14 minutes ago, connda said:

If I get audited by TRD, they'll own me a bunch of Interest Income which was withheld from my bank.  That would be an "own goal" on their part.

 

but only if you ask for the withholding tax, and you can claim the withholding tax only three years back ...

may i ask how much was your withholding tax for 2024 ...

3 hours ago, Unamerican said:

Really? So how come almost none of them do so? 

if you have followed the negative income tax plan then you would understand that it called for all Thais above the age of 16 and expat tax resident whether they have any income or not, must register and file the tax form by 2027 after having free foreign income remittance for 2025 and 2026 but all that now is in limbo as far as I can see since the govt will be changing again soon.  if that program got off the line, it could capture the Thais since all Thais have an ID number.  They mentioned that once it did officially begin, there was a possibility mentioned that yearly renewal of visas for expats could be in need of proof that taxes due had been paid but again, that was not all totally clear as we got several articles, with strange wordings at times.  Anyway, just like the current political scene, all is as unclear as always.

14 minutes ago, Presnock said:

if you have followed the negative income tax plan then you would understand that it called for all Thais above the age of 16 and expat tax resident whether they have any income or not, must register and file the tax form by 2027 after having free foreign income remittance for 2025 and 2026 but all that now is in limbo as far as I can see since the govt will be changing again soon.  if that program got off the line, it could capture the Thais since all Thais have an ID number.  They mentioned that once it did officially begin, there was a possibility mentioned that yearly renewal of visas for expats could be in need of proof that taxes due had been paid but again, that was not all totally clear as we got several articles, with strange wordings at times.  Anyway, just like the current political scene, all is as unclear as always.

I just ignore it, it'll probably go away (or I'll be dead) before they come for me.

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I just ignore it, it'll probably go away (or I'll be dead) before they come for me.

Agreed. You would be my first port of call for an accountant. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.🙃🙃

Indirectly it has been abandon any new tax rule not relevant to expats just my 2 cent same when the old rule came out 180 days nonsense.🤣

11 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

Indirectly it has been abandon any new tax rule not relevant to expats just my 2 cent same when the old rule came out 180 days nonsense.🤣

I do agree, some posts are really nonsense ...

6 hours ago, Unamerican said:

What “changes” are these. And what is the significance of “publishing them”? 
What exactly do any actual, enforceable and current laws state, please? 

Either you are trolling or you haven't even been bothered to read the link from Sherrings that I posted a few posts above your first nonsense post......

 

If you really don't know anything about Thai tax regulations and have managed to blissfully ignore thousands of posts on the subject may I respectfully suggest that you start here -

The Sherrings link about the 2 changes made to the TRD interpretation of their regulations -

https://sherrings.com/foreign-source-income-personal-tax-thailand.html

 

and/or you could start with the Thai Revenue pages in English -

https://www.rd.go.th/english/37695.html#section1

18 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

I do agree, some posts are really nonsense ...

Many a true word was spoken in jest............

On 9/22/2025 at 7:10 AM, sanook 1 said:

Yes i understand,but do they actually enforce it? Is the 180 days  self reporting thing or how will they know?

Yes, they do.

17 hours ago, Presnock said:

if you have followed the negative income tax plan then you would understand that it called for all Thais above the age of 16 and expat tax resident whether they have any income or not, must register and file the tax form by 2027 after having free foreign income remittance for 2025 and 2026 but all that now is in limbo as far as I can see since the govt will be changing again soon.  if that program got off the line, it could capture the Thais since all Thais have an ID number.  They mentioned that once it did officially begin, there was a possibility mentioned that yearly renewal of visas for expats could be in need of proof that taxes due had been paid but again, that was not all totally clear as we got several articles, with strange wordings at times.  Anyway, just like the current political scene, all is as unclear as always.

"income or not, must register and file the tax form by 2027 after having free foreign income remittance for 2025 and 2026"?... Do you mean any incoming transfers in 2025/26 is not subject to tax?

14 hours ago, topt said:

Either you are trolling or you haven't even been bothered to read the link from Sherrings that I posted a few posts above your first nonsense post......

 

If you really don't know anything about Thai tax regulations and have managed to blissfully ignore thousands of posts on the subject may I respectfully suggest that you start here -

The Sherrings link about the 2 changes made to the TRD interpretation of their regulations -

https://sherrings.com/foreign-source-income-personal-tax-thailand.html

 

and/or you could start with the Thai Revenue pages in English -

https://www.rd.go.th/english/37695.html#section1

Im Less than 65 years old,no pension. So that gives me 150k+60+60=270 k tax excempt per year,correct or not?

9 hours ago, khunPer said:

Yes, they do.

Link to any post or report indicating a foreigner has been arrested/punished/chased/fined for not submitting a Thai tax return please.

44 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Link to any post or report indicating a foreigner has been arrested/punished/chased/fined for not submitting a Thai tax return please.

