2 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And given that your understanding is based on no evidence, I think it's safe to say that it's a delusion, at best.

Just like your OP, then, no evidence so, rationally, at best, it's also delusion.

2 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Did you miss the part about Holman accepting $50,000 in cash?

Did you miss the part about there being no evidence against him?

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

And given that your understanding is based on no evidence, I think it's safe to say that it's a delusion, at best

So he didn't accept 50000 us?

So there was evidence against him?...

"Justice Department officials ultimately decided that the evidence against Mr. Homan was insufficient to support charges of wire fraud, bribery or conspiracy".

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

To the title ... Czar ?

... doesn't sound like a Russian name to me 

Sounds like the title Harris got from Biden.

1 hour ago, bamnutsak said:

I can't tell if this idiot is drunk or mentally handicapped (both?).

 

And I cannot understand a word he says. He speaks like he has a mouth full of marbles.

Really?  Perhaps that says more about you than him?

22 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He's a "sleazeball"  because there's no evidence of his doing anything wrong?  Really?  He's  the sleazeball?

That's not what i said. 

I said he's a sleazeball, not a convicted criminal. That 'because' you made up. 

And 'no evidence of doing anything wrong ' is also not what was said. 

So, to summarise this story:

- someone told the FBI that giving money to him would secure future government contracts related to border security,

- an undercover agent gave him a bag of cash and he took it,

- but he cannot be prosecuted because there isn't enough evidence of what he would have done in exchange of the money!

 

Come on, he just thought: oh, someone is giving me a bag of cash! I cannot believe luck! Thank you! 🤣🤣🤣

6 minutes ago, stevenl said:

That's not what i said. 

I said he's a sleazeball, not a convicted criminal. That 'because' you made up. 

And 'no evidence of doing anything wrong ' is also not what was said. 

What is your claim that he is a sleezeball based on?

5 minutes ago, candide said:

So, to summarise this story:

- someone told the FBI that giving money to him would secure future government contracts related to border security,

- an undercover agent gave him a bag of cash and he took it,

- but he cannot be prosecuted because there isn't enough evidence of what he would have done in exchange of the money!

 

Come on, he just thought: oh, someone is giving me a bag of cash! I cannot believe luck! Thank you! 🤣🤣🤣

Yep, just the kind of guy the convicted criminal in the WH would turn to. 

4 minutes ago, candide said:

So, to summarise this story:

- someone told the FBI that giving money to him it will secure future government contracts related to border security,

- an undercover agent gave him a bag of cash and he took it,

- but he cannot be prosecuted because there isn't enough evidence of what he would have done in exchange of the money!

 

Come on, he just thought: oh, someone is giving me a bag of cash! I cannot believe luck! Thank you! 🤣🤣🤣

A bag of money, apparently disguised as a fast food delivery. 

 

And no mention of: 

What happened to the money?

 

What did Homan agree the money was for?

 

Why are we just hearing about it now?

 

Why did the Biden DOJ not charge him?

 

Do we think it is a coincidence that he was campaigning for Trump?

 

If he is guilty, I hope he is investigated and convicted. 

 

If he is NOT guilty, I hope the people smearing him are investigated and convicted. 

 

 

9 minutes ago, candide said:

So, to summarise this story:

- someone told the FBI that giving money to him would secure future government contracts related to border security,

- an undercover agent gave him a bag of cash and he took it,

- but he cannot be prosecuted because there isn't enough evidence of what he would have done in exchange of the money!

 

Come on, he just thought: oh, someone is giving me a bag of cash! I cannot believe luck! Thank you! 🤣🤣🤣

 

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What is your claim that he is a sleezeball based on?

See candide's post 

 

Plus isn't there an issue with a tax declaration of his regarding primary residence?

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

A bag of money, apparently disguised as a fast food delivery. 

Did he eat it? 🤣

4 minutes ago, candide said:

Did he eat it? 🤣

You can't answer, so you joke. Typical. 

