Just now, DezLez said:

No I was thinking months!

Nooo, he goes to 7/11 on his own..........😋

Just now, transam said:

Nooo, he goes to 7/11 on his own..........😋

According to it but if true I'll settle for years!

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

There is a difference between cognitive awareness and biological complexity and we really do not know much about the different life forms what they think, and what their abilities is. We sharing many of the same hierarchies patterns as many other animals and insects, so what really ties them together except from being the fittest of the fittest would be ignorance by us to think we are so special compared to every other living creatures. 

 

After all we know F all, and that’s quite clear when you see how we exploit this planet and removes us selves from the eco system because we can and ruin our own planet which is our home, and only home we got

Every year there is a new "we could" theory. 

They will have to increase the pension age then!

6 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Every year there is a new "we could" theory. 

You mean? I'm not following your thinking above about We could? Live longer you mean? 

 

Done do live longer today, and just in 100 years or so we have more than doubled life expectancy. 

 

Works life expectancy was in the 1900 32 years

11 hours ago, JAG said:

They will have to increase the pension age then!

 

To what?

Work until you're 900 years old? 

 

Just how many 90 day reports is this?

10 hours ago, Hummin said:

You mean? I'm not following your thinking above about We could? Live longer you mean? 

 

Done do live longer today, and just in 100 years or so we have more than doubled life expectancy. 

 

Works life expectancy was in the 1900 32 years

 

7 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You mean? I'm not following your thinking above about We could? Live longer you mean? 

 

Done do live longer today, and just in 100 years or so we have more than doubled life expectancy. 

 

Works life expectancy was in the 1900 32 years

 

Human life expectancy may have reached its peak, according to recent research published in the journal Nature Aging. The study, led by S. Jay Olshansky of the University of Illinois Chicago, suggests that average life expectancy has likely plateaued, with a maximum average age of around 87 years—approximately 84 for men and 90 for women—unless there is a transformative breakthrough in medical science.

 

(If anyone believes the 1000 year theory they will believe anything)

6 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

 

Human life expectancy may have reached its peak, according to recent research published in the journal Nature Aging. The study, led by S. Jay Olshansky of the University of Illinois Chicago, suggests that average life expectancy has likely plateaued, with a maximum average age of around 87 years—approximately 84 for men and 90 for women—unless there is a transformative breakthrough in medical science.

 

(If anyone believes the 1000 year theory they will believe anything)

Life expectancy for any men born in the 1950s is 74.

They know this because half of us have already died.

 

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/TR/2011/lr5a4.html

11 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

(If anyone believes the 1000 year theory they will believe anything)

 

Well, one theory I came across is that in 20 years, it will be "normal" for people to live until 120. 

 

So that sounds plausible. 

 

53 minutes ago, transam said:

But, I think we all know older folk and how their actions changed with age, that includes myself and Trump........🤪

So, if it all revolves around a brain, I can't see it happening, unless the Chinese come up with an electronic replacement brain too..... 🤖

 

well, they just came up with a robot that can replace its own battery whenever needed without the aid of a human!  an AI company just fired 150 AI workers, indicating in the bye bye message that they were being replaced by the robots that they had created!  Grandfather of AI says that by 2034 robots will be smarter than humans!  just what are all those living today going to find to survive for the rest of their lives?

 

3 hours ago, Dario said:

Amazing! I wonder how this could be achieved. I'm 79 ½ and I lose more power with every single passing day...

yeah we have seen what has happened in the first 6 months of Trumps presidency - just imagine the world after 3.5 more years  and hey, you are the same age as he is but he seems to be gaining more power each day.

9 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

WELL, actually life expectancy in some western countries declines at the moment. 

 

Especially in the Us 

 

U.S. life expectancy drop caused by more than pandemic

COVID-19 played a role, but the larger story is an unhealthy and inequitable society, says a Carolina expert

 

https://www.unc.edu/discover/u-s-life-expectancy-drop-caused-by-more-than-pandemic/

 

and you cant claim covid vaccines had something to do with it, because countries where higher percentage than us had one or more vaccines, and these countries haven’t seen the same declain in life expectancy after covid.  

17 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

To what?

Work until you're 900 years old? 

 

Im not going to retire before I have to. Work is part of a good life which gives daily routines 

13 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

unless there is a transformative breakthrough in medical science.

 

 

This will happen in the next 10 or 15 years with AI.

12 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

 

Human life expectancy may have reached its peak, according to recent research published in the journal Nature Aging. The study, led by S. Jay Olshansky of the University of Illinois Chicago, suggests that average life expectancy has likely plateaued, with a maximum average age of around 87 years—approximately 84 for men and 90 for women—unless there is a transformative breakthrough in medical science.

 

(If anyone believes the 1000 year theory they will believe anything)

I do not believe, or even predict, Im just sure we can still improve with technology and knowledge if there is resources to do so. And life expectancy will go up and down because of natural causes and also because of wars as well common wealth

1 minute ago, Presnock said:

yeah we have seen what has happened in the first 6 months of Trumps presidency - just imagine the world after 3.5 more years  and hey, you are the same age as he is but he seems to be gaining more power each day.

I doubt Trump will last that long, although he does have the best medical support on the planet.

 

He's obese, and has edema. That's only the publicly discernible ailments, because his health tests are guarded like Fort Knox.

