1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Of course one person shot him. However, there is already a database of 60,000 plus leftists who were cheering on the assassination.

 

in fact surveys have shown that 40% of Democrats would support removing Trump by any means. Only 8% of Democrats believe Kirk's killer is a leftist.

 

The reality is that an incredibly large proportion of leftists is prepared to use violence, we see it now with 60,000 plus leftists cheering Charlie's assassination.

 

We also see it here, with a Fox news van having a bomb placed on its underside by leftist extremists..

 

2 Utah men arrested after explosive device found under news media vehicle

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/utah-man-arrested-after-explosive-device-found-news/story?id=125564512

 

There is a network of leftists who are prepared to kill and commit violence in America.

You mean the database that comes from the anonymous organization calling itself the Charlie Kirk Data Foundation? 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/thousands-flagged-to-face-consequences-for-cheering-charlie-kirk-s-death/ar-AA1MBb8D

 

But even in the dubious case that his information is true, 75,000,000 Americans voted for Kamala Harris. So that means so far, based on a very dubious source, less than 1% of the number of Americans who voted for Harris, approved of the assassination.

3 minutes ago, mogandave said:

But when some whacko attack a leftist, it’s all about the MAGA hate spewing Trump, right?

 

You guys crack me up, Go watch the view for some  fresh talking points. 

 

 

So, genuine question......what do you think causes the 'right to attack the left' and are these attacks justified?

 

Multiple studies—including from the Cato Institute—show that right-wing extremists have been responsible for more politically motivated killings in the U.S. than left-wing groups over the past several decades.

 

•  Right-wing extremists: 391 deaths

•  Left-wing extremists: 65 deaths

 

55 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

The left is so filled with hate that it goes to kill people in front of their children and wife, and then complains others are full of hate.

 

You are a disgrace.

The left went to kill Charlie Vance? And out of all leftists only one actually managed to do it? They can't be much of a threat then, can they?

2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

You mean the database that comes from the anonymous organization calling itself the Charlie Kirk Data Foundation? 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/thousands-flagged-to-face-consequences-for-cheering-charlie-kirk-s-death/ar-AA1MBb8D

 

But even in the dubious case that his information is true, 75,000,000 Americans voted for Kamala Harris. So that means so far, based on a very dubious source, less than 1% of the number of Americans who voted for Harris, approved of the assassination.

 

No. 

 

That's only those who openly cheered the assassination. Many millions more cheered quietly.

 

But it's good.

 

Because this allows the purge of educators, and others in important positions who are extreme leftists and should never be in those positions. So it's actually good news.

 

We've even seen Jimmy Kimmel come out and say that Kirk's killer was a MAGA member. This cheering assassination is killing many careers. Which is good news.

Just now, Alan Zweibel said:

The left went to kill Charlie Vance? And out of all leftists only one actually managed to do it? They can't be much of a threat then, can they?

 

 

Cameroni is the only person in ten years I have put on my ignore list....but you might want to ask about this....

 

Multiple studies—including from the Cato Institute—show that right-wing extremists have been responsible for more politically motivated killings in the U.S. than left-wing groups over the past several decades.

 

•  Right-wing extremists: 391 deaths

•  Left-wing extremists: 65 deaths

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

Cameroni is the only person in ten years I have put on my ignore list....but you might want to ask about this....

 

I'm afraid your list is of no consequence Will.

 

The only lists that matter are elsewhere. 

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No. 

 

That's only those who openly cheered the assassination. Many millions more cheered quietly.

 

But it's good.

 

Because this allows the purge of educators, and others in important positions who are extreme leftists and should never be in those positions. So it's actually good news.

 

We've even seen Jimmy Kimmel come out and say that Kirk's killer was a MAGA member. This cheering assassination is killing many careers. Which is good news.

"Many millions more cheered quietly."

From fortune telling to mass mind reading. Your abilities are astounding.

The same boneheaded leftists that know nothing about the Constitution and free speech rights, are claiming that celebrating someone’s death is somehow “dissent. 

 

These same people would have you fired and held up ti ridicule if you wore blackface on Halloween twenty years ago. 

20 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Of course one person shot him. However, there is already a database of 60,000 plus leftists who were cheering on the assassination.

