2 minutes ago, transam said:

many a nutter has tried selling their nonsense magazine on a Sunday morning.

Watchtower is free isn't it ???

5 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I could understand that you and your friends are not happy with this post.

I don't agree in many ways with Hassan. But it's worth to follow him.

However, he has NOTHING to do the Big Pharma. And he's not bought.

And he's not telling lies but you.

Sorry, that I see you confused agitating.

Read again > My post was about CNN not being a trustworthy source, it was not about Hassan.  

4 minutes ago, johng said:

Watchtower is free isn't it ???

Free or not, these fruitcakes are trying to sell their 'thing'........🤕

8 hours ago, TonmaiYai said:

 

Utter rubbish. Many vaccines are full of toxins and that's going to stop. Mercury just doesn't disappear.

 

Why do mfgs need procecution immunity? 

 

The mRNA vaccines are not recommended for anyone now truth is out 🙏🙏

 

Shocking post

 

 

 

The claim that mRNA vaccines are not recommended for anyone is false and has been spread through misinformation. Leading health authorities, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO), continue to recommend mRNA vaccines for specific populations, particularly for protection against severe disease, hospitalization, and death from COVID-19. 

1 hour ago, Purdey said:

Quite right, there are different types of science. Best to look at the science published by the scientists who did the scientific research. Don't listen to scientists who are in a completely different field of science, like medical general practitioner (MD) commenting on the work of a scientist who is an expert in the field.

Independent vaccine research paper ------or------- advertisement for vaccine

 

One issue related to the Covid studies is that they're largely math and statistics problems now as opposed to "Medical" studies.  There are already reams and reams of data scattered across dozens (hundreds?) of databases.  Data like "what happened when we put patients on ventilators?"  Or how many excess deaths did we really have?

 

The "Japanese Study" of 18 million data points (or is it 14 million?  doesn't matter) is an example.  Regardless of why it happened, or whether it's caused by the mRNAs, there was a spike in extra fatalities in the months after vaccination.  That part is a pure math and statistics problem that I wouldn't trust to an MD.  That one needs a PhD in math and stats, not a doctor of medicine. 

 

Then, some medical wonks need to take that data and 'splain the causes. Not claim that it's untrue.

 

It's the same with autism in the USA.  There has been a huge increase in the prevalence of autism.  Those numbers don't lie.  Big Pharma keeps explaining why it isn't their fault.  Maybe it's not.  But something's causing it.  And I'm glad we finally have someone that acknowledges it and looks for the causes instead of sweeping it under the rug.

 

 

15 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Read again > My post was about CNN not being a trustworthy source, it was not about Hassan.  

Are you joking 🤣🤣🤣?.

It was NOT about CNN. Not with 1 sentence. Just see your headline .

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Are you joking 🤣🤣🤣?.

It was NOT about CNN. Not with 1 sentence. Just see your headline .

 

Here my post: 

9 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

To use your - ad nauseam repeated words - CNN is not a 'trustworthy source'.

It's a bought and paid Pharma-shill. 

And it's no surprise that the reach of all of these lie-repeaters is ever decreasing.

Next...

Just now, Red Phoenix said:

 

Here my post: 

Sorry, do you really know what are you saying?. It was not about a TV channel or News Channel but about "Anti vaxxers...". It's your own choose to share it with us PLUS your WRONG interpretation and comment.

Btw I still waiting for an answer to my question about "Doctor Visit".

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Sorry, do you really know what are you saying?. It was not about a TV channel or News Channel but about "Anti vaxxers...". It's your own choose to share it with us PLUS your WRONG interpretation and comment.

Btw I still waiting for an answer to my question about "Doctor Visit".

I repeat > CNN is not a trustworthy source.  Period.   

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Wonder if they ever studied Nature, or common sense?!

Scientists can say 

Polio. Vaccine. No more polio.

Has your nature theory got something similar.

A story you can point to where your nature theory led you to some significant discovery or outcome.

 

1 minute ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Scientists can say 

Polio. Vaccine. No more polio.

Has your nature theory got something similar.

A story you can point to where your nature theory led you to some significant discovery or outcome.

 

I'll point to the one you highlighted. Polio.

 

Polio is a condition brought upon by toxicity damaging specific parts of the human body. Once DDT was stopped, the incidence of polio plummeted. Then there was the moving of the infection bar. Fully covered in another topic on AN.

 

https://www.dissolvingillusions.com

 

The vaxx was a giant fraud. There was/is no polio virus.

46 minutes ago, impulse said:

It's the same with autism in the USA.  There has been a huge increase in the prevalence of autism.  Those numbers don't lie.  Big Pharma keeps explaining why it isn't their fault.  Maybe it's not.  But something's causing it.  And I'm glad we finally have someone that acknowledges it and looks for the causes instead of sweeping it under the rug.

