2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I'll bet when you are a lot younger you never thought you would become a supporter of genocide and the willful slaughter of women and children. One has to wonder what happened along the way. 

 

   No one actually supports genocide and the wilful slaughter of woman and children though.

   Those are just pro Palestinians  claims to try to win the war and to get Israel to surrender .

   Do you actually believe it yourself ?

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I'll bet when you are a lot younger you never thought you would become a supporter of genocide and the willful slaughter of women and children. One has to wonder what happened along the way. 

Genocide, starvation, mass killings, imprisonments and so on and so forth, Hamas is winning the propaganda war so much so that even clueless buffoons are now on their side.

On 8/7/2025 at 9:57 AM, Danny Australia said:

Israel may be able to occupy Gaza, but it will never extinguish the Palestinian people's aspiration and rightful claim to their own state. The world is increasingly aware of Israel's war crimes and its defiance of the international community.

 

Aspiration to be a terrorist and a martyr, because this is what they are, a miserable religion that lives on its swords,

what hhasiIslam achievedit's entire aexistenceother than to wedge wars, purge and pillage and plunder others?

 

On 8/6/2025 at 10:51 AM, Eric Loh said:

The point is that Netanyahu will do a version of Trump TACO. 

Sadly Netanyahu is nothing like Trump as his survival is on the line. He cannot afford to back down as either a jail in Israel is waiting for him. or if the world is very lucky, he will be handed over to the ICJ , given a fair trial, and executed for both war crimes and crimes against humanity along with ALL his criminal war cabinet and the majority of the senior officers of the IDF.

 

The "I was only obeying orders from above" is NOT a defence any more.

6 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Aspiration to be a terrorist and a martyr, because this is what they are, a miserable religion that lives on its swords,

what hhasiIslam achievedit's entire aexistenceother than to wedge wars, purge and pillage and plunder others?

 

Just what Israel is doing now in Gaza, the West Bank. Lebanon and Syria,

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No one actually supports genocide and the wilful slaughter of woman and children though.

   Those are just pro Palestinians  claims to try to win the war and to get Israel to surrender .

   Do you actually believe it yourself ?

Yes I do believe the independent Aid organizations that claim more than 20,000 women and children have been slaughtered. If you don't I would encourage you to do a deeper dive into the research that's available. 

Just now, spidermike007 said:

Yes I do believe the independent Aid organizations that claim more than 20,000 women and children have been slaughtered. If you don't I would encourage you to do a deeper dive into the research that's available. 

 

   That's not genocide though , that's just the usual civilian deaths during wars .

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That's not genocide though , that's just the usual civilian deaths during wars .

You can use any excuse you want if it makes you sleep better at night, but the lack of proportionality between the original attack and the complete leveling of Gaza and the slaughter of tens of thousands of Palestinians has gone completely out of control. 

 

It would not only appear to many of us, but many Israeli officials have publicly stated that the end goal is to finish Gaza, and finish the Palestinian people in those territories. Israel was never sincere about finding a solution to this problem. 

Just now, spidermike007 said:

You can use any excuse you want if it makes you sleep better at night, but the lack of proportionality between the original attack and the complete leveling of Gaza and the slaughter of tens of thousands of Palestinians has gone completely out of control. 

 

   Hamas need to be defeated and measures need to be taken to make sure there can be no similar terror attacks in the future

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

What makes you think you know more about the history than the other side?

 

For example, how do you interpret Ben Gurion's 1937 letter to his son?

 

 

If you want to wake up old issues, I can ask what the mufti of Jerusalem' Amin Al-Husseini was doing meeting Adolf Hitler ""Amin al-Husseini, the former Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, met with Adolf Hitler at the Reich Chancellery in Berlin on November 28, 1941. During this meeting, al-Husseini requested backing from Hitler for Arab independence and opposition to a Jewish national home in Palestine"

Do you need more?

 

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Just what Israel is doing now in Gaza, the West Bank. Lebanon and Syria,

Doing away with it's sworn enemies who are bent on the destruction of Israel.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes I do believe the independent Aid organizations that claim more than 20,000 women and children have been slaughtered. If you don't I would encourage you to do a deeper dive into the research that's available. 

