25 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Meanwhile,

You're giving them autism, aids, diabetes with multiple vaccinations.

Britman troll

The few unvaccinated children I have seen over the years were in stellar mental and physical health. No allergies, no ADHD, no autism, no epilepsy, brighter than average. 

 

Looking forward to the laughing emojis.

Tell that to these children.... well, you can't because they're DEAD!

 

Fast Facts: Global Measles

"In 2024, 20.6 million children missed the first lifesaving measles vaccine dose."

 

"107,500 lives lost to measles worldwide in 2023, mostly children."

 

"Children less than 5 years old, and those living in low- and middle- income countries, are at the highest risk of severe complications and death."  [those being countries like Thailand...]

 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/global-measles-vaccination/data-research/index.html

 

Just now, rattlesnake said:

The few unvaccinated children I have seen over the years were in stellar mental and physical health. No allergies, no ADHD, no autism, brighter than average. 

 

Looking forward to the laughing emojis.

You blew your credibility by the 2nd word... few     LOL... very inline with your posts in general.... of almost no consequence.  Do prefer objective criticism to laughing emojis?

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Tell that to these children.... well, you can't because they're DEAD!

 

Fast Facts: Global Measles

"In 2024, 20.6 million children missed the first lifesaving measles vaccine dose."

 

"107,500 lives lost to measles worldwide in 2023, mostly children."

 

"Children less than 5 years old, and those living in low- and middle- income countries, are at the highest risk of severe complications and death."  [those being countries like Thailand...]

 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/global-measles-vaccination/data-research/index.html

 

Lack of clean drinking water

28 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

The oldest verified person born before 1960 is Jeanne Calment of France, who was born on 21 February 1875 and died on 4 August 1997, reaching the age of 122 years and 164 days. She is the only person in recorded history to have lived beyond 120 years. Prior to her, the oldest verified person was Sarah Knauss of the United States, born on 24 September 1880 and who died on 30 December 1999, living to be 119 years and 97 days old. These individuals are recognized as the two oldest verified people in history, both surpassing the age of 115 years.

 

Oldest people were born before modern medicine lol

The average life expectancy has increased since the last century, and especially more so in times past. More people have and will reach this higher ages because of vaccines and better diets, especially those living in the Blue Zones, who live longer than anyone on earth on average. Antibiotics has had many more living now then would have died before they came around. A few living extra long in the past are the very few who's genetics helped them. This is from the following link.............

Over the last few decades, life expectancy has increased dramatically around the globe. The average person born in 1960, the earliest year the United Nations began keeping global data, could expect to live to 52.5 years of age. Today, the average is 72. In the UK, where records have been kept longer, this trend is even greater. In 1841, a baby girl was expected to live to just 42 years of age, a boy to 40. In 2016, a baby girl could expect to reach 83; a boy, 79.

The natural conclusion is that both the miracles of modern medicine and public health initiatives have helped us live longer than ever before – so much so that we may, in fact, be running out of innovations to extend life ......................https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20181002-how-long-did-ancient-people-live-life-span-versus-longevity

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8 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

You blew your credibility by the 2nd word... few     LOL... very inline with your posts in general.... of almost no consequence.  Do prefer objective criticism to laughing emojis?

 

A LOL is fine thanks.

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Their parents never got them vaccinated. As young adults, they faced a choice

Some who received little to no vaccination in childhood sought out the shots themselves in adulthood — and risked family relationships

 

"At 30 years old, Lacie Madison just assumed she was fully vaccinated her entire life. But when she got a job at a hospital and was required to check her immunity, the doctor called with shocking news: It appeared she was barely vaccinated as a child, if at all. “I just said, ‘Are you kidding me?’” recalled Madison, now 39.

 

Madison, who was mostly home-schooled as a child in Montana, is part of a small but growing population of U.S. adults who did not receive routine childhood vaccines — a result of parents skipping or delaying shots for their kids over religious or personal reasons, including concerns about safety.

 

As some states work to make it easier for parents to claim exemptions for many childhood vaccines — or seek to eliminate school mandates entirely — Madison’s experience is one that could become more common as today’s schoolchildren age into adulthood. Falling vaccination rates around the country mean more will grow up without protection from debilitating diseases until they are old enough to decide for themselves, typically at age 18. Delaying vaccines can have perilous long-term consequences, and some immunizations are less effective as people age. [emphasis added]

...

The U.S. is experiencing the highest number of measles cases in 33 years as well as an elevated number of cases of pertussis — commonly known as whooping cough. Experts largely attribute falling vaccination rates to misinformation, which accelerated during the pandemic, about the safety and effectiveness of certain vaccines."

 

(more)

 

Washington Post

https://archive.ph/PD9DL

Very selfish by the parents and misleaded too. Without vaccination many diseases/virus' are spreading again. Measles, pox and others. For some deadly. Those parents are not caring but drove their children into danger to die. 

