Hooray for FREEDOM! Doxx every last one of the stormtroopers.

 

Beat police wear name tags and badges. They face everything from bank robbers to gang members to international drug gangs to lunatics with a gun. If they can do it, so can Trump's fascist stormtroopers.

 

Here's a scenario even a truck driver might be able to understand.....

 

An unmarked, windowless van pulls up near you. Five guys wearing face masks jump out. They have no name tags, no badges. They do not identify themselves. They grab you and throw you into the van.

 

That scenario is neither Moscow, nor a hypothetical. It is happening today in many US cities.

 

When I am home, I avail myself of my Second Amendment right, and I have a concealed carry permit. If such a thing happened to me, I would assume I'm dead anyway, so my Sig P229 has 15 rounds, including one in the chamber. I was well trained in firearm use when I served, and also know how I react when faced with a threat. I'll double tap as many of those face masks as I can before they shoot me. Let their kids grow up without a fascist daddy. I'm no Rambo (none exist), but if I'm going down, I'm taking as many of those fascist scum with me as my skill and time allows. Let "Two Corinthians" sort'em out.

 

THAT ^ is how a real American behaves...ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. You fat old never-served MAGAs have no clue, because not a one of you has a friggin clue what America means.

1 hour ago, mogandave said:

Wanting a secure border and not wanting men in girls’ showers/sports makes one a fascist? 

 

No but overt nationalism, an “infallible” leader who never admits mistakes, gaining political power by questioning reality, endorsing myth and rage, and promoting lies, fixating on a perceived national decline, a disdain for human rights, the identification of “enemies”/scapegoats as a unifying cause, the supremacy of the military and the embrace of paramilitarism, rampant sexism, trying to control the mass media and undermining “truth”, an obsession with national security, crime and punishment, and fostering a sense of a nation under attack, trying to get religion and government intertwined, opposing any initiatives or institutions that are racially, ethnically, or religiously harmonious, protecting corporate power over the power of the workers, a disdain for intellectuals and the arts, rampant cronyism and corruption and thinking only loyalty to the leader is paramount (over competence in the job) certainly are.

 

These are parts of the 14 characteristics of fascism as outlined by Umberto Eco in his 1995 book Ur-Fascism and I think that only the most fervent of Trumps acolytes would try and deny this is exactly what is going on today in Trumps America. 

 

https://www.openculture.com/2024/11/umberto-ecos-list-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html

 

21 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I'd agree.  Both side have their crazies and they all need to be stopped. 

 

But what's not acceptable is that you were over 200x as likely to get thrown in prison for protesting on Jan6 than you were if you burned or looted or assaulted cops during the BLM Summer of Love.

 

 

That is completely untrue. By the end of June 2020, at least 14,000 people had been arrested due to the 'BLM Summer of Love' with over 300 convictions and 70 defendants getting an average of about 27 months behind bars. At least 10 received prison terms of five years or more, ranging from looting to arson to assault.   https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8

 

The difference of course being that none of these were pardoned by Biden

1 hour ago, Wingate said:

Hooray for FREEDOM! Doxx every last one of the stormtroopers.

 

Beat police wear name tags and badges. They face everything from bank robbers to gang members to international drug gangs to lunatics with a gun. If they can do it, so can Trump's fascist stormtroopers.

 

Here's a scenario even a truck driver might be able to understand.....

 

An unmarked, windowless van pulls up near you. Five guys wearing face masks jump out. They have no name tags, no badges. They do not identify themselves. They grab you and throw you into the van.

 

That scenario is neither Moscow, nor a hypothetical. It is happening today in many US cities.

 

When I am home, I avail myself of my Second Amendment right, and I have a concealed carry permit. If such a thing happened to me, I would assume I'm dead anyway, so my Sig P229 has 15 rounds, including one in the chamber. I was well trained in firearm use when I served, and also know how I react when faced with a threat. I'll double tap as many of those face masks as I can before they shoot me. Let their kids grow up without a fascist daddy. I'm no Rambo (none exist), but if I'm going down, I'm taking as many of those fascist scum with me as my skill and time allows. Let "Two Corinthians" sort'em out.

 

THAT ^ is how a real American behaves...ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. You fat old never-served MAGAs have no clue, because not a one of you has a friggin clue what America means.

You’re funny.

 

If I were an illegal alien with an “Order of Removal” issued against me and a van pulled up and and guys jumped out and grabbed me, I would assume I was being removed. 

