I'm not a vaccine sceptic,  but this video, presented by Naomi Wolf to the EU Commission. about the Pfizer MRNA vaccine and it's after effects is very interesting.

 

 

Please! No more vaccine topics.

6 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Please! No more vaccine topics.

If what she is saying is true, and you have sons or daughters that received Pfizer's  MRNA vaccine against Covid, you might not feel so blasé about it.

26 minutes ago, phetphet said:

I'm not a vaccine sceptic,  but this video, presented by Naomi Wolf to the EU Commission. about the Pfizer MRNA vaccine and it's after effects is very interesting.

 

 

If there's anything I learned since the roll-out of the mRNA Covid-19 gen-'vaccine', then it's that there is absolutely no need to apologize for being a vaccine sceptic... 

2 hours ago, phetphet said:

If what she is saying is true, and you have sons or daughters that received Pfizer's  MRNA vaccine against Covid, you might not feel so blasé about it.

 

And there lies the issue, lots of people have invested themselves too much in this, often giving it to their own children and condoning/participating in the discrimination of those who sounded the alarm bells.

 

They simply can't look at the reality as it is devastating for them.

 

Found of Lying  needs her day in court along with the others.

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

And there lies the issue, lots of people have invested themselves too much in this, often giving it to their own children and condoning/participating in the discrimination of those who sounded the alarm bells.

They simply can't look at the reality as it is devastating for them.

 

 

Yes, spot on!  Except for a couple of sociopaths on this Covid sub-Forum, the majority of posters here shouting 'conspiracy nonsense' on every new revelation about these killer-shots, by now do know deep-down that they have been played.  It's a combination of pride (not wanting to admit they were fooled), guilt (when they harmed their loved ones by having them jabbed) and shame (when they demonized those that tried to warn them).  

It will be a hard awakening...

5 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Please! No more vaccine topics.

Why not  ?  the truth must come out  no ?

20 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Yes, spot on!  Except for a couple of sociopaths on this Covid sub-Forum, the majority of posters here shouting 'conspiracy nonsense' on every new revelation about these killer-shots, by now do know deep-down that they have been played.  It's a combination of pride (not wanting to admit they were fooled), guilt (when they harmed their loved ones by having them jabbed) and shame (when they demonized those that tried to warn them).  

It will be a hard awakening...

I simply make the suggestion that all Pro-Vaxx members make sure that they get their mRNA boosters as often as deemed necessary by "The Experts."  They do humanity one heck of a service by selflessly volunteering to be unpaid long-term participants in long-term mRNA vaccine studies.

Thank you one an all.  And remember to keep repeating this mantra to yourselves between boosters: 
"Safe & Effective."

25 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

It will be a hard awakening...

 

It could be dangerous for the unvaxxed, we will not be forgiven for having been smarter and braver, such is the nature of humans, the violence will be directed at us. In the physical world, I'm keeping a low profile and not rubbing it in their faces.

2 minutes ago, connda said:

I simply make the suggestion that all Pro-Vaxx members make sure that they get their mRNA boosters as often as deemed necessary by "The Experts."  They do humanity one heck of a service by selflessly volunteering to be unpaid long-term participants in long-term mRNA vaccine studies.

Thank you one an all.  And remember to keep repeating this mantra to yourselves between boosters: 
"Safe & Effective."

 

"The vaccine is credited with saving XXX million lives…" Does anyone still actually say that? Probably a few still, on this forum.

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Naomi Rebekah Wolf (born 1962) is an American feminist author, journalist, and conspiracy theorist.

 

Shock! horror!

21 minutes ago, johng said:

Why not  ?  the truth must come out  no ?

So, what is the truth, then?

Is it that vaccines save lives, or does it kill more?

5 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Please! No more vaccine topics.

 

I understand where you are coming from and in fact, I agree that at this point, for your own mental wellbeing, you should probably not listen to Naomi Wolf's presentation. Keep on spreading the gospel, everything is going to be OK.

 

3 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I understand where you are coming from and in fact, I agree that at this point, for your own mental wellbeing, you should probably not listen to Naomi Wolf's presentation. Keep on spreading the gospel, everything is going to be OK.

 

 

Yeah, and she say that, and other show different info. Do you have a crush on her?

3 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Yeah, and she say that, and other show different info. Do you have a crush on her?

 

Don't listen to it.

52 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

So, what is the truth, then?

Is it that vaccines save lives, or does it kill more?

No vax has ever saved a life. Anywhere, any time. However, they have caused suffering and death to millions down the years.