2 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Really? Does everything have to be spelled out to you?

 

Unless the Mennonites live in complete isolation (which they don’t) they will invariably come into contact with children with measles. And because of vaccine misinformation, Texas is having an epidemic so I’m guessing there might be quite a few cases knocking around. They then “transport” that back to their community and because they are not vaccinated, their whole community catches this highly infectious disease, resulting in the deaths of children whose immune systems are not mature enough to fight it off. 
 

Got it?

Measles is not infectious. Or a disease. Not caused by a virus.

 

Got it?

58 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

The oldest verified person born before 1960 is Jeanne Calment of France, who was born on 21 February 1875 and died on 4 August 1997, reaching the age of 122 years and 164 days. She is the only person in recorded history to have lived beyond 120 years. Prior to her, the oldest verified person was Sarah Knauss of the United States, born on 24 September 1880 and who died on 30 December 1999, living to be 119 years and 97 days old. These individuals are recognized as the two oldest verified people in history, both surpassing the age of 115 years.

 

Oldest people were born before modern medicine lol

My grandmother was born in 1880 and lived with us until 1975.

No vaccinations at all. Her older sister managed 105.

33 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

average life expectancy has increased since the last century, and especially more so in times past. More people have and will reach this higher ages

Nope, it's always been the same at 70.

Plato was over 70 when he was executed.

Quote

Measles is not infectious. Or a disease. Not caused by a virus.

 

More unsourced and non-credible rubbish:

 

--AI assisted

 

48 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

The few unvaccinated children I have seen over the years were in stellar mental and physical health. No allergies, no ADHD, no autism, no epilepsy, brighter than average. 

 

Looking forward to the laughing emojis.

And why not?  The facts are that unvaccinated kids do not ALL contract nasty diseases, but that they have a higher risk to contract these diseases that vaccinated kids, (in some cases a far higher risk).  Doesn't it make sense to minimise that risk by getting vaccinations against the common childhood diseases which can debilitate or even kill your kids?

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Nope, it's always been the same at 70.

Plato was over 70 when he was executed.

It's raised and most Romans never made it past 35-40. It's best to research a lot and not just go by AI, as that isn't comprehensive. Read the link I provided, as it's studies done by carbon dating and examination of skeletons from the past. 

43 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

The average life expectancy has increased since the last century, and especially more so in times past. More people have and will reach this higher ages because of vaccines and better diets, especially those living in the Blue Zones, who live longer than anyone on earth on average. Antibiotics has had many more living now then would have died before they came around. A few living extra long in the past are the very few who's genetics helped them. This is from the following link.............

Over the last few decades, life expectancy has increased dramatically around the globe. The average person born in 1960, the earliest year the United Nations began keeping global data, could expect to live to 52.5 years of age. Today, the average is 72. In the UK, where records have been kept longer, this trend is even greater. In 1841, a baby girl was expected to live to just 42 years of age, a boy to 40. In 2016, a baby girl could expect to reach 83; a boy, 79.

The natural conclusion is that both the miracles of modern medicine and public health initiatives have helped us live longer than ever before – so much so that we may, in fact, be running out of innovations to extend life ......................https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20181002-how-long-did-ancient-people-live-life-span-versus-longevity

.

Little to do with vaccines.

Just now, fredwiggy said:

It's raised and most Romans never made it past 35-40. It's best to research a lot and not just go by AI, as that isn't comprehensive. Read the link I provided, as it's studies done by carbon dating and examination of skeletons from the past. 

No electricity

No clean water

Lack of food

Lack of shelter

No fridge

 

 

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Little to do with vaccines.

Actually a major re4ason, along with antibiotics and better surgery techniques. More aware of healthy eating now, compared to less junk food in the past, has balanced things out. Many die now from overeating, which wasn't as prevalent in the past centuries, with less crap foods eaten, but  those Blue Zones are averaging a higher life expectancy than any other places on earth, and life expectancy has increased , even though it won't get much higher for many reasons.

Just now, fredwiggy said:

Actually a major re4ason, along with antibiotics and better surgery techniques. More aware of healthy eating now, compared to less junk food in the past, has balanced things out. Many die now from overeating, which wasn't as prevalent in the past centuries, with less crap foods eaten, but  those Blue Zones are averaging a higher life expectancy than any other places on earth, and life expectancy has increased , even though it won't get much higher for many reasons.

No evidence to support it.

4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

No electricity

No clean water

Lack of food

Lack of shelter

No fridge

 

 

No vaccines or antibiotics or surgery. Electricity doesn't matter. They had clean water and food, especially the rich, who still didn't lve any longer than the average people. 

5 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

No evidence to support it.