 

 

17 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

That is completely untrue. By the end of June 2020, at least 14,000 people had been arrested due to the 'BLM Summer of Love' with over 300 convictions and 70 defendants getting an average of about 27 months behind bars. At least 10 received prison terms of five years or more, ranging from looting to arson to assault.   https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8

 

The difference of course being that none of these were pardoned by Biden

 

It was over 16000 arrests and 77 went to prison.  That's a one in 207 chance of going to prison.

 

Do the math on Jan6.  How many Jan6ers were arrested and how many were sentenced to prison?

 

Or do the math on the basis of per injured cop.

 

You can't do the math on the basis of buildings or cop cars burned up, because there were none on Jan6.

 

A couple of months ago, I did that math and posted it, along with the sources of the numbers.  I think the numbers ranged from 75x to 250x as likely to go to jail for Jan6 as for burning and looting for the BLM.  I couldn't be arsed to do it again.  I'll let you do it this time.

Good girls, make the lives of these bottom feeders miserable...

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

It was over 16000 arrests and 77 went to prison.  That's a one in 207 chance of going to prison.

 

Do the math on Jan6.  How many Jan6ers were arrested and how many were sentenced to prison?

 

Or do the math on the basis of per injured cop.

 

You can't do the math on the basis of buildings or cop cars burned up, because there were none on Jan6.

'Of the more than 1,265 individuals charged since Jan. 6, 2021, department prosecutors secured more than 718 guilty pleas -- including 213 who pleaded to felonies that include assaults on federal officers, obstructing law enforcement and seditious conspiracy. Of the approximately 277 rioters sentenced to prison for January 6 crimes, the median sentence was 60 days; those who had committed crimes of violence generally received longer incarceration (up to 22 years for Enrique Tarrio, leader of The Proud Boys). Other punishments include home detention, fines, probation, and community service.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_proceedings_in_the_January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#:~:text=A year after the attack,%2C probation%2C and community service.

 

So those that committed violence at the BLM riots got sentenced and rightly remain in prison for their crimes, but despite JD Vance saying '“If you committed violence on that day (Jan 6th), obviously you should not be pardoned,”  Trump pardoned the lot. Party of law and order my ar$e.

 

 

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

It was over 16000 arrests and 77 went to prison.  That's a one in 207 chance of going to prison.

 

Do the math on Jan6.  How many Jan6ers were arrested and how many were sentenced to prison?

 

Or do the math on the basis of per injured cop.

 

You can't do the math on the basis of buildings or cop cars burned up, because there were none on Jan6.

So over 16,000 arrests for left-wing violence, and we are to believe that there is more violence on the right.

 

And it’s a one in 207 chance of going to prison if you were arrested. Not a 1 in 207 chance of going to prison if you committed violence. 

 

About 1,580  arrests for j6, and about 1,270

convictions. So that’s like an 80% chance of going to jail if arrested for J6, as opposed to one half of one percent chance of of going to jail when arrested for left-wing  violence. 

 

 

 

Nothing to see here

12 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Of the more than 1,265 individuals charged since Jan. 6, 2021, department prosecutors secured more than 718 guilty pleas -- including 213 who pleaded to felonies that include assaults on federal officers, obstructing law enforcement and seditious conspiracy.

 

That's another one of those lefty whoppers.  They pleaded guilty, so they must have been guilty.  In reality, they were given a choice of pleading guilty and going to prison for a year or so, or taking their chances with a kangaroo court and we'll send you up for 20 years. 

 

That's also how they got a lot of Trump supporters to roll over on him.  Plead guilty and say bad things, and we'll go light on you.  Stand by him and you'll go down for decades.  Hell.  I'd lie under those terms and throw my mother under the bus, knowing she'd be exonerated anyway.

 

20 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

So those that committed violence at the BLM riots got sentenced and rightly remain in prison for their crimes, but despite JD Vance saying '“If you committed violence on that day (Jan 6th), obviously you should not be pardoned,”  Trump pardoned the lot. Party of law and order my ar$e.

 

That's been one of the idiosyncrasies of the US justice system for centuries, long before Trump.  When the process to convict them has been proven tainted, they get to go free, no matter how guilty they may.  That's happened thousands of times.

 

If the Biden DOJ hadn't crapped all over their rights for political ends, the truly violent ones would still be in prison where they should be.

 

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

That's another one of those lefty whoppers.  They pleaded guilty, so they must have been guilty.  In reality, they were given a choice of pleading guilty and going to prison for a year or so, or taking their chances with a kangaroo court and we'll send you up for 20 years. 