 

Vaccines were developed because of the mysterious virus. That has never been found to exist outside of a computer programme.

 

The people of the world need truth. Perhaps more than ever before. We must discard apathy and ignorance, and return to our roots. We are the many; they the few.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

No vax has ever saved a life. Anywhere, any time. However, they have caused suffering and death to millions down the years.

 

Vaccines were developed because of the mysterious virus. That has never been found to exist outside of a computer programme.

 

The people of the world need truth. Perhaps more than ever before. We must discard apathy and ignorance, and return to our roots. We are the many; they the few.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

 

I believe in free speech - but it comes with obligations you seem determined to ignore.

Fabricating and broadcasting falsehoods is not debate or exercising free speed, its delusional activism - it’s a public hazard and your posing rights should be removed.

 

This isn’t about disagreeing with you - it’s about preventing demonstrably baseless claims from misleading people who don’t know better.

 

Your posts contain no virological or scientific merit and are therefore potentially harmful. That most people recognise how absurd your theories are is small consolation - even other activists must surely wince when you insist viruses don’t exist.

 

What do you say....

- Red Pheonix - Do you believe viruses exist ? Yes or No.

- Rumak - Do you believe viruses exist ? Yes or No.

- Rattlesnake - Do you believe viruses exist ? Yes or No.

 

 

Your endless repetition of the catchphrase ‘nature has the answers’ doesn’t make you sound wise - it only underscores your unhinged fixation. It’s not the words themselves, but your compulsive need to parrot them in every post that reveals the depth of your derangement

 

 

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

Naomi Rebekah Wolf (born 1962) is an American feminist author, journalist, and conspiracy theorist.

Childish temper. Copy and pasting it 4 times is silly. Obviously this alternative view upsets you greatly.  I believe vaccines are extremely beneficial but don't feel the need when others disagree to be a turd.

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

I believe in free speech - but it comes with obligations you seem determined to ignore.

Fabricating and broadcasting falsehoods is not debate or exercising free speed, its delusional activism - it’s a public hazard and your posing rights should be removed.

 

This isn’t about disagreeing with you - it’s about preventing demonstrably baseless claims from misleading people who don’t know better.

 

Your posts contain no virological or scientific merit and are therefore potentially harmful. That most people recognise how absurd your theories are is small consolation - even other activists must surely wince when you insist viruses don’t exist.

 

What do you say....

- Red Pheonix - Do you believe viruses exist ? Yes or No.

- Rumak - Do you believe viruses exist ? Yes or No.

- Rattlesnake - Do you believe viruses exist ? Yes or No.

 

 

Your endless repetition of the catchphrase ‘nature has the answers’ doesn’t make you sound wise - it only underscores your unhinged fixation. It’s not the words themselves, but your compulsive need to parrot them in every post that reveals the depth of your derangement

 

 

He is just expressing himself on a forum with many deranged indivuduals.  Zero danger in his post but having people like yourself policing free speech is a problem.  Yes?

 

We don't need protecting. 

5 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Childish temper. Copy and pasting it 4 times is silly. Obviously this alternative view upsets you greatly.  I believe vaccines are extremely beneficial but don't feel the need when others disagree to be a turd.

Who cares what you think, if any?

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Who cares what you think, if any?

OK - 555

 

8 minutes ago, atpeace said:

He is just expressing himself on a forum with many deranged indivuduals.  Zero danger in his post but having people like yourself policing free speech is a problem.  Yes?

 

We don't need protecting. 

 

YOU don’t need protecting because you’re not foolish enough to buy into the incessant nonsense – but clearly some are, as shown by the positive emojis supporting his comments and the negative ones piled on any contradicting arguments (in other Anti-vax threads).

 

There are people out there who genuinely listen, absorb, and assimilate this drivel.

 

 

Does it require my ‘policing’? No, of course not – though my opinion remains that such content should be policed.

 

The real issue with countering these moronic and incessant claims is that the posters flood the fora with them at such frequency that meaningful debate becomes impossible. To engage with someone so delusionally obscure is not to hold a dialogue but to grant nonsense an undeserved stage, elevating ignorance as though it were worthy of reasoned consideration.

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

YOU don’t need protecting because you’re not foolish enough to buy into the incessant nonsense – but clearly some are, as shown by the positive emojis supporting his comments and the negative ones piled on any contradicting arguments (in other Anti-vax threads).

 

There are people out there who genuinely listen, absorb, and assimilate this drivel.

 

 

Does it require my ‘policing’? No, of course not – though my opinion remains that such content should be policed.