That's why you have to go past the AI you always copy and paste, and look further. Some of us have done this for decades, and are history buffs, and actually read links provided.............https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/blue-zones.. Look up Blue Zones, then you'll learn more.......https://www.bluezones.com/

29 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

More unsourced and non-credible rubbish:

 

--AI assisted

 

Oh no! Not AI again. What with AI and factcheckers!!!

 

So you say. Or rather what others say.

 

Have to say firstly that measles is not so easy to detect. It is the most well known of a dozen different ailments. Read the CDC for more information on that point.

 

Where is this elusive virus? The so-called morbillivirus - 'from the Paramyxoviridae family' - has never been isolated and shown to cause anything.

 

However! In saying the above, people, especially certain children, do show the symptoms of measles. The kids most at risk, are those from families that eat unhealthy diets, and/or live in unsanitary conditions. The symptoms of measles are the body getting rid of toxicity. The root causes are dirty water, airborne toxins, bad food and medicines.

 

As for being contagious; many experiments by the US Navy (medical corps) show that it is not as easy, as one might think, to pass one's sickness onto a healthy person.

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Oh no! Not AI again. What with AI and factcheckers.

 

So you say. Or rather what others say.

 

Have to say firstly that measles is not so easy to detect. It is the most well known of a dozen different ailments. Read the CDC for more information on that.

 

Where is this elusive virus. The so-called morbillivirus - from the Paramyxoviridae family - has never been isolated and shown to cause anything.

 

However! In saying the above, people, especially certain children do show the symptoms of measles. The kids most at risk, are those from families that eat unhealthy diets. The symptoms of measles are the body getting rid of toxicity. The root causes are dirty water, airborne toxins, bad food and medicines.

 

As for being contagious; many experiments by the US Navy (medical corps) show that it is not as easy, as one might think, to pass one's sickness onto a healthy person.

Then there's evidence done by studies...............https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/measles/symptoms-causes/syc-20374857.

25 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

It's raised and most Romans never made it past 35-40. It's best to research a lot and not just go by AI, as that isn't comprehensive. Read the link I provided, as it's studies done by carbon dating and examination of skeletons from the past. 

The Romans had lead pipes.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Then there's evidence done by studies...............https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/measles/symptoms-causes/syc-20374857.

Then, there is evidence from the US Navy.

 

www.humanley.com

Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

Then there is evidence from the US Navy.

 

www.humanley.com

Also this..https://www.cdc.gov/measles/hcp/clinical-overview/index.html

30 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Little to do with vaccines.

 

Unsourced non-credible rubbish:

 

"1 in 5 children globally do not have access to lifesaving vaccines. About 4 million deaths worldwide are prevented by childhood vaccination every year. Each dollar spent on immunization saves $52 in low- and middle-income countries. That’s only $18 per child to fully immunize children in low-income countries. CDC works with U.S. and global partners to find and vaccinate children and others missed by vaccination programs.

...

More than 50 million deaths can be prevented through immunization between 2021 and 2030.

• By 2030, it is estimated that:
  • Measles vaccination can save nearly 19 million lives.
  • Hepatitis B vaccination can save 14 million lives."

https://www.cdc.gov/global-immunization/fast-facts/index.html

 

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Then, there is evidence from the US Navy.

 

www.humanley.com

And this..https://www.nfid.org/infectious-disease/measles/

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

And this..https://www.nfid.org/infectious-disease/measles/

But no experiments. No trials. Regurgitated nonsense.

 

I [refer the US Navy experiments thanks Fred Sir.

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

The few unvaccinated children I have seen over the years were in stellar mental and physical health. No allergies, no ADHD, no autism, brighter than average. 

 

Looking forward to the laughing emojis.

You seem to be interested in scientifically studying how vaccination vs non-vaccination affects people's health outcomes.

 

To be useful, studies must be well designed to eliminate or at least reduce as far as practical all selection factors that will bias any result.  The data point you presented is not useful because of severe selection bias. 

 

Please show us how well you understand scientific studies by identifying the selection factors that introduce bias in your data point.

10 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Unsourced non-credible rubbish:

 

"1 in 5 children globally do not have access to lifesaving vaccines. About 4 million deaths worldwide are prevented by childhood vaccination every year. Each dollar spent on immunization saves $52 in low- and middle-income countries. That’s only $18 per child to fully immunize children in low-income countries. CDC works with U.S. and global partners to find and vaccinate children and others missed by vaccination programs.

...

More than 50 million deaths can be prevented through immunization between 2021 and 2030.

• By 2030, it is estimated that:
  • Measles vaccination can save nearly 19 million lives.
  • Hepatitis B vaccination can save 14 million lives."

https://www.cdc.gov/global-immunization/fast-facts/index.html

 

I reckon Kennedy should get Elon in to clear out the CDC www. Chuck our the servers and start again using facts, integrity and truth.

 

What your post says is nonsense.