 

in fact surveys have shown that 40% of Democrats would support removing Trump by any means. Only 8% of Democrats believe Kirk's killer is a leftist.

 

The reality is that an incredibly large proportion of leftists is prepared to use violence, we see it now with 60,000 plus leftists cheering Charlie's assassination.

 

We also see it here, with a Fox news van having a bomb placed on its underside by leftist extremists..

 

2 Utah men arrested after explosive device found under news media vehicle

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/utah-man-arrested-after-explosive-device-found-news/story?id=125564512

 

There is a network of leftists who are prepared to kill and commit violence in America.

Ok, i agree ..... but have you ever heard of the Proud Boys? Yes they sound gay but i can assure you they are not of course.

The Oath Keepers?

 

Are they all peaceful and not willing to kill and commit violence?

Have they done so in the past?

 

 

2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

"Many millions more cheered quietly."

From fortune telling to mass mind reading. Your abilities are astounding.

Are you so simple minded that you believe one would have to be a mindreader to believe that?

 

 

4 minutes ago, jvs said:

Ok, i agree ..... but have you ever heard of the Proud Boys? Yes they sound gay but i can assure you they are not of course.

The Oath Keepers?

 

Are they all peaceful and not willing to kill and commit violence?

Have they done so in the past?

 

 

 

I don't know anything about the "Proud Boys". But I do know that when the Nazis claimed at Nuremberg "But you killed mililons of civilians too" their defense was not successful.

13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No. 

 

That's only those who openly cheered the assassination. Many millions more cheered quietly.

 

But it's good.

 

Because this allows the purge of educators, and others in important positions who are extreme leftists and should never be in those positions. So it's actually good news.

 

We've even seen Jimmy Kimmel come out and say that Kirk's killer was a MAGA member. This cheering assassination is killing many careers. Which is good news.

Those damned leftists. 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/1-in-5-americans-think-violence-may-solve-u-s-divisions-poll-finds

 

You need to tune up your mind reading antennae.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

You picked a strange new name, JakeC, but still spewing the same nonsense I see. How many other accounts do you have?

 

Again you are  wrong wrong wrong.

I dont deny the possibility of reincaration or reinvention at all, but no idea who jake c is`.  
 

I wonder if this will be a flash in the pan or will we look back someday and say "the assassination of Charlie Kirk was the US's 'Horst Wessel' moment.". 

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

I don't know anything about the "Proud Boys". But I do know that when the Nazis claimed at Nuremberg "But you killed mililons of civilians too" their defense was not successful.

Well educate yourself,there are lots of articles and you can even join them!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_Boys

I don't really believe you don't know about them.

But i do know the Nuremberg trials have nothing to do with this topic.

Nice try but all too common.

1 minute ago, Callmeishmael said:

I wonder if this will be a flash in the pan or will we look back someday and say "the assassination of Charlie Kirk was the US's 'Horst Wessel' moment.". 

 

Well, JD Vance and Stephen Miller have announced that they will pursue leftist groups.

 

Employers who are not left wing have seen that it is perfectly legal and permissible to fire employees who express ultra left hatred of others. 

 

Arnold Schwarzenegger has just warned that democracy in America will change.

 

It will depend on how far the current administration are willing to go in pursuing leftist groups.

 

The problem we have is that we can't incarcerate all the millions of deluded, vile, leftists who live in America today. Perhaps a strong fist on the heads of the most extreme will be the best that can be done.

10 minutes ago, jvs said:

Ok, i agree ..... but have you ever heard of the Proud Boys? Yes they sound gay but i can assure you they are not of course.

The Oath Keepers?

 

Are they all peaceful and not willing to kill and commit violence?

Have they done so in the past?

 

 

Were not they investigated, broken up and many incarcerated? 

 

“ Nothing to hide, nothing to fear”

 

Sound familiar?

2 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Were not they investigated, broken up and many incarcerated? 

 

“ Nothing to hide, nothing to fear”

 

Sound familiar?

Good point, In fact President Trump found them to be so abhorrent the he pardoned the leader of the Proud Boys. Not just commuted his sentence but actually pardoned him. And other members of those organizations.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/oath-keepers-proud-boys-leaders-prison-after-trump/story?id=117940370

 

6 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Were not they investigated, broken up and many incarcerated? 

