1 minute ago, newbee2022 said:

Are you addressing the Palestinians? Do you ask them how they are feeling??

 

The Palestinians do not have a country. They have been offered one many times but always refuse.

If the Palestinians are living in their own country, why are they still considered refugees?

16 hours ago, CharlieH said:

Both attackers were shot dead by swift action from security and a courageous civilian.

 

What's that?  A good guy with a gun?  Stopping a bad guy with a gun...

 

Edit:  I'd add that the "courageous civilian" had a permit to carry a handgun legally, according to other news sources.

 

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Are you addressing the Palestinians? Do you ask them how they are feeling??

They feel Israel should be destroyed.

Don't expect they're feeling very good about that now.

Over the years, they've made their situation progressively worse. They never tried to accept the reality of Israel.

Placing their trust in Hamas 20 years ago, cheering on the Oct 7 massacres and unable to return the hostages, demonstrates how screwed up they've become. Meanwhile the other faction in the West Bank is little better.

3 minutes ago, loong said:

They have been offered one many times but always refuse.

What country should that be? 

You have to study the facts. Then you'll see what poisoned offer Israel made.

Palestinian statehood | Recognition, History, Sovereignty, Israel, Diplomatic Relations, & Map | Britannica

6 minutes ago, Donga said:

They feel Israel should be destroyed.

Don't expect they're feeling very good about that now.

Over the years, they've made their situation progressively worse. They never tried to accept the reality of Israel.

Placing their trust in Hamas 20 years ago, cheering on the Oct 7 massacres and unable to return the hostages, demonstrates how screwed up they've become. Meanwhile the other faction in the West Bank is little better.

You don't know the facts.

"Hamas" represents only half of the Palestinians. And only a small fraction is called "extremists", a military fraction (Al Qassam) , around a quarter of Hamas. That means Israel is voluntarily committing war crimes by killing innocent people who intended to live in peace with Israel.

The victims are these people.

If about some war casualties, might be by Israel.

If terror is the signature, definitely by Hamas....

6 minutes ago, Andre0720 said:

If about some war casualties, might be by Israel.

If terror is the signature, definitely by Hamas....

No, just the opposite

12 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Oh hi...welcome.... You support killing pregant jewish ladies too?

...not only killing pregnant Jewish ladies but also children and babies. Hardly surprising that Palestinians are neither liked nor trusted anywhere throughout the Middle East.

Peace seeking Israel. The syrian people had at last got rid of their murdering dictator and what was Israel response. They sent in their airforce to decimate the Syrian airforce, navy and other infrastructure. Then sent land forces to encroach on Syrian land.

 

Just liberated Syria had not threatened or driven one mile toward Israel. Such a friendly gesture of peace to their neighbour.

 

 

19 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

No, just the opposite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztlL4eswu4Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztlL4eswu4Y

 

So you would presumably be part of the religion of peace.

 

1 hour ago, Donga said:

The Palestinians never accepted the UN mandate, have developed a society of vile haters and conducted hundreds of terrorist attacks against Israelis since 1948 resulting in over 5,000 deaths. This is just another.. https://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/terrisraelsum.html

 

Is it any wonder that Israel has continued to develop West Bank settlements over the years?

How would you feel living near people who want to destroy you and your country?
 

Since 1948, Palestinians have also endured mass displacement, occupation, land confiscations, and thousands of civilian deaths from Israeli military actions. To say Palestinians are uniquely defined by hatred ignores the reality of living under decades of occupation without equal rights or sovereignty.

Settlements are not a defensive measure - they are illegal under international law and are built on occupied land that was supposed to form a Palestinian state. Expanding settlements does not make Israelis safer - it deepens resentment, fuels radicalization, and makes peace harder to achieve.

If you ask how it feels to live next to people who want to destroy your country - imagine how it feels for Palestinians to live under military occupation, checkpoints, home demolitions, and settlement expansion. Both peoples deserve security - but security cannot come through domination. It can only come through a just peace that respects the rights and humanity of both Israelis and Palestinians.

1 hour ago, loong said:

 

The Palestinians do not have a country. They have been offered one many times but always refuse.

If the Palestinians are living in their own country, why are they still considered refugees?

It’s misleading to say Palestinians “refuse” a country. What has been offered historically were not viable, fully sovereign states - they were fragmented territories without real control over borders, resources, or security. No nation would accept an “independent” state under another’s military control.

As for refugees, the answer is straightforward - Palestinians are still considered refugees because they were displaced from their original homes in 1948 and 1967, and the international community - through the UN - still recognizes that unresolved status. Living under limited self-rule in parts of the West Bank or Gaza does not make those areas a sovereign country, so their refugee claim remains.

Palestinians have not rejected “a country” - they have rejected incomplete offers that deny genuine independence. And until they have a truly recognized state and their refugee rights addressed, they remain refugees under international law.

The issue is not about Palestinians refusing peace - it is about them being denied a real and sovereign country. Refugee status continues because the root causes of displacement remain unresolved - borders, security, resources, and the right of return. Until Palestinians are offered genuine independence, it is inaccurate to claim they have simply refused a state. What they have rejected are partial deals that no people would accept as true freedom.  

12 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

...not only killing pregnant Jewish ladies but also children and babies. Hardly surprising that Palestinians are neither liked nor trusted anywhere throughout the Middle East.