 

The real issue with countering these moronic and incessant claims is that the posters flood the fora with them at such frequency that meaningful debate becomes impossible. To engage with someone so delusionally obscure is not to hold a dialogue but to grant nonsense an undeserved stage, elevating ignorance as though it were worthy of reasoned consideration.

I just ignore them and move on.  Trying to tell people what they can believe because they lack basic intellect is a scary proposition.  Do you really think that the poster you replied to is going have any impact on determining any substantial outcomes? 

9 minutes ago, atpeace said:

I just ignore them and move on. 

 

As do I, until I can be bothered with a response...

 

9 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Trying to tell people what they can believe because they lack basic intellect is a scary proposition. 

 

I would usually agree – however, when it comes to public health, the scarier proposition is to allow such misinformation to spread unchecked. Flat Earth theories are largely harmless curiosities, but anti-vax rhetoric can have tangible, dangerous consequences, as evidenced in Texas this year.

 

The difference lies in impact: one is little more than a parlour trick of ignorance, the other undermines science, endangers lives, and erodes public trust in medicine.

 

9 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Do you really think that the poster you replied to is going have any impact on determining any substantial outcomes? 

 

I would hope not – but such levels of delusion are rarely solitary voices. The paranoid, the neurotic, and the so-called ‘free thinkers’ wear their ignorance like a badge of honour, working tirelessly to convert others and amass followers with all the zeal of religious fanatics, armed only with broken rhetoric.

 

At times, there must be a counterpoint – a voice of reason to expose the foolishness for what it is.

 

On this forum, some of us provide that voice when we can be bothered to descend from reason into the mire.

7 hours ago, phetphet said:

I'm not a vaccine sceptic,  but this video, presented by Naomi Wolf to the EU Commission. about the Pfizer MRNA vaccine and it's after effects is very interesting.

 

And now that we're all out of chiropractors, crystal healers, palm readers, golem channelers, ouiji board purveyors, and quantum sasquatch wranglers, we have Naomi!

 

 

She attended Yale University, receiving her Bachelor of Arts in English literature in 1984. From 1985 to 1987, she was a Rhodes Scholar at New College, University of Oxford

 

returned to Oxford, completing her Doctor of Philosophy degree in English literature in 2015

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Wolf

 

 

"Hey, Naomi, it hurts when i do this."

"Well, don't do that! It reinforces the patriarchy!"

 

 

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

...

I would usually agree – however, when it comes to public health, the scarier proposition is to allow such misinformation to spread unchecked. Flat Earth theories are largely harmless curiosities, but anti-vax rhetoric can have tangible, dangerous consequences, as evidenced in Texas this year.

The difference lies in impact: one is little more than a parlour trick of ignorance, the other undermines science, endangers lives, and erodes public trust in medicine.

 

I would hope not – but such levels of delusion are rarely solitary voices. The paranoid, the neurotic, and the so-called ‘free thinkers’ wear their ignorance like a badge of honour, working tirelessly to convert others and amass followers with all the zeal of religious fanatics, armed only with broken rhetoric.

At times, there must be a counterpoint – a voice of reason to expose the foolishness for what it is.

On this forum, some of us provide that voice when we can be bothered to descend from reason into the mire.

...

 

What a load of self-righteous bull!

6 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

What a load of self-righteous bull!

When seeking guidance on medical issues, I choose to bypass medical studies altogether and turn to Substack, where I find insights from unqualified sources. This unconventional approach often resonates with me more than formal research.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

Your posts contain no virological or scientific merit and are therefore potentially harmful. That most people recognise how absurd your theories are is small consolation - even other activists must surely wince when you insist viruses don’t exist.

Thanks for your Reply Richard Buddy.

 

I've put plenty of research info out there. However! It's a like having a conversation with a religious person who is trying to convince you that god exists. You say that you are not a believer. And then you are asked prove there is no god.

 

Surely, those that say vaccines are good for you, should be able to say what they are for. And if the answer is to 'counteract' a virus; then the next question from me is; show me a virus.

 

My research shows me a couple of 'truths'. The first is that I've not seen evidence that a pathogenic virus has been found; that is in isolation and purification. Secondly; that infection between people is possible (as in the virus world).

 

There is plenty of evidence out there Sir. Much of it posted by me. Open you mind and stop watching MSM.

 

https://odysee.com/@Stichting_Vaccinvrij:e/dr-susanne-humphries-over-mazelen-het:d

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

You can't see gravity.

It isn't real.

Nobody has ever produced a cup of gravity.

 

It's only a theory.

 

Like germs.