 

“ Nothing to hide, nothing to fear”

 

Sound familiar?

Did some get pardoned by trump?

33 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

So, genuine question......what do you think causes the 'right to attack the left' and are these attacks justified?

 

Multiple studies—including from the Cato Institute—show that right-wing extremists have been responsible for more politically motivated killings in the U.S. than left-wing groups over the past several decades.

 

•  Right-wing extremists: 391 deaths

•  Left-wing extremists: 65 deaths

 

You are not an honest broker. 

 

6 minutes ago, jvs said:

Did some get pardoned by trump?

Why are you not able to give an honest answer? 

 

Are you against political organizations being investigated?

A local Democrat Party leader called for more violence "Let's make more martyrs! I'm so tired of being told violence is not the answer".

 

Montgomery County Democratic official resigns after backlash to her Facebook comments on Charlie Kirk’s death

In a now-deleted post, Jennifer Stomsky criticized Democrats’ response to the assassination.

 

Jennifer Stomsky, Ambler Borough’s tax collector, has resigned as vice chair of the Wissahickon Democratic Committee following backlash to her Facebook comments she made in the wake of conservative activist Charlie Kirk’s assassination.

 

In a since-deleted post, Stomsky wrote that “history is filled with blood,” and responded in the comment section to another poster, “Let’s make some more martyrs.”

 

Despite calling for violence explicitly, unbelievably, she is not being prosecuted.

 

 

https://whyy.org/articles/montgomery-county-ambler-official-resigns-charlie-kirk-facebook-comment/

 

10 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Good point, In fact President Trump found them to be so abhorrent the he pardoned the leader of the Proud Boys. Not just commuted his sentence but actually pardoned him. And other members of those organizations.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/oath-keepers-proud-boys-leaders-prison-after-trump/story?id=117940370

 

And? How long were they in jail, and for what? 

 

Is this where I’m supposed to bring up Biden pardoning a coo killer and thousands of othe criminals? 

 

I do not remember you getting all bent abot tgat, 

3 minutes ago, mogandave said:

And? How long were they in jail, and for what? 

 

Is this where I’m supposed to bring up Biden pardoning a coo killer and thousands of othe criminals? 

 

I do not remember you getting all bent abot tgat, 

You're the one who raised the issue of the Proud Boys. Not me. 

12 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

You're the one who raised the issue of the Proud Boys. Not me. 

 

No he didn't. It was jvs.

 

 

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

No he didn't. It was jvs.

 

 

OK. But he went on to make the point that they were punished for their crimes. I think that qualifies as an own goal.

The hostility and violence rhetoric seems to be ramping up on Youtube. 

 

Here is this dude who seems to be advocating for violence: "This means WAR. We are done being tolerant."

 

Not even sure how these videos are allowed on Youtube. 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I read it. It specifically ruled that on matters of public interest, there should be no restrictions on the right to free speech. 

 

That is absolutely correct, and neither the state or federal government have had this man or his wife arrested for his (or in this case his wifes) hate speech.   His free speech therefore is protected and he (or his wife) can continue to call whomever they like Nazis without fear of being arrested by the state.  This is of course completely separate from a private business who do not want this type of individual representing their company and are legally able to fire them for their publicly aired abhorrent views.   

Just now, James105 said:

 

That is absolutely correct, and neither the state or federal government have had this man or his wife arrested for his (or in this case his wifes) hate speech.   His free speech therefore is protected and he (or his wife) can continue to call whomever they like Nazis without fear of being arrested by the state.  This is of course completely separate from a private business who do not want this type of individual representing their company and are legally able to fire them for their publicly aired abhorrent views.   

The type of individual who has a wife that shoots off her mouth?

Just now, Alan Zweibel said:

The type of individual who has a wife that shoots off her mouth?

 

It's a dirty game this cancellation business, I agree.   It's a shame that one of the most vocal defenders of free speech who would have argued against this was shot in the neck recently and killed in front of his wife and 2 small children.   

 

Is this your first time complaining about people losing their jobs over things that they have said on social media?  It's been going on for years and I'm sure the right has been warning against this for quite some time on the basis that the winds might change one day.