Israel is guilty of the same crimes against Palestinian civilians. Entire families have been wiped out in airstrikes, babies pulled from rubble, and hospitals bombed. If killing innocents makes a people untrustworthy, then Israel is equally guilty.

As for Palestinians being “neither liked nor trusted” – that claim is false. Across the Middle East, public opinion surveys consistently show deep solidarity with the Palestinian cause. It is governments, often allied with Israel or the U.S., that are cautious – not the people.

11 minutes ago, Andre0720 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztlL4eswu4Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztlL4eswu4Y

 

So you would presumably be part of the religion of peace.

 

Disgraceful - conflating the action of a couple of soldiers of the terrorist wing of Hamas to the peaceful religion of Islam. Surely this hate speech is against forum rules.

1 hour ago, loong said:

 

and usually by another Arab!

 

 

 

Yes, people die in wars unfortunately. Only 40 deaths in a day are not enough to support the media's cries of genocide, so no, it does not make headlines.

How many Israelis have died in this war compared to Palestinians?

27 minutes ago, Andre0720 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztlL4eswu4Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztlL4eswu4Y

 

So you would presumably be part of the religion of peace.

 

There is nothing better than peace

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

You don't know the facts.

"Hamas" represents only half of the Palestinians. And only a small fraction is called "extremists", a military fraction (Al Qassam) , around a quarter of Hamas. That means Israel is voluntarily committing war crimes by killing innocent people who intended to live in peace with Israel.

The victims are these people.

So the innocent Gazans quite merrily allow the "small fraction" to store weapons, command posts, firing positions amongst their schools, hospitals and refugee camps and unwilling to get this "small fraction" to lay down their arms and return the hostages. Their teenage sons carry arms.

And their rulers planned over years the tunnels, military posts amongst civilian infrastructure to carry out their human shield strategy which so many people choose to ignore. The IDF doesn't. And even with human shields the civilian/terrorist death rate is low by comparison to other conflicts.

The Palestinians are victims of their own utter hatred towards the Israeli nation.

2 minutes ago, Donga said:

So the innocent Gazans quite merrily allow the "small fraction" to store weapons, command posts, firing positions amongst their schools, hospitals and refugee camps and unwilling to get this "small fraction" to lay down their arms and return the hostages. Their teenage sons carry arms.

And their rulers planned over years the tunnels, military posts amongst civilian infrastructure to carry out their human shield strategy which so many people choose to ignore. The IDF doesn't. And even with human shields the civilian/terrorist death rate is low by comparison to other conflicts.

The Palestinians are victims of their own utter hatred towards the Israeli nation.

Just wrong, you follow unfortunately your fake facts only

41 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

killing pregnant Jewish ladies but also children

next you'll tell me they eat them?

37 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Israel is guilty of the same crimes against Palestinian civilians. Entire families have been wiped out in airstrikes, babies pulled from rubble, and hospitals bombed. If killing innocents makes a people untrustworthy, then Israel is equally guilty.

As for Palestinians being “neither liked nor trusted” – that claim is false. Across the Middle East, public opinion surveys consistently show deep solidarity with the Palestinian cause. It is governments, often allied with Israel or the U.S., that are cautious – not the people.

Having lived and worked in the Middle East for many years I can assure you that there is no support in the region whatsoever for Palestinians beyond token responses to the kind of surveys to which you refer.

17 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

next you'll tell me they eat them?

Some of the babies killed on 7 October 2023 were thrown onto fires and burned to death.

10 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Some of the babies killed on 7 October 2023 were thrown onto fires and burned to death.

Yes, I read that. The IDF is cruel, committing war crimes every day.

18 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Having lived and worked in the Middle East for many years I can assure you that there is no support in the region whatsoever for Palestinians beyond token responses to the kind of surveys to which you refer.

Which countries did you work and how long ago? The Middle East is diverse, and public opinion varies widely between countries, communities, and over time. Before claiming “no support whatsoever,” it is important to ask - are you fluent in the languages of the region, familiar with local media, and aware of the nuances of public opinion?   

13 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Some of the babies killed on 7 October 2023 were thrown onto fires and burned to death.

Israel (and Biden) lied about many things - 40 beheaded babies, put in microwaves, raped etc, all our Israeli propaganda.

Waging war on refugees and killing children has its consequences.

17 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Some of the babies killed on 7 October 2023 were thrown onto fires and burned to death.

How many babies were actually killed.

Israel have killed more babies under 1 year old than total civilians killed on Oct 7.

 

 

https://www.savethechildren.net/news/gaza-20000-children-killed-23-months-war-more-one-child-killed-every-hour

 

At least one Palestinian child has been killed every hour on average by Israeli forces in Gaza over nearly 23 months of war, with the number of children killed now surpassing 20,000, Save the Children said.

 

 

Just now, Cameroni said:

Waging war on refugees and killing children has its consequences.

Of course and Israel will be suffering the consequences of their evil govt. for many decades

20 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Some of the babies killed on 7 October 2023 were thrown onto fires and burned to death.

 

Trolling with BS lies is against forum rules, even if the lie is so absurd that you're laughed at. 🙂 

8 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Of course and Israel will be suffering the consequences of their evil govt. for many decades

 

Sadly they willl. They may conquer Gaza and beat a people without an army, but I wouldn't want to get a bus or plane in Israel.

2 hours ago, loong said:

they have been offered one many times but always refuse.

they have always been offered <deleted> deals

would be foolish to accept.