1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

They see on the news that someone is demonstrating and join the frey.

They join the fray to stir up trouble.  They are a group of losers with nothing else to do in their sad lives. 

3 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I don't know, I'm going to go out on a limb here and posit the existence of something called the internet. They see on the news that someone is demonstrating and join the frey. I know. That is so farfetched.

 

They communicate over the internet to coordinate their violent, vicious destruction orgies.

 

Which means they are organised.

 

Which means they can be traced.

 

As we saw with that idiot Tylor Robinson, they don't have the sense to even use messaging services like Telegram who have servers in Dubai. No, he used Discord, lol. ANTIFA are stupid, careless and easy to find.

 

Let's find all ANTIFA and incarcerate them. Time to root out the far left scourge.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

They communicate over the internet to coordinate their violent, vicious destruction orgies.

 

Which means they are organised.

 

Which means they can be traced.

 

As we saw with that idiot Tylor Robinson, they don't have the sense to even use messaging services like Telegram who have servers in Dubai. No, he used Discord, lol. ANTIFA are stupid, careless and easy to find.

 

Let's find all ANTIFA and incarcerate them. Time to root out the far left scourge.

You keep on making assertions and you keep on not offering evidence. Frothing much?

Just now, Fact said:

Antifa acts like fascist thugs.   That's a fact. 

Lol! You are stuck with an oversimplistic and erroneous characterisation.

 

Stanley outlined ten core tactics used by fascist movements and leaders to gain and maintain power. How does it fit the Antifa movement?

 

1. The Mythic Past – Glorifying a fictional golden age to stoke nostalgia and resentment.
2. Propaganda – Manipulating language and media to create enemies and rewrite reality.
3. Anti-Intellectualism – Undermining education and expertise to control truth.
4. Unreality – Promoting conspiracy theories and lies to erode shared facts.
5. Hierarchy – Establishing rigid social rankings based on race, religion, or gender.
6. Victimhood – Convincing dominant groups they’re being oppressed by calls for equality.
7. Law and Order – Using fear of crime to justify crackdowns and authoritarian control.
8. Sexual Anxiety – Exploiting fears about gender roles and sexuality to rally support.
9. Slander of Opponents – Demonizing critics as traitors or threats to national survival.
10. Control of Elections – Undermining democratic processes to stay in power.

 

Jason Stanley, How Fascism Works, Random House, September 4, 2018.

Just now, candide said:

Lol! You are stuck with an oversimplistic and erroneous characterisation.

 

Stanley outlined ten core tactics used by fascist movements and leaders to gain and maintain power. How does it fit the Antifa movement?

 

1. The Mythic Past – Glorifying a fictional golden age to stoke nostalgia and resentment.
2. Propaganda – Manipulating language and media to create enemies and rewrite reality.
3. Anti-Intellectualism – Undermining education and expertise to control truth.
4. Unreality – Promoting conspiracy theories and lies to erode shared facts.
5. Hierarchy – Establishing rigid social rankings based on race, religion, or gender.
6. Victimhood – Convincing dominant groups they’re being oppressed by calls for equality.
7. Law and Order – Using fear of crime to justify crackdowns and authoritarian control.
8. Sexual Anxiety – Exploiting fears about gender roles and sexuality to rally support.
9. Slander of Opponents – Demonizing critics as traitors or threats to national survival.
10. Control of Elections – Undermining democratic processes to stay in power.

 

Jason Stanley, How Fascism Works, Random House, September 4, 2018.

Most of these listed items sound like the Democrats. 

1) Dems. 

2) Propaganda, the Democrats excel at using propaganda. 

3) Anti-Intellectualism, Democrats are anti-intellectual

4) Unreality - 100% dem trait.

5) Hierarchy - the Dems have the oppression hierarchy.

6) Victimhood - The Dems love the victim Olympics. 

7) Law and Order -  The Dems do hate law and order.  

8) Sexual Anxiety - #MeToo, belive all women.

9) Slander of Opponents, the dem do this all time. 

10) Control of Elections, Dems..

8 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

You keep on making assertions and you keep on not offering evidence. Frothing much?

Do they not communicate over the internet? 

2 minutes ago, Fact said:

Do they not communicate over the internet? 

As has been noted, they are people who subscribe to varying beliefs. There is no formal organization Anyone can declare themselves to be antifa. Since when does a smorgasbord of beliefs become a terrorist organization? There is no overarching organization.

4 minutes ago, Fact said:

Most of these listed items sound like the Democrats. 

1) Dems. 

2) Propaganda, the Democrats excel at using propaganda. 

3) Anti-Intellectualism, Democrats are anti-intellectual

4) Unreality - 100% dem trait.

5) Hierarchy - the Dems have the oppression hierarchy.

6) Victimhood - The Dems love the victim Olympics. 

7) Law and Order -  The Dems do hate law and order.  

8) Sexual Anxiety - #MeToo, belive all women.

9) Slander of Opponents, the dem do this all time. 

10) Control of Elections, Dems..

More lame trolling deflection from you. 🤣

 

How do the 10 tactics listed by Stanley correspond to Antifa tactics?

1 minute ago, candide said:

More lame trolling deflection from you. 🤣

 

How do the 10 tactics listed by Stanley correspond to Antifa tactics?

How do these apply to the people they attack?  

2 minutes ago, candide said:

Lol! You are stuck with an oversimplistic and erroneous characterisation.

 

Stanley outlined ten core tactics used by fascist movements and leaders to gain and maintain power. How does it fit the Antifa movement?