 

That's also how they got a lot of Trump supporters to roll over on him.  Plead guilty and say bad things, and we'll go light on you.  Stand by him and you'll go down for decades.  Hell.  I'd lie under those terms and throw my mother under the bus, knowing she'd be exonerated anyway.

 

Yeah they were all such innocent people, just gathering to express their right to free speech and peaceful protest.

 

'At least 10 January 6th insurrectionists pardoned by President Trump have already been rearrested, charged or sentenced for other crimes. The crimes include plotting murder of FBI agents, child sexual assault, possession of child sexual abuse material and reckless homicide while driving drunk—underscoring the public safety threats posed by the pardoned insurrectionists." These include:-

 

1. Andrew Taake: Arrested on previous charges of soliciting a minor. 

2. Edward Kelley: Been convicted on charges of plotting to murder the FBI agents who investigated him in the January 6th case. 

3. Emily Hernandez: she was sentenced to 10 years in prison for causing a drunk driving accident in 2022 that killed one person and injured another. 

4. Daniel Ball: Arrested days after Trump’s pardon for illegal gun possession given his felony record of domestic violence and strangulation. 

5. David Daniel: remains in custody after Trump’s pardon on possession of child sexual abuse material charges brought in 2024. 

6. Shane Jason Woods: convicted in April for multiple counts including reckless homicide and driving under the influence in 2022. 

7. Theodore Middendorf: Sentenced in 2024 to 19 years in prison for sexually assaulting a seven year old and remains in prison.

8. Taylor Taranto: arrested in 2023 for illegal gun possession and making a threat to blow up the National Institute of Standards and Technology, and was convicted in May. 

9. Brent John Holdridge: arrested in May for stealing tens of thousands of dollars worth of industrial copper wire and faces charges of burglary, grand theft and possession of stolen property.

10. Zachary Alam: rearrested in May for an alleged home invasion and theft. 

 

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/at-least-10-pardoned-insurrectionists-face-other-criminal-charges/

 

 

9 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Yeah they were all such innocent people, just gathering to express their right to free speech and peaceful protest.

 

Once again, if the Biden DOJ hadn't trampled on their rights for political ends, Trump wouldn't have had to (or even dared to) pardon them.  And the genuinely violent ones would still be in prison where they belong.

 

 Doxxer's attempts at doxxing, Sounds like domestic terrorism , Intimidation !

 

US Atty in California: "This is about intimidation and harassment because they can't get their way. They tried to sue us, and it got lost in the courts. They can't get Congress to change the laws".

7 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Yeah they were all such innocent people, just gathering to express their right to free speech and peaceful protest.

 

'At least 10 January 6th insurrectionists pardoned by President Trump have already been rearrested, charged or sentenced for other crimes. The crimes include plotting murder of FBI agents, child sexual assault, possession of child sexual abuse material and reckless homicide while driving drunk—underscoring the public safety threats posed by the pardoned insurrectionists." These include:-

 

1. Andrew Taake: Arrested on previous charges of soliciting a minor. 

2. Edward Kelley: Been convicted on charges of plotting to murder the FBI agents who investigated him in the January 6th case. 

3. Emily Hernandez: she was sentenced to 10 years in prison for causing a drunk driving accident in 2022 that killed one person and injured another. 

4. Daniel Ball: Arrested days after Trump’s pardon for illegal gun possession given his felony record of domestic violence and strangulation. 

5. David Daniel: remains in custody after Trump’s pardon on possession of child sexual abuse material charges brought in 2024. 

6. Shane Jason Woods: convicted in April for multiple counts including reckless homicide and driving under the influence in 2022. 

7. Theodore Middendorf: Sentenced in 2024 to 19 years in prison for sexually assaulting a seven year old and remains in prison.

8. Taylor Taranto: arrested in 2023 for illegal gun possession and making a threat to blow up the National Institute of Standards and Technology, and was convicted in May. 

9. Brent John Holdridge: arrested in May for stealing tens of thousands of dollars worth of industrial copper wire and faces charges of burglary, grand theft and possession of stolen property.

10. Zachary Alam: rearrested in May for an alleged home invasion and theft. 

 

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/at-least-10-pardoned-insurrectionists-face-other-criminal-charges/

 

 

How many of the BLM rioters has been arrested against since they were released? 

On 9/28/2025 at 11:04 AM, novacova said:

You are a very sick weak minded individual. Lemme guess, roolsland jt on one of your throw aways?