I'd like to point you to a book Sir.

 

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8309196-the-age-of-autism

 

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I'll point to the one you highlighted. Polio.

 

Polio is a condition brought upon by toxicity damaging specific parts of the human body. Once DDT was stopped, the incidence of polio plummeted. Then there was the moving of the infection bar. Fully covered in another topic on AN.

 

https://www.dissolvingillusions.com

 

The vaxx was a giant fraud. There was/is no polio virus.

I saw Cyd Charise in something and I looked her up and read of her youth with polio in the 20's and 30's .. when you read those stories it brings the tragedy of it and the wonder of the vaccine. The issue is your confidence - can you show DDT was in the specific areas - I imagine DDT was mainly in the country.. you could say - I have concerns about aspects of medicine but until I have a valid and reasonably strong counter argument I'll wait .. and not act like I actually know it to be correct. Having said that I suppose this is the place to discuss ideas. 

6 hours ago, impulse said:

Did anyone catch the recent Google admission that they did, in fact, censor conservatives and anyone who questioned the "safe and effective" narrative?

 I think I mentioned it here but might have got away with it by 

involving Alex Jones 😋

 

6 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

I saw Cyd Charise in something and I looked her up and read of her youth with polio in the 20's and 30's .. when you read those stories it brings the tragedy of it and the wonder of the vaccine. The issue is your confidence - can you show DDT was in the specific areas - I imagine DDT was mainly in the country.. you could say - I have concerns about aspects of medicine but until I have a valid and reasonably strong counter argument I'll wait .. and not act like I actually know it to be correct. Having said that I suppose this is the place to discuss ideas. 

Samantha ???? also. She threw has leg-irons into the Thames. Can't think of her name now. And I refuse to use Google for anything. She was an actress, singer and page three girl. 

 

You are right to have doubts. Nowt wrong with that Sir. However, the onus is on those making the claim that a virus causes polio also. Can't find any experiment, and associated paper, that shows the polio virus actually exists.

 

 

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Samantha ???? also. She threw has leg-irons into the Thames. Can't think of her name now. And I refuse to use Google for anything. She was an actress, singer and page three girl. 

 

You are right to have doubts. Nowt wrong with that Sir. However, the onus is on those making the claim that a virus causes polio also. Can't find any experiment, and associated paper, that shows the polio virus actually exists.

 

Samantha Fox. Just came into me head.

10 minutes ago, johng said:

 I think I mentioned it here but might have got away with it by 

involving Alex Jones 😋

 

 

Here's the letter Alphabet's attorneys sent to Congress:

 

2025-09-23-letter-to-hjc.pdf

 

https://judiciary.house.gov/

 

If the links don't work (likely), Google the document name.  2025-09-23-letter-to-hjc.pdf

 

What they fail to mention is that there is still a lot of censorship going on.  Some by lefty employees.  Some by the company itself.  And Google search results are still very skewed when you compare them with identical search terms on other search engines.

1 hour ago, connda said:

I wonder how many of those who refused to allow family members to attend holiday get-togethers unless they were current on all of their shots, the agreed to wear a mask, and agreed to maintain "proper social distance - are still engaging in the cult-like behavior in 2025?  o normal

Dr D Cahill reckons that anyone having a 'hot' (as opposed to inert) will suffer bad effects withing 5 years.

 

www.HowBadIsMyBatch.com

 

The truth of the matter is that any jab is seen as poison to the body. It has mechanisms to protect itself, and usually gets the body back normal. BUT!!! if the body is already compromised, and/or there is too much toxicity, and the body cannot expel the undesirables, it tuckes them away.

 

So anyone who had a jab, cannot be sure that they are completely out of the woods.

 

 

17 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Samantha Fox. Just came into me head.

I think she had  'air bags'  not leg irons  😋

19 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Here's the letter Alphabet's attorneys sent to Congress:

 

2025-09-23-letter-to-hjc.pdf

 

https://judiciary.house.gov/

 

If the links don't work (likely), Google the document name.  2025-09-23-letter-to-hjc.pdf

 

https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2025-09-23-letter-to-hjc.pdf

58 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

I repeat > CNN is not a trustworthy source.  Period.   

Well, this is now the 2. time within a few days that you show your personal limits. You can't answer questions or give "derailed" answers. Or No answers.

That's ok. 

Last remark: if CNN is not trustworthy....why you do not open a thread with a concerning headline: I found out, CNN is not trustworthy. But YOU start with something about "vaccination ".

You are very strange. At least.

Anti vacs or red mad bird that rises from the ashes I don't care about. I wish they also don't care about me and stop polluting this forum.

On 9/25/2025 at 6:13 PM, newbee2022 said:

...