Let me clue ya this, if it wasn't for the hostages held like caged animals in underground tunnels, Gaza would have been wiped out of the face of the earth, that's how you deal with a mob of murderers, kidnappers, torturers and rapists of the elderly and babies.

 

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

You can use any excuse you want if it makes you sleep better at night, but the lack of proportionality between the original attack and the complete leveling of Gaza and the slaughter of tens of thousands of Palestinians has gone completely out of control. 

 

It would not only appear to many of us, but many Israeli officials have publicly stated that the end goal is to finish Gaza, and finish the Palestinian people in those territories. Israel was never sincere about finding a solution to this problem. 

Yes , the goal is to, one way or another, finish Gaza, an eye for an eye, after all, that is what Hamas had in mind when they attacked Israel on the 7th of October, they even killed and kidnapped Thai workers who were asleep at the time.

Some have died in captivity, I mean, seriously, Thai farm workers? can anyone here justify and condone such an act?

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hostile or abusive comments based on religion/ethnicity. 

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes I do believe the independent Aid organizations that claim more than 20,000 women and children have been slaughtered. If you don't I would encourage you to do a deeper dive into the research that's available. 

slaughtered? slathering is the act of cutting one's throat and let them bleed to death, is that the kind of ''slaughtered''

you mean?

Hamas dug 10's of kilometers of well-equipped tunnels, amassed tons of munitions and rockets in preparation, mostly fro Iran, all for the D-day, where finally, they're going to eliminate Israel once and for all, Well, D-day they got, but the one they were hoping for,

I would like to see one member here, one, that will deny that Hamas are a terrorists group, bent on the destruction and elimination of the state of Israel. Anyone?

Before  I answer a post, I want to correct some false information earlier in this thread. Hamas has never renounced its 1988 Charter nor abandoned its goal of destroying Israel.  The 2017 revision to the Charter removed the worst antisemitic tropes, but explicitly stated “Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea.”   https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full

 

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

You can use any excuse you want if it makes you sleep better at night, but the lack of proportionality between the original attack and the complete leveling of Gaza and the slaughter of tens of thousands of Palestinians has gone completely out of control. 

 

No excuse is necessary.  I support the severity of the Israeli response due to the need for the Israeli government and IDF to protect its people and defend the continued existence of Israel as the homeland of the world's Jews.  How can Israel remain "proportional" when fighting an enemy vowed to its destruction?  Hamas' religion-inspired ideology has made the conflict an all-or-nothing proposition for both sides.  Israel has to destroy Hamas to guarantee its survival; the purpose of Hamas is to destroy Israel.  Never again is today!

 

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It would not only appear to many of us, but many Israeli officials have publicly stated that the end goal is to finish Gaza, and finish the Palestinian people in those territories. 

 

The end goal of the Israeli government plan to occupy Gaza City  is to finish Hamas, not the Palestinian people.  

 

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

 Israel was never sincere about finding a solution to this problem. 

 

From the adoption of the U.N. partition plan in 1947 through to recent times, Israel has been willing to consider a two-state solution. It's Hamas and other militant groups which have always refused to recognize Israel's right to exist.  That is the real solution to the problem.

2 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

The end goal of the Israeli government plan to occupy Gaza City  is to finish Hamas, not the Palestinian people.  

And you accuse others of believing propaganda.

Saw a Palestinian man on NBC news today screaming in despair "my son" again and again, as he was holding the small lifeless bloodied body of his 6 year old son and wading through rubble.

 

These heart breaking scenes of horror fill you with hatred for those responsible for the atrocity in Gaza. And i do not even live in Gaza nor am I Arab.

 

One can only imagine the hatred the father of this child must feel for the killers.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Saw a Palestinian man on NBC news today screaming in despair "my son" again and again, as he was holding the small lifeless bloodied body of his 6 year old son and wading through rubble.

 

These heart breaking scenes of horror fill you with hatred for those responsible for the atrocity in Gaza. And i do not even live in Gaza nor am I Arab.

 

One can only imagine the hatred the father of this child must feel for the killers.

 

   The same hatred felt by Israelis after Oct 7 th ?