 

 

13 minutes ago, stevenl said:

 

See candide's post 

So not on facts, thank you. 

Oh, that guy.  Had to G, and have seen some YT shorts with him.  Kind of like him, as he doesn't like illegal aliens either.  Great choice for the job, IMHO 👍

 

Nice resume and definitely qualified for the position.

 

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He's a "sleazeball"  because there's no evidence of his doing anything wrong?  Really?  He's  the sleazeball?

 

......because there's no evidence of his doing anything wrong?..........seriously.........you genuinely believe that?????

 

There is plenty of evidence, unless it's on Bondi's desk, plus CCTV footage, but being Trump's pick, the DOJ was told to close the investigation down.

 

Watch the news.

 

Homan wasn't even the original target, his name came up during another investigation as someone who was "touting for business" on the understanding he would soon be in the Trump's administration.

 

He took the money, as he wasn't a public servant at that point, he unfortunately couldn't be charged with fraud.

4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

......because there's no evidence of his doing anything wrong?..........seriously.........you genuinely believe that?????

 

There is plenty of evidence, unless it's on Bondi's desk, plus CCTV footage, but being Trump's pick, the DOJ was told to close the investigation down.

 

Watch the news.

 

Homan wasn't even the original target, his name came up during another investigation as someone who was "touting for business" on the understanding he would soon be in the Trump's administration.

 

He took the money, as he wasn't a public servant at that point, he unfortunately couldn't be charged with fraud.

This administration is full of criminals, either convicted like Trump, caught red handed like Homan and god knows who else, and the rest are criminally unqualified for their positions.

And the Biden DOJ never charged him, and it was kept secret until now. 

 

Do we all agree it was just a coincidence that he was campaigning for Trump at the time? 

 

Is the thinking that the Biden DOJ was trying to get someone else (that was campaigning for Trump) and they just happen on Homan soliciting bribes? 

 

And if he was not working at the time, what was he supposed to do for the money? 

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

And the Biden DOJ never charged him, and it was kept secret until now. 

 

Do we all agree it was just a coincidence that he was campaigning for Trump at the time? 

 

Is the thinking that the Biden DOJ was trying to get someone else (that was campaigning for Trump) and they just happen on Homan soliciting bribes? 

 

And if he was not working at the time, what was he supposed to do for the money? 

Combine these 2 sentences and that gives an interesting proposition.

 

"Do we all agree it was just a coincidence that he was campaigning for Trump at the time? "

"And if he was not working at the time, what was he supposed to do for the money? "

Wanted:  Corrupt, fascist, grifting, low IQ yes men, willing to be an unctuous groveling sycophant that would impress a North Korean dictator, woefully unqualified for any position with even a modicum of authority.....

 

The Trump Administration wants YOU!

 

Previous experience in any adult position not required.  Black marks on your resume are a plus. Our "DEI" policy means we'll gladly take drunks (Hegseth, Pirro), wife beaters (alleged Hegseth), misogynists (too many), heroin addicts (RFK, Jr), even reported former Neo Nazis (Sebastian Gorka). Your boss is a convicted felon and civilly convicted sex offender with increasing evidence of cognitive decline (stopping Rwanda genocide of 1994, discussions with uncle about Unabomber, claims of stopping the war between "Aberbaijidan" and Albania) (sic).

 

Play your crypto memes and other grifting opportunities right and your GS government salary is just beer money.

3 hours ago, candide said:

So, to summarise this story:

- someone told the FBI that giving money to him would secure future government contracts related to border security,

- an undercover agent gave him a bag of cash and he took it,

- but he cannot be prosecuted because there isn't enough evidence of what he would have done in exchange of the money!

 

Come on, he just thought: oh, someone is giving me a bag of cash! I cannot believe luck! Thank you! 🤣🤣🤣

Your knowledge of justice is best illustrated by the Dreyfus trial

23 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Combine these 2 sentences and that gives an interesting proposition.

