ago, S Mart said:

Try Tumeric Curcumin with Bio Perrin it brought mine down extensively. Another friend’s went down from around 200 to 120/80. Also reduces inflammation. Must have Bio Perrin in the ingredients for delivery. Cheap and easy. Good luck. I take 2 capsules each morning 2600 mg. Can also use Tumeric on your food with cracked pepper as an addition.

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taking it now for several years my blood pressure seems steady at average 120/80.

 

And as a good thumb of rule: if on medication, or any illnesses check first with interactions when start taking herbs ad supplements. 

 

Curcumin, especially when combined with piperine (BioPerine), can interact with various medications by affecting how they are processed in the body (pharmacokinetics). These interactions can potentially lead to changes in drug levels, increasing the risk of side effects or reducing the effectiveness of the medication

 

Safety considerations: Safe when added to foods; as a supplement, piperine should be used with caution in people with diabetes, bleeding disorders, and gastrointestinal disorders. Piperine may interact with some medications

On 8/6/2025 at 4:03 PM, JRG23 said:

Beetroot powder and Hibiscus tea.

Take both.

 

This combo works for me along with avoiding sugar and highly processed foods.

 

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10 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

 

This combo works for me along with avoiding sugar and highly processed foods.

 

I get that,it makes sense.

You mention avoiding sugar and highly processed food ,i think that in itself does a person a lot of good.

Many people are taking some kind of supplement so they have an excuse to carry on with a bad lifestyle

of eating and drinking things that are bad for their bodies.

It takes a change in lifestyle in order to keep eating healthy.

That is in general,the USA has more problems to deal with regarding health and drugs.

The thing is the food industry needs to be reigned in and regulated.

Once we all demand better quality food  all of our lives will get better.

Here is a big opportunity for politicians to do better!

 

On 8/7/2025 at 8:33 AM, Hummin said:

 

And as a good thumb of rule: if on medication, or any illnesses check first with interactions when start taking herbs ad supplements. 

 

Curcumin, especially when combined with piperine (BioPerine), can interact with various medications by affecting how they are processed in the body (pharmacokinetics). These interactions can potentially lead to changes in drug levels, increasing the risk of side effects or reducing the effectiveness of the medication

 

Safety considerations: Safe when added to foods; as a supplement, piperine should be used with caution in people with diabetes, bleeding disorders, and gastrointestinal disorders. Piperine may interact with some medications

The friends I quoted stopped all medications and have never restarted. Blood pressure still very normal. Best to stay away from the Quacks they only know 1 thing and that’s prescription drugs. Then a side affect and another prescription drug and on and on.

26 minutes ago, S Mart said:

The friends I quoted stopped all medications and have never restarted. Blood pressure still very normal. Best to stay away from the Quacks they only know 1 thing and that’s prescription drugs. Then a side affect and another prescription drug and on and on.

Not everyone responds the same way with prescription drugs.  I have been taking lisinopril and hydrochlorothiazide for hypertension and tamsolusin to prevent urinary retention for years.  They work for me and cost pennies a day.   To each their own.

On 8/8/2025 at 8:57 AM, jvs said:

The thing is the food industry needs to be reigned in and regulated.

Once we all demand better quality food  all of our lives will get better.

Here is a big opportunity for politicians to do better!

Agree and eating healthy is a lifestyle, but once in, easy to stay the course, as you'll feel the consequence of a day or 2 of eating crap.   Really disrupts your system.

 

Politicians will never reigned in the industry, as too much money involved.  Really isn't needed, and people need to just stop buying & supporting the junk food industry.  Supply & demand, and until that changes, they have no reason to give up their profits for the poison they push.

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Really interesting thread. A few thoughts that might help:

  • About the pink salt change: Pink Himalayan salt is still mostly sodium chloride. The trace minerals are tiny and unlikely to drive BP changes. Two things that can explain your lower readings: (1) you’re more hydrated from the salted water, and (2) you’ve tightened your routine (resting before checks, taking readings more consistently). If BP is trending down, great — but generally adding salt isn’t a standard BP strategy.

  • How you measure matters (a lot):
    Sit quietly 5 minutes, feet on floor, back supported, arm at heart level, no talking, 2–3 readings 1 minute apart and average them. Try a few times a week, same time of day. If you want to rule out “white coat” effects, home monitoring or a 24-hr ambulatory monitor is very useful.