At least he's not a MAGA supporter

11 hours ago, mogandave said:

How many of the BLM rioters has been arrested against since they were released? 

You keep on insisting that BLM rioters are the same as BLM protestors when that blatantly isn't true. The VAST majority of those arrested during the BLM protests were looters and hooligans that came out at night to reek havoc, steal and vandalise. They are NOT the same people as those that were peacefully protesting during the day as an estimated 15 to 26 million people participated in Black Lives Matter protests in the United States, making it one of the largest protest movements in the country's history.  

 

'The BLM marchers were protesting racial injustice and police brutality, which had been seen in several cases in recent years and culminated in the George Floyd case. It was not the marchers who were breaking into stores and lighting fires, but angry interlopers who took advantage of the situation to do their deeds. And, for sure, the worst crimes — destroying government property, vandalism, looting, resisting arrest, etc. — deserved punishment.'   https://kevscohall.medium.com/the-truth-about-blm-riot-arrests-b5d25015db

 

Yet there were arrests of peaceful protestors mostly for illegal assembly charges and being out after curfew. These are misdemeanor charges that yielded mostly fines, community service and short prison terms however 'despite data indicating that demonstrations associated with the BLM movement are overwhelmingly peaceful, one recent poll suggested that 42% of respondents believe “most protesters [associated with the BLM movement] are trying to incite violence or destroy property”   https://acleddata.com/report/demonstrations-and-political-violence-america-new-data-summer-2020. I guess you are one of them.

 

Perhaps you can try and see both sides of an argument for once in your life. Here I'll help you out  https://time.com/5880229/arrests-black-lives-matter-protests-impact/

42 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

You keep on insisting that BLM rioters are the same as BLM protestors when that blatantly isn't true. The VAST majority of those arrested during the BLM protests were looters and hooligans that came out at night to reek havoc, steal and vandalise. They are NOT the same people as those that were peacefully protesting during the day as an estimated 15 to 26 million people participated in Black Lives Matter protests in the United States, making it one of the largest protest movements in the country's history.  

 

'The BLM marchers were protesting racial injustice and police brutality, which had been seen in several cases in recent years and culminated in the George Floyd case. It was not the marchers who were breaking into stores and lighting fires, but angry interlopers who took advantage of the situation to do their deeds. And, for sure, the worst crimes — destroying government property, vandalism, looting, resisting arrest, etc. — deserved punishment.'   https://kevscohall.medium.com/the-truth-about-blm-riot-arrests-b5d25015db

 

Yet there were arrests of peaceful protestors mostly for illegal assembly charges and being out after curfew. These are misdemeanor charges that yielded mostly fines, community service and short prison terms however 'despite data indicating that demonstrations associated with the BLM movement are overwhelmingly peaceful, one recent poll suggested that 42% of respondents believe “most protesters [associated with the BLM movement] are trying to incite violence or destroy property”   https://acleddata.com/report/demonstrations-and-political-violence-america-new-data-summer-2020. I guess you are one of them.

 

Perhaps you can try and see both sides of an argument for once in your life. Here I'll help you out  https://time.com/5880229/arrests-black-lives-matter-protests-impact/

I have made no such claim. 

 

Are you claiming J6 rioters are the same as J6 protestors? 

 

In any event, how many of the BLM rioters have been arrested again since they were released? 

1 hour ago, mogandave said:

I have made no such claim. 

 

Are you claiming J6 rioters are the same as J6 protestors? 

 

In any event, how many of the BLM rioters have been arrested again since they were released? 

Firstly, no I'm not claiming J6 rioters are the same as J6 protestors. Much like there were millions of peaceful BLM protestors there were also plenty of peaceful protestors on Jan 6th who didn't feel the need to assault police officers, tear down barricades and storm the Capitol. I thought that was obvious. The difference being however is the BLM rioters didn't get pardons. The Jan 6th ones ALL did.

And I have absolutely no idea 'how many of the BLM rioters have been arrested again since they were released' but since they were happily engaged in criminal activities such as looting and arson then I'd guess quite a few. Many/most of them found a ready made excuse to cause havoc and break the law so it doesn't take a genius to surmise they were probably of that persuasion anyway, and are probably still of that persuasion now.  

 

YOU are the one claiming '16,000 arrests for 'left-wing violence'. I'd counter that they weren't left-wingers, just your average, run of the mill criminal.

 

You're all questions so here's one for you - do you think ALL of the Jan 6th rioters should have been pardoned? 