I don’t know whether this is true. I worked with a guy who was of Greek heritage and he told me that a lot of Greeks that lived in Australia and returned to their homeland and collected the Australian Social Security aged pension, the majority of them live to be about 115 -120 years old.
The pension keeps them alive 

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

I doubt Trump will last that long, although he does have the best medical support on the planet.

 

He's obese, and has edema. That's only the publicly discernible ailments, because his health tests are guarded like Fort Knox.

 

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

I doubt Trump will last that long, although he does have the best medical support on the planet.

 

He's obese, and has edema. That's only the publicly discernible ailments, because his health tests are guarded like Fort Knox.

 

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

I doubt Trump will last that long, although he does have the best medical support on the planet.

 

He's obese, and has edema. That's only the publicly discernible ailments, because his health tests are guarded like Fort Knox.

Actually, his health secrets are kept by himself - his doctors realize what could happen too them if they exposed whatever they found/find. IMHO, having worked in the field of intelligence of the highest classifications, there is nothing of a higher classification than his health reports and doctors sign away their lives before learning anything that is harmful for the human body!

11 hours ago, Lacessit said:

He's obese, and has edema. That's only the publicly discernible ailments, because his health tests are guarded like Fort Knox.

Why should be publish his blood work for the general public?

So his haters can foam at the mouth wishing his sudden demise?

 

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

WELL, actually life expectancy in some western countries declines at the moment. 

 

Especially in the Us 

 

U.S. life expectancy drop caused by more than pandemic

COVID-19 played a role, but the larger story is an unhealthy and inequitable society, says a Carolina expert

 

https://www.unc.edu/discover/u-s-life-expectancy-drop-caused-by-more-than-pandemic/

 

and you cant claim covid vaccines had something to do with it, because countries where higher percentage than us had one or more vaccines, and these countries haven’t seen the same declain in life expectancy after covid.  

Average life expectancy in America is 78 years. 40% of Americans are obese.

 

Average life expectancy in Japan is 84.5 years. 45 of Japanese are obese.

 

Draw your own conclusions.

I sure hope not. First of all the overpopulation issues alone would be absolutely horrendous, and secondarily who on earth would want to live beyond a hundred?

 

I am not even sure I want to live beyond 90. For me it's all about quality of life, certainly not the length of life. 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Jack Hammer said:

I don’t know whether this is true. I worked with a guy who was of Greek heritage and he told me that a lot of Greeks that lived in Australia and returned to their homeland and collected the Australian Social Security aged pension, the majority of them live to be about 115 -120 years old.
The pension keeps them alive 

And Jesus walked on water and turned water to wine in a moment. 

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Why should be publish his blood work for the general public?

So his haters can foam at the mouth wishing his sudden demise?

 

So you don't want to know if the person with his thumb on the nuclear button is healthy physically and mentally. Got it.

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Average life expectancy in America is 78 years. 40% of Americans are obese.

 

Average life expectancy in Japan is 84.5 years. 45 of Japanese are obese.

 

Draw your own conclusions.

And is it because Americans are more stupid, or is it because of education and food culture, and culture in general?

 

I think we can say with right that USA have some of the most healthiest people on the planet, and some of the most unhealthy people on the planet, where there is more of the latter. 

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Average life expectancy in America is 78 years. 40% of Americans are obese.

 

Average life expectancy in Japan is 84.5 years. 45 of Japanese are obese.

 

Draw your own conclusions.

45 of Japanese? Surely you mean 15%?

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

45 of Japanese? Surely you mean 15%?

My bad, I meant 4%.

13 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I do not believe, or even predict, Im just sure we can still improve with technology and knowledge if there is resources to do so. And life expectancy will go up and down because of natural causes and also because of wars as well common wealth

As countries begin crying about the drastically falling birth rates, at the same time financial securiy systems for the aged continue to shrink.  What happens when someone gets to that end of the security system and no money available any longer?  Those years seem to be approaching rather quickly.  Yeah like the US system will still have money available in 2034 but it will continue to shrink - meanwhile the cost of living seems to be increasing all the time.  If I were on social security only as are way too many, I would be extremely worried about how  I will survive if I reach that year.  But there are tons of people younger that will have to survive on much less.  Right now home ownership for the most part is with my generation and the younger generations unable to find jobs that enable them to buy a house and even to afford the rentals in many areas today.  Therefore you can check the statistics about migration of workers from many high tax states going to lower tax states.  Scary for sure IMHO.

It's a shame she won't live forever, but then again, who does?”

 

— Rachel, Blade Runner (1982)

 

Look, in the last fifty years, tech and brain science have come on dramatically. I remember fiddling with valve-run oscilloscopes—heavy, clunky things that barely did much, by comparison today. 

 

We’re working with lab-grown clusters of real human neurons—organoids (well, not me personally, 555),hooked up to machines.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organoid_intelligence

 

Then there’s Elon Musk, pushing deep brain implants.

Thing is, the tech behind that isn’t brand new 

it’s been used in EEG for forty years. Musk’s just taking it further.

 

Tech moves in ways you can’t always see coming. Maybe one day, those organoids get linked up with a digital copy of what we call consciousness. Whatever that actually means.

 

William James nailed it:

 

“Consciousness is the awareness of self and environment.”

 

Might not get us immortality, but it’ll definitely change how we think about being alive.

 

“Life is the expression of the will to live.”

Arthur Schopenhauer