 

just for comparison: if you drive drunk and the police don’t check you or you don’t get caught, does that mean DUI is a good thing and not illegal at all ... ?

if foreigners in your home country don’t follow the tax laws, would that be completely fine with you ... ? 

 

i am aware that many foreigners also come to thailand because they feel they can do whatever they want here, following and respecting laws is more like optional ... 

 

1 hour ago, motdaeng said:

just for comparison: if you drive drunk and the police don’t check you or you don’t get caught, does that mean DUI is a good thing and not illegal at all ... ?

Unenforced law/rules are irrelevant and should not be followed.

 

1 hour ago, motdaeng said:

if foreigners in your home country don’t follow the tax laws, would that be completely fine with you ... ? 

If foreigners do not follow laws because the country nationals don't either, they are certainly not to be blamed.

The issue here is with the system not the people.

 

2 hours ago, sanook 1 said:

Do you mean any incoming transfers in 2025/26 is not subject to tax?

No that's not what he means. He was referring to the news about a proposed new amendment allowing tax free transfers from abroad for potentially 2 years or more due to reduced inward investment. This subject has gone very quiet and looks like it has not been followed through to a royal decree. 

Likewise the negative tax proposal - at the moment it is just that - a proposal. The poster joined the 2 distinctly different items together for some reason but did say that it "was in limbo".

2 hours ago, sanook 1 said:

Im Less than 65 years old,no pension. So that gives me 150k+60+60=270 k tax excempt per year,correct or not?

You have put 2 x 60k so I presume that means you are claiming for a wife?

Any 'savings' held pre 31/12/23 and transferred in after that are also not assessable - except there is no where to officially claim that on the form.......so if putting in a tax form probably best not to mention that........Likewise how you potentially account for any credits due from the application of a DTA.

Hence one of many reasons why so many people on here talk about not sticking their head over the parapet 

36 minutes ago, topt said:

You have put 2 x 60k so I presume that means you are claiming for a wife?

Any 'savings' held pre 31/12/23 and transferred in after that are also not assessable - except there is no where to officially claim that on the form.......so if putting in a tax form probably best not to mention that........Likewise how you potentially account for any credits due from the application of a DTA.

Hence one of many reasons why so many people on here talk about not sticking their head over the parapet 

Thank you for clarifying.

"Any 'savings' held pre 31/12/23 and transferred in after that are also not assessable", As a non native English il take that as savings acquired before 31/12/23 and transfered to thailand later are excempt from tax?

36 minutes ago, topt said:

You have put 2 x 60k so I presume that means you are claiming for a wife?

Any 'savings' held pre 31/12/23 and transferred in after that are also not assessable - except there is no where to officially claim that on the form.......so if putting in a tax form probably best not to mention that........Likewise how you potentially account for any credits due from the application of a DTA.

Hence one of many reasons why so many people on here talk about not sticking their head over the parapet 

Thank you for clarifying.

"Any 'savings' held pre 31/12/23 and transferred in after that are also not assessable", As a non native English il take that as savings acquired before 31/12/23 and transfered to thailand later are excempt from tax?

7 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Link to any post or report indicating a foreigner has been arrested/punished/chased/fined for not submitting a Thai tax return please.

You might risk a home visit from some kind tax department officers that wish to check your income and tax-status – the seems to do it by country, beginning with states where they have good sharing of income information in accordance with DTOs, like for example Denmark and Finland – several have already experienced that, including myself, but I lucily had everything in good order...😉

1 minute ago, khunPer said:

You might risk a home visit from some kind tax department officers that wish to check your income and tax-status – the seems to do it by country, beginning with states where they have good sharing of income information in accordance with DTOs, like for example Denmark and Finland – several have already experienced that, including myself, but I lucily had everything in good order...

You're comparing Thailand to Denmark and Finland... seriously?

7 minutes ago, Yumthai said:

You're comparing Thailand to Denmark and Finland... seriously?

You don't seems to understand, what I said. Thai tax office said to both other and me that they began with checking long-stayers from Denmark and Finland, because those countries are good at sharing income information – which is a basic part of a DTO – so the Thai tax officers already know what you earn from home and your wealth-status; makes it easier to check origin of funds you transfer into Thailand and if already taxed or not...

20 minutes ago, khunPer said:

You don't seems to understand, what I said. Thai tax office said to both other and me that they began with checking long-stayers from Denmark and Finland, because those countries are good at sharing income information – which is a basic part of a DTO – so the Thai tax officers already know what you earn from home and your wealth-status; makes it easier to check origin of funds you transfer into Thailand and if already taxed or not..

You're missing the point. Denmark and Finland are certainly efficient and notorious to enforce their laws, Thailand not.