 

"Do we all agree it was just a coincidence that he was campaigning for Trump at the time? "

"And if he was not working at the time, what was he supposed to do for the money? "

And what might that interesting proposition be?

1 hour ago, BLMFem said:

This administration is full of criminals, either convicted like Trump, caught red handed like Homan and god knows who else, and the rest are criminally unqualified for their positions.

Better Trump than Transtifa

Tom Homan is a man out for justice

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/11/tom_homan_is_a_man_out_for_justice.html

 

The United States is fortunate to have Tom Homan as the border czar protecting the sovereignty of the U.S. and deporting illegal aliens that enter the U.S.. Under old Biden, these illegal aliens were able to slip across the border and commit many crimes against the good citizens of the U.S. 

Tom homan. You mean the same guy who has worked for many presidents ? Including Obama and Biden.

 

That guy ?

One would simply hope that given his high profile position the facts would be laid bare. He either did it or didn't. It's kind of a big deal. 

2 minutes ago, blaze master said:

Tom homan. You mean the same guy who has worked for many presidents ? Including Obama and Biden.

 

That guy ?

The very same. 

 

 

1 minute ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

One would simply hope that given his high profile position the facts would be laid bare. He either did it or didn't. It's kind of a big deal. 

I agree 100%

 

 

@Yellowtail Accepting the money is one thing, but until he did the deed of getting them access to a government contract, the DoJ could do nothing. So they had to wait. Then the Trump admin came in and shut it down.

 

There's one thing supporting someone as they implement the policies that you like, but are you okay with them being criminals? 

It seems that the MAGA types overlook the whole criminality thing, as long as you are getting what you want. Heck the Ma Fia could be in charge of things as long as they kept other immigrants out. Have you no integrity at all? We know the MO is to blame Biden and the Left for everything. That is really bankrupt behaviour. That's not to state that everyone on the Left is honest. But how is the Right any better? Just disgusting criminals, liars and drunks. Is that it?

7 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@Yellowtail Accepting the money is one thing, but until he did the deed of getting them access to a government contract, the DoJ could do nothing. So they had to wait. Then the Trump admin came in and shut it down.

Did you read the entire article? 

 

"He also opened a consulting business that has worked for companies seeking immigration-related contracts, including those poised to benefit from Mr. Trump’s policies, The Times reported in January. At one point, he was paid between $100,000 and $150,000 to lobby in Texas for Fisher Industries, a construction firm that last year secured a $225 million contract with the state to build a section of border wall."

 

So, he had consulting business.  

 

7 minutes ago, JakeC said:

There's one thing supporting someone as they implement the policies that you like, but are you okay with them being criminals? 

If he is a criminal, I want to see him prosecuted. The article does not read to me like he is a criminal. But the headline is trying to make it look like he is. 

 

"Trump Justice Dept. Closed Investigation Into Tom Homan for Accepting Bag of Cash"

 

But notice the headline does not say "bribe", because the Times knows Homan would sue them, and likely win big. 

 

7 minutes ago, JakeC said:

It seems that the MAGA types overlook the whole criminality thing, as long as you are getting what you want. Heck the Ma Fia could be in charge of things as long as they kept other immigrants out.

Of course, MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA 

7 minutes ago, JakeC said:

Have you no integrity at all? We know the MO is to blame Biden and the Left for everything. That is really bankrupt behaviour. That's not to state that everyone on the Left is honest. But how is the Right any better? Just disgusting criminals, liars and drunks. Is that it?

You claim that I have no integrity, yet it is you that wants to see Homan's life ruined for having (apparently) done nothing illegal. 

 

He did not, and does not have any power to award contracts. Having a consulting business that accepts money to lobby the government is not illegal. One could argue it should but, but it is not. 

 

If he took the money, and did not report it, why was tax evasion not mentioned? 

 

If he took the money in his current position, I think it would be very different. 

 

I am very happy to discuss this further. Read the article and make a case.