Last remark: if CNN is not trustworthy....why you do not open a thread with a concerning headline: I found out, CNN is not trustworthy. But YOU start with something about "vaccination ".

You are very strange. At least.

 

You seem to think that because I start the large majority of threads on this sub-forum, that that is also the case for this one.  

But it was not me but our 'friend' that actually started this thread  

Anti-vaxxers behave the same as cults to attract followers

Please back off now. 

Note: And it's my firm opinion that CNN is not trustworthy, but of course they are not alone as that goes for the large majority of the mainstream media.  

 

3 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Anti vacs or red mad bird that rises from the ashes I don't care about. I wish they also don't care about me and stop polluting this forum.

Are you a narcissist?  

10 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Are you a narcissist?  

No, but realist

WOW!  Now that all the ardent anti-vaxers are up and around for the day, all their insight is coming to the fore!

 

Per the OP report:

Withholding vital information

...

Distorting information

...

Outright lying

"Anti-vaccination social media campaigns spew outright lies to sow doubt and confusion about the vaccination process. ... When people are not properly informed, deciding whether or not to get vaccinated can be a scary decision. People are constantly exposed to lies about the vaccines online, including false claims that they alter DNA or lead to infertility. Of course, we know that billions of doses have been administered worldwide. That is a huge sample size, and the absence of any widespread serious side effects speaks to the vaccine’s safety." [emphasis added]

 

CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/29/perspectives/covid-19-vaccine-anti-vaxxers-social-media-cults

 

Right now, since some time has passed since this original report, the actual number of total COVID vaccine doses given in the world is something around 14 BILLION!

 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-covid-vaccinations?country=~OWID_WRL

 

 

Surely, if I were to believe half of what the various anti-vaxers here are claiming, we must all be dead by now... But, seems not. Life goes on, for the fortunate ones who didn't succumb to COVID, thanks in part to COVID vaccines.

 

"They determined the number of lives lost if there had been no vaccines. Based on reported COVID‐19 deaths, vaccinations prevented an estimated 14.4 million deaths (95% credible interval [Crl] 13.7–15.9) from COVID‐19 in a year. However, if excess deaths were used, this estimate rose to 19.8 million (95% Crl 19.1–20.4) deaths prevented (Fig. 1), equating to a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19.8 million of 31.4 million) during the first year of COVID‐19 vaccination.

...

COVID‐19 vaccination altered the pandemic course, saving tens of millions of lives globally."

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9537923/

 

 

So these charts are all fabricated BS ??? 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/deaths-caused-by-vaccine-preventable-diseases-over-time

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(15)00072-9/fulltext

 

_{Anti-vaxxing: a privilege of the fortunate}

 

Anti-vaccine resentment has been around as long as vaccines themselves because there is no shortage of reasons to justify opposition to medicine. In remote regions of Africa, including areas where measles is still a problem of public health importance, I have witnessed vaccine hesitancy on the grounds of religion or culture. Rejection of vaccination in poor communities can sometimes be indicative of a feeling of neglect or a deep mistrust of the authorities whose priorities are perceived as misplaced.

 

However, despite these circumstances, a lack of vaccines is a greater problem for people in developing countries in Africa. Measles alone still causes an estimated 74 000 deaths every year in Africa,1 mainly because vaccines are not available in poorly equipped, understaffed, and sometimes inaccessible health facilities, or because families do not know when or why they should bring children for immunisation. 

 

 

Doesn't take much to remember back to 2020 and 2021... including before COVID vaccines began rolling out at the start of 2021:

 

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-deaths-funeral-homes-overwhelmed/

 

 

Funeral homes, morgues grapple with surge in US Covid-19 deaths

 

December 15, 2020

 

...

"As Covid-19 has spread from big cities to rural communities, it has stressed not only hospitals, but also what some euphemistically call “last responders.” The crush has overwhelmed morgues, funeral homes and religious leaders, required ingenuity and even changed the rituals of honoring the dead.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/15/health/funeral-homes-morgues-covid-deaths-wellness-partner

 

 

 

Updated 7 Apr 2021

 

https://widerimage.reuters.com/story/i-just-ask-god-to-help-me-texas-funeral-home-crushed-by-death-as-us-covid-toll-nears-500000

 

 

 

I'm reading up a bit on this stuff ...

 

Measles can cause permanent brain damage !

 

 

https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/top-ten-anti-vaccine-myths-debunked-again

 

The Toxin Fallacy: Understanding Vaccine Ingredients

Fears about formaldehyde or aluminum in vaccines ignore dose context. A pear contains 13 times more formaldehyde than any vaccine, while breastfed infants consume about 100 times more milligrams of aluminum daily compared to 0.125 milligrams in vaccines. These ingredients in vaccines serve crucial roles – aluminum salts enhance immune response, while trace preservatives prevent bacterial contamination.