They were celebrating when Israeli children were murdered .

Singing and dancing as they gave the coffins of babies back to Israel .

Babies who were abducted and torn from their Mothers arms  who were then all killed by Palestineians and their corpses held hostage  .

   Can you imagine the hatred Israelis felt ?

26 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The same hatred felt by Israelis after Oct 7 th ?

They were celebrating when Israeli children were murdered .

Singing and dancing as they gave the coffins of babies back to Israel .

Babies who were abducted and torn from their Mothers arms  who were then all killed by Palestineians and their corpses held hostage  .

   Can you imagine the hatred Israelis felt ?

 

Yes, but that father was not involved in that. And even less that 6 year old boy who was killed. 

 

So that's not relevant to his death.

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, but that father was not involved in that. And even less that 6 year old boy who was killed. 

 

So that's not relevant to his death.

 

   He will have to accept the consequences of a war which his people started 

13 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   He will have to accept the consequences of a war which his people started 

 

Quite a consequence to hold your 6 year old son dead in your arms.

 

However, causation is not that remote. The real cause was the IDF targeting civilian housing indiscriminately.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Quite a consequence to hold your 6 year old son dead in your arms.

 

However, causation is not that remote. The real cause was the IDF targeting civilian housing indiscriminately.

 

   It would never have happened if Palestine didn't attack Israel on Oct 7 th 

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Saw a Palestinian man on NBC news today screaming in despair "my son" again and again, as he was holding the small lifeless bloodied body of his 6 year old son and wading through rubble.

 

These heart breaking scenes of horror fill you with hatred for those responsible for the atrocity in Gaza. And i do not even live in Gaza nor am I Arab.

 

One can only imagine the hatred the father of this child must feel for the killers.

Thats what NBC is there for. You fell for it

2 minutes ago, angryguy said:

Thats what NBC is there for. You fell for it

 

They keep putting that stuff on. 

 

It's upsetting to watch. Seeing that tiny lifeless body of a 6  year old boy carried by his fatehr has put a damper on the whole day now.

4 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Saw a Palestinian man on NBC news today screaming in despair "my son" again and again, as he was holding the small lifeless bloodied body of his 6 year old son and wading through rubble.

 

These heart breaking scenes of horror fill you with hatred for those responsible for the atrocity in Gaza. And i do not even live in Gaza nor am I Arab.

 

One can only imagine the hatred the father of this child must feel for the killers.

Simply, tell your people to stop joining Hamas and die, you're lucy in the sense that, if it wasn't for the hostages,

Many more 'sons and daughters' would have gone by now, Does the Palestinians really think that they can win this war? or any other war against people who have nowhere to go anymore?

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It would never have happened if Palestine didn't attack Israel on Oct 7 th 

 

October 7th would never have happened if Israel didn't commit the Nakbah

 

12 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Simply, tell your people to stop joining Hamas and die, you're lucy in the sense that, if it wasn't for the hostages,

Many more 'sons and daughters' would have gone by now, Does the Palestinians really think that they can win this war? or any other war against people who have nowhere to go anymore?

 

The Palestinians are winning the war of public opinion, and they are beginning to be recognised, whether they will win any more than that is yet to be seen.

 

However, Israel has already lost.

16 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Simply, tell your people to stop joining Hamas and die, you're lucy in the sense that, if it wasn't for the hostages,

Many more 'sons and daughters' would have gone by now, Does the Palestinians really think that they can win this war? or any other war against people who have nowhere to go anymore?

Of course they can't win any war, without a real army. But the image of that lifeless 6 year old body being carried by his father. I can't get it out of my mind. 

 

What a horrific image to start the day with. 

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Of course they can't win any war, without a real army. But the image of that lifeless 6 year old body being carried by his father. I can't get it out of my mind. 

 

What a horrific image to start the day with. 

 

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Of course they can't win any war, without a real army. But the image of that lifeless 6 year old body being carried by his father. I can't get it out of my mind. 

 

What a horrific image to start the day with. 

How about the image of the 1200 Israelis who were slain, beheaded, rapped, and burned? remember

THOSE images? or were they of just of some Jewish people of never no mind?