  • Eggs, butter & cholesterol:
    Dietary cholesterol from eggs has a modest effect for most people, but saturated fat (e.g., lots of butter) can raise LDL in some. If you enjoy eggs, you might balance with other fats (olive oil, avocado, nuts) and keep an eye on your lipid panel rather than guessing.

  • Intermittent fasting (IMF):
    Can help weight and insulin sensitivity even with small kilo changes. The BP impact varies; sleep, stress, sodium/potassium balance, and exercise often move the needle more.

  • Supplements & cannabis:
    Turmeric/ginger/garlic/cinnamon and magnesium are generally safe for many, but they can interact with meds (your ACE inhibitor/“Anapril”), and garlic/turmeric can affect bleeding risk at higher doses. Edible cannabis can lower BP in some and raise heart rate in others — worth flagging to your doctor.

  • When to check a bit deeper:
    If BP drops too low (consistently <90/60) or you notice dizziness/blurred vision/fainting, get a review. A sensible work-up can include electrolytes, kidney function, fasting glucose/HbA1c, lipids, thyroid and, if risk is higher, a calcium score discussion. Also consider sleep apnea if snoring/daytime sleepiness is a thing — it’s a sneaky BP driver.

  • Lifestyle nudges that reliably help BP:
    Regular aerobic + light resistance training, good sleep, moderating alcohol, aiming for ~5 g salt/day (unless your clinician advises differently), and getting enough potassium from food (leafy greens, bananas, beans) — potassium-rich foods help counter sodium’s effect.

Bottom line: your recent readings (around 113/72, 65 bpm) are solid — just keep monitoring with good technique and loop your doctor before making bigger medication or supplement changes.

If anyone wants it, we’re happy to share a simple BP-at-home checklist and a one-page “what labs to ask for”—no strings attached.

www.HealthDeliver.Asia

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Blocked arteries are the problem with all manner of crud diminishing the flow of blood ,needs a drain cleaner to clear out the crud

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18 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

Blocked arteries are the problem with all manner of crud diminishing the flow of blood ,needs a drain cleaner to clear out the crud

Yes easy but what causes a blocked artery?

3 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

Blocked arteries are the problem with all manner of crud diminishing the flow of blood ,needs a drain cleaner to clear out the crud

Not necessarily, as could simply be a twisted blood vessel due to age or an opps.  As one of my vessels did and adjusted back with a stent or two (?), almost 3 yrs ago.  That med oops I mention every now & then.

 

Blood vessel can get twisted without stenosis *** present, as was my case.  Not all caused by plaque lined vessels.

 

*** Stenosis is the abnormal narrowing of a tube-like passageway in the body, such as a blood vessel, spinal canal, or other organ, which can restrict the flow of blood, nerves, or other substances. - Dr Google

 

Cardiologist exaggerated a wee bit on the RCA description.  Neither 100% blockage nor a clot, or I wouldn't be here today.   As I was transported, non emergency, to hospital 1.5 hrs away, with a stop on the way.   As there is no cardiologist locally.   Something to consider when & where retiring.

 

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I believe the latest ideas about artery blockage is that it is caused by cholesterol.

The reason the cholesterol is there is because of inflammation  in the artery and cholesterol is patching the

inflammation.

The cause of the inflammation is multiple,from genetics to eating habits,it also has to do with an auto immune

response in which the body makes a mistake in forming plaque.

 

 

1 hour ago, jvs said:

I believe the latest ideas about artery blockage is that it is caused by cholesterol.

The reason the cholesterol is there is because of inflammation  in the artery and cholesterol is patching the

inflammation.

The cause of the inflammation is multiple,from genetics to eating habits,it also has to do with an auto immune

response in which the body makes a mistake in forming plaque.

And the cholesterol, is not always caused by eating them, via meat & fats.

 

How your body handles carbs & sugars may have an impact.  Which IMHO is more of an issue than eating meats, fats and cholesterol high foods, in moderation of course.   Why keeping your Glucose low is important.

 

Dr Google ... "Insulin resistance and inflammation in the liver do cause it to produce more cholesterol and fats. In insulin resistance, the liver becomes less responsive to insulin, leading to increased synthesis of cholesterol and other lipids. This, combined with the inflammatory processes that can arise from fatty liver disease (NAFLD), creates a vicious cycle where the liver is overstimulated to produce lipids, contributing to atherosclerosis and other metabolic complications."

 

It can be quite the balancing act :coffee1:

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