4 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Firstly, no I'm not claiming J6 rioters are the same as J6 protestors. Much like there were millions of peaceful BLM protestors there were also plenty of peaceful protestors on Jan 6th who didn't feel the need to assault police officers, tear down barricades and storm the Capitol. I thought that was obvious. The difference being however is the BLM rioters didn't get pardons. The Jan 6th ones ALL did.

And I have absolutely no idea 'how many of the BLM rioters have been arrested again since they were released' but since they were happily engaged in criminal activities such as looting and arson then I'd guess quite a few. Many/most of them found a ready made excuse to cause havoc and break the law so it doesn't take a genius to surmise they were probably of that persuasion anyway, and are probably still of that persuasion now.  

 

YOU are the one claiming '16,000 arrests for 'left-wing violence'. I'd counter that they weren't left-wingers, just your average, run of the mill criminal.

 

You're all questions so here's one for you - do you think ALL of the Jan 6th rioters should have been pardoned? 

Left wingers including the vice president were condoning and in fact promoting the violence. 

 

Antifa was also stoking violence in the BLM “protests”

 

But you’ll claim that’s not true. 

 

How many years should a typical J6 rioter spend in jail? 

21 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Left wingers including the vice president were condoning and in fact promoting the violence. 

 

Antifa was also stoking violence in the BLM “protests”

 

But you’ll claim that’s not true. 

 

How many years should a typical J6 rioter spend in jail? 

Still deflecting, still coming up with the strawman arguments. Answer the question - do you think ALL of the Jan 6th rioters should have been pardoned?

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

Still deflecting, still coming up with the strawman arguments. Answer the question - do you think ALL of the Jan 6th rioters should have been pardoned?

You don't want to answer, so you claim I am deflecting, typical. 

 

Answer my question, and I’ll answer yours. 

 

 

 

44 minutes ago, mogandave said:

You don't want to answer, so you claim I am deflecting, typical. 

 

Answer my question, and I’ll answer yours. 

 

 

 

Which one. There’s so many. 

15 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Which one. There’s so many. 

How many years should a typical J6 rioter spend in jail? 

4 minutes ago, mogandave said:

How many years should a typical J6 rioter spend in jail? 

Bit of a silly question since I've already answered this in a previous post. To refresh your memory 'the median sentence was 60 days; those who had committed crimes of violence generally received longer incarceration (up to 22 years for Enrique Tarrio, leader of The Proud Boys).' Did you conveniently miss this or do you want to know what I personally think they should have got? If asking personally then the sentance should reflect the severity of the crime (so whatever that is) but I do know they SHOULDN'T have ALL been pardoned.

Anyway, back to my question. Do you think they should ALL have been pardoned?

 

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

Bit of a silly question since I've already answered this in a previous post. To refresh your memory 'the median sentence was 60 days; those who had committed crimes of violence generally received longer incarceration (up to 22 years for Enrique Tarrio, leader of The Proud Boys).' Did you conveniently miss this or do you want to know what I personally think they should have got? If asking personally then the sentance should reflect the severity of the crime (so whatever that is) but I do know they SHOULDN'T have ALL been pardoned.

Anyway, back to my question. Do you think they should ALL have been pardoned?

 

No

 

But I think four years was plenty for 99% of them. 

 

The people that got 60 days were mostly just waved in. 

 

Do you think ALL of Biden’s pardons were appropriate? 

 

 

 

More violent leftists attempting to cut the heads off of ICE agents just trying to do their jobs,

 

Disgusting animals!

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, mogandave said:

How many years should a typical J6 rioter spend in jail? 

However long the sentence they received from the court.

48 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

However long the sentence they received from the court.

How many years did the court give Trump for 34 felonies? 

So I suppose all of you MAGAs, if in Dagestan or Cali, or Beirut in the mid-1980s, and an unmarked van pulled up, a half dozen masked and badge-less guy jumped out, grabbed you without identifying themselves, you’d just assume they wanted to check your visa for overstay, and you'd go with them calmly.

 

The US is not Dagestan or Cali or Beirut, you might say.

 

It is now, under the fascist regime of Trump.

 

ICE are cowards. They get all geared up and masked to go grab 100 lb female garment workers or 73-year old South Asian grandmas or pull 10-year old kids off a Little League baseball diamond. Beat cops go mask-less, wear a badge and name tag, while going after drug gangs, bank robbers, organized crime, and far right scum shooting up churches, Walmarts and synagogues. Beat cops have courage and honor. ICE has nothing of the sort. Bone spurs, maybe, like their master.