55 minutes ago, khunPer said:

You might risk a home visit from some kind tax department officers that wish to check your income and tax-status – the seems to do it by country, beginning with states where they have good sharing of income information in accordance with DTOs, like for example Denmark and Finland – several have already experienced that, including myself, but I lucily had everything in good order...😉

What if you told them to go away?

What authority do they have if you're not working in Thailand?

 

Personally, I'd just tell them to take me to court.

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

What authority do they have if you're not working in Thailand?

The same as most tax authorities in most countries perhaps.....

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Personally, I'd just tell them to take me to court.

If you owe nothing then it wouldn't be an issue.........let me rephrase, shouldn't be an issue. But if so why not tell them that in the first place?

8 minutes ago, topt said:

The same as most tax authorities in most countries perhaps.....

If you owe nothing then it wouldn't be an issue.........let me rephrase, shouldn't be an issue. But if so why not tell them that in the first place?

I like to see if people can actually do their jobs.

Or if they're just threatening bullies.

I've always done this, and I've always won.

 

Never make a government officials job easy.

23 hours ago, BritManToo said:

What if you told them to go away?

What authority do they have if you're not working in Thailand?

 

Personally, I'd just tell them to take me to court.

I have no idea, but I rather cooperate and stay in Thailand than having problems with authorities and immigration...

23 hours ago, Yumthai said:

You're missing the point. Denmark and Finland are certainly efficient and notorious to enforce their laws, Thailand not.

Seems like you still misunderstand, it got nothing to do with what happens in Denmark and Finland. But Denmark and Finland gladly share tax information with Thailand – which is a basic part of a DTO – so the Thai tax-authorities easily can check if income tax is paid either in one's home country or in Thailand, and if untaxed funds are transferred into Thailand. Actually nothing new, the 180-days tax resident rule has been in use for years.

12 minutes ago, khunPer said:

Seems like you still misunderstand, it got nothing to do with what happens in Denmark and Finland. But Denmark and Finland gladly share tax information with Thailand – which is a basic part of a DTO – so the Thai tax-authorities easily can check if income tax is paid either in one's home country or in Thailand, and if untaxed funds are transferred into Thailand. Actually nothing new, the 180-days tax resident rule has been in use for years.

Please correct me if I am wrong but from previous threads I understood that for certain Scandinavian countries and individuals it is actually beneficial to pay tax in Thailand at a reduced rate to that of their home country?

Perhaps that has something to do with it as the home country is sending info to make sure the tax is actually being paid.......

2 minutes ago, topt said:

Please correct me if I am wrong but from previous threads I understood that for certain Scandinavian countries and individuals it is actually beneficial to pay tax in Thailand at a reduced rate to that of their home country?

Perhaps that has something to do with it as the home country is sending info to make sure the tax is actually being paid.......

Yes. However, it's not always that simple. I would love to pay Thai income tax with 5%-30% tax of income over 310,000 baht (500,000 baht of retired) and a 35% maximum of income over 5 million baht, instead of 38% tax of income higher than equivalent to 250,000 baht; and 53% of income over equivalent to 3 million baht; not to forget the 58% maximum top-tax, if you have high enough income to be eligible among the elite...

 

However, retirement pensions – both governmental and private – and a number of other domestic income, are still fully taxable in the home country. In a way fair enough, as governmental pensions – which can also be for other reasons than retirement and thereby eligible from an early age – are paid by the state, and private pension have been tax deducted when paying in; so, the latter is just a tax deferral. Such already taxed income will not be double taxed in Thailand if covered by a DTO.

 

However, some income are not taxed at home. For Denmark – which is my home country – interest, including bond-interests, capital gains and certain fees, like being a bord member in a company or having immaterial rights income from patents or music. This kind of income is instead taxable in Thailand, if its transferred to Thailand.

 

A benefit can be to let all unnecessary untaxed income stay invested in you home country or other legal untaxed possibility. Thereby you only transfer already documented taxed income and strictly needed extra untaxed income into Thailand; in that way you have a legally planned tax benefit.

Furthermore, the can be benefits on withheld dividend tax – in Denmark 27% – where tax credit can be claimed, either when one is tax resident in a country outside the European economic zone to instead 15% dividend tax, or when tax resident in Thailand to Thai-10% dividend tax. You need in both cases to prove that you are tax resident in Thailand; meaning file you annual tax return and furthermore obtain certificated proof each year for both being tax resident and having paid Thai income tax, the latter can luckily be 0 (zero) baht, if your in your home country untaxed transferred funds are below the Thai income tax limit, which can be as high as 500,000 baht.

So, in fact you can taxfree transfer all already taxed income and deduct the Thai-income tax in accordance with the DTO between you home country and Thailand, and on top transfer equivalent to 500,000 baht taxfree...

On 9/27/2025 at 3:12 PM, BritManToo said:

Personally, I'd just tell them to take me to court.

 

And when they respond by clamping you in irons and carting you off to solitary confinement in the Bangkok Hilton........?