 

1. The Mythic Past – Glorifying a fictional golden age to stoke nostalgia and resentment.
2. Propaganda – Manipulating language and media to create enemies and rewrite reality.
3. Anti-Intellectualism – Undermining education and expertise to control truth.
4. Unreality – Promoting conspiracy theories and lies to erode shared facts.
5. Hierarchy – Establishing rigid social rankings based on race, religion, or gender.
6. Victimhood – Convincing dominant groups they’re being oppressed by calls for equality.
7. Law and Order – Using fear of crime to justify crackdowns and authoritarian control.
8. Sexual Anxiety – Exploiting fears about gender roles and sexuality to rally support.
9. Slander of Opponents – Demonizing critics as traitors or threats to national survival.
10. Control of Elections – Undermining democratic processes to stay in power.

 

Jason Stanley, How Fascism Works, Random House, September 4, 2018.

1. the left, the JFK, Clinton, Obama eras 

2. the left, stranglehold on legacy media 

3. the left, destroying education in the US  

4. the left, Russia Gate, J6 etc.

5 the left, DEI

6. the left, all non-white males are victims

7. the left, no-case bail and open borders 

8. the left, fabricating and promoting phony genders to foment sexual anxiety

9. the left, every opponent and their supporters are fascists 

10.the left, mail in ballots, no ID, ballot harvesting, suing to keep legitimate candidates off ballots

11. the left, use the DOJ to sue and prosecute your opponents 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, candide said:

More lame trolling deflection from you. 🤣

 

How do the 10 tactics listed by Stanley correspond to Antifa tactics?

Is ANTIFA showing up to each protest and running through this checklist? 

3 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

As has been noted, they are people who subscribe to varying beliefs. There is no formal organization Anyone can declare themselves to be antifa. Since when does a smorgasbord of beliefs become a terrorist organization? There is no overarching organization.

They do commit violence in the name of fighting fascism. 

5 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

As has been noted, they are people who subscribe to varying beliefs. There is no formal organization Anyone can declare themselves to be antifa. Since when does a smorgasbord of beliefs become a terrorist organization? There is no overarching organization.

Of that is true, then your hero George Soros should be applauding the investigation. I will remove any lingering suspicions that he supports political violence, yes? 

Just now, Fact said:

They do commit violence in the name of fighting fascism. 

Who is they? Members of an organization? In fact, I've tried and failed to find any estimates from law enforcelment of how many people there are who subscribe in some way to the smorgasbord of beliefs that constitute antifa. 

Just now, Alan Zweibel said:

Who is they? Members of an organization? In fact, I've tried and failed to find any estimates from law enforcelment of how many people there are who subscribe in some way to the smorgasbord of beliefs that constitute antifa. 

If they show up in force, they are organized. 

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Of that is true, then your hero George Soros should be applauding the investigation. I will remove any lingering suspicions that he supports political violence, yes? 

The left supports political violence when directed against opponents, which is why they often downplay events like the BLM riots.

5 minutes ago, Fact said:

If they show up in force, they are organized. 

Because it's unlikely that they see some event or hear of something about to happen and decide to go there? Because there is no such thing as the internet?

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Because it's unlikely that they see some event or hear of something about to happen and decide to go there? Because there is no such thing as the internet?

Then they organize. 

Just now, Fact said:

Then they organize. 

You are privy to the internal workings of this non-organization?

3 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

You are privy to the internal workings of this non-organization?

It's happenstance, huh?

48 minutes ago, Fact said:

In what manner?  

Abductions by nameless thugs.

22 minutes ago, Fact said:

How do these apply to the people they attack?  

Still deflecting. It's you who baselessly made the claim that Antifa was using fascist tactics, and as it obviously doesn't fit, you are trying every possible lame way to deflect! 🤣

25 minutes ago, Fact said:

Is ANTIFA showing up to each protest and running through this checklist? 

More deflection blah blah! 🤣

1 minute ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Abductions by nameless thugs.

Are law enforcement arrests not labeled as abductions?

Just now, candide said:

More deflection blah blah! 🤣

Did you read about the ANTIFA leader who was arrested for attacking two off-duty Marines?   Do you think he followed your checklist? 

Take and "NO ACTION." Americans demand "ACCOUNTABILITY!"

Just now, Fact said:

Did you read about the ANTIFA leader who was arrested for attacking two off-duty Marines?   Do you think he followed your checklist? 

Blah blah. It's you who baselessly claimed that Antifa was using fascist tactics, and you are unable to substantiate your ridiculous claim!

1 minute ago, candide said:

Blah blah. It's you who baselessly claimed that Antifa was using fascist tactics, and you are unable to substantiate your ridiculous claim!

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/23/893533916/i-am-antifa-one-activist-s-violent-death-became-a-symbol-for-the-right-and-left

 

'I Am Antifa': One Activist's Violent Death Became A Symbol For The Right And Left

 

How is this guy fighting fascism?  

3 minutes ago, candide said:

Blah blah. It's you who baselessly claimed that Antifa was using fascist tactics, and you are unable to substantiate your ridiculous claim!

OIC.  Fascists are now peaceful people who never use violence.  Got ya. 

4 minutes ago, Fact said:

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/23/893533916/i-am-antifa-one-activist-s-violent-death-became-a-symbol-for-the-right-and-left

 

'I Am Antifa': One Activist's Violent Death Became A Symbol For The Right And Left

 

How is this guy fighting fascism?  

More deflection