16 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

It seems sadly some posters are treating this topic as amusement 

Well it's NOT !!!

Look at the eyes of these poor darlings who are squashed into cages and crying !!

Have some heart please 

Many of these dogs I heard are stolen from the owner and transported to Vietnam 

 

Yes, many pets are stolen and then eaten by people who actually think a domestic animal means Pad Krapow or meat on a stick. The way a country appears is how it treats it's children and animals, especially the  domestic ones. Even Korea has woken up about this practice, and it will soon be illegal there. It is a sick practice that hopefully will be outlawed everywhere. It also shows how little respect is shown towards animals that should be regarded as companions and life savers, if treated properly...............https://www.humaneworld.org/en/about-asias-dog-meat-trade-faqs This from the following link.............“Severe animal suffering is endemic to the dog meat trade. The animals are crammed by the hundreds onto the backs of trucks, packed so tightly in cages that they are unable to move. In Viet Nam, it is not uncommon for dogs to be violently force-fed with a tube down the throat in order to boost their weight before sending them to slaughter. Dogs are typically driven for days or weeks, often sick and injured, and many die from suffocation, dehydration or heat stroke long before they reach their destination.” - Humane Society International...................https://thesavemovement.org/the-moral-dilemma-of-eating-dogs/

I asked my Chinese gf what some of the menu dishes were at a restaurant in a Chinese section of Vancouver, many years ago. One of the meals was dog. The food was great and every time we went back there I had to tell her not order me dog. 

 

It disgusts me that a restaurant in a (once) first world country would server dog to people who have money. I understand that if one is hungry in other 3rd world countries that they may eat dogs if they are free on the streets. Dogs have been domesticated by humans (form wolves) thousands of years ago. If humans eat dog, when they don't have to, then what does it make them?

S. Korea , a modern country, recently outlawed eating dogs.  Apparently for some who enjoy eating Fido it has special taste.  For Vietnam what about cats? 

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Yes thankyou Trippy 

I'm an animal lover although I draw the line at Monkeys in Lopburi not behaving well and I believe they need some kind of discipline and order 

I was slapped on the back of my head by one last March but I'm still a animal lover and hopefully will help these poor dogs 

We eat cows and sheep!

1 minute ago, sqwakvfr said:

S. Korea , a modern country, recently outlawed eating dogs.  Apparently for some who enjoy eating Fido it has special taste.  For Vietnam what about cats? 

It takes awhile to bring some places out of stone age thinking. Especially in Asia, where some animals body parts, rhino horns, bear gall bladders and tiger penis, along with shark fin soup, dog and cat meat, and most anything else from outdated, superstition thinking. Some things taste nasty but they'll eat them from that thinking. Look at the hundreds that die here eating raw fish in SomTam.

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

We eat cows and sheep!

How many cows and sheep do you see sleeping and playing with people, saving people from fires and drownings, sniffing out drug smugglers and used for the disabled? 

Just now, fredwiggy said:

How many cows and sheep do you see sleeping and playing with people, saving people from fires and drownings, sniffing out drug smugglers and used for the disabled? 

So

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

However I was in tears 😭

 

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

poor defenceless creatures 

If I told you I ate rabbit in the past would you shed a tear. 

 

American apparently. Go to Springfield, Ohio, where they are "eating the cats, they're eating the dogs."

From a purely objective point of view, why would eating wild soi dogs be considered cruel, or even dogs raised for meat, and yet eating beef, pork, lamb or sheep be considered acceptable?

 

Does anybody have a reasonable answer for this? Personally I don't eat beef, pork or lamb because I would not be willing to slaughter those animals myself. Chicken and fish, no problem. 

49 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

How many cows and sheep do you see sleeping and playing with people, saving people from fires and drownings, sniffing out drug smugglers and used for the disabled? 

You make a reasonable point, and there is no doubt that there are a lot of truly extraordinary dogs in this world, many are well trained and deserving of great affection. But I don't think that applies to soi dogs in general, nor dogs raised for meat consumption. 

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

From a purely objective point of view, why would eating wild soi dogs be considered cruel, or even dogs raised for meat, and yet eating beef, pork, lamb or sheep be considered acceptable?

 

Does anybody have a reasonable answer for this? Personally I don't eat beef, pork or lamb because I would not be willing to slaughter those animals myself. Chicken and fish, no problem. 

 

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTfz_taMrR3p44aU9_lYZG0kPLlQ_JVjm95Q&s

 

 

I am not offering an opinion just posting a vivid image of the dilemma... 

Not eaten animals for 53 years but have no objection to those who do, including dogs, all animals are equal not some more than others. Making a difference between livestock and domestic is just artificial human hypocrisy. eat horses as well if you like. No animal is more worthy of being eaten than a bloody dog.

Historically, human consumption of dog meat has been recorded in many parts of the world.

 

In the 21st century, dog meat is consumed to a limited extent in Cambodia, China, parts of Northeastern India, Indonesia, Ghana, Laos, Nigeria, South Korea, Switzerland, and Vietnam.

 

In these areas, the legality of dog meat consumption varies with some nations permitting it or lacking a nationwide ban. It was estimated in 2014 that worldwide, 25 million dogs were eaten each year by humans.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat

 

7 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

It was estimated in 2014 that worldwide, 25 million dogs were eaten each year by humans.

 

Just a pity it was not 125 million 😁

30 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

You make a reasonable point, and there is no doubt that there are a lot of truly extraordinary dogs in this world, many are well trained and deserving of great affection. But I don't think that applies to soi dogs in general, nor dogs raised for meat consumption. 

If you would read the links, you would see how barbaric and inhumane this practice is. These are very disturbed people eating many pets that are stolen, and if anyone would actually see the conditions, any normal thinker would change their mind. Cats and dogs are domestic pets. That some countries let them run wild and do damage like they do here, also shows the lack of respect for life itself. Some hate dogs, and they have their opinion because of that, which doesn't mean anything. More countries will ban the practice the faster they understand how the practice operates. 

I don't eat dogs or cats.

 

But I just read about a 72 year old horse butcher, who (of course) eats horse. But he doesen't eat chicken.

 

"I personally enjoy eating horse meat," however, he no longer eats chicken. "I don't want an animal that's only been in the world for 40 days just so we can eat it."

 

Somehow logical. Maybe you have to overthink this and try dog in Vietnam 😋?

I admit I haven't been feeling well since I got back from Thailand especially all the PTSD I suffered , hearing about this dog tragedy made it much worse 

I still recovering over the violent  assault in Lopburi back in March where police were ineffective 

 

It really is a crying shame the world allows this tragedy of dog cruelty 

 

1 minute ago, Schoggibueb said:

I don't eat dogs or cats.

 

But I just read about a 72 year old horse butcher, who (of course) eats horse. But he doesen't eat chicken.

 

"I personally enjoy eating horse meat," however, he no longer eats chicken. "I don't want an animal that's only been in the world for 40 days just so we can eat it."

 

Somehow logical. Maybe you have to overthink this and try dog in Vietnam 😋?

Don't freak out now... Just pulling your leg a bit.

5 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

I don't eat dogs or cats.

 

But I just read about a 72 year old horse butcher, who (of course) eats horse. But he doesen't eat chicken.

 

"I personally enjoy eating horse meat," however, he no longer eats chicken. "I don't want an animal that's only been in the world for 40 days just so we can eat it."

 

Somehow logical. Maybe you have to overthink this and try dog in Vietnam 😋?

Never !

The dog was probably a pet once to someone 😭

44 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

From a purely objective point of view, why would eating wild soi dogs be considered cruel, or even dogs raised for meat, and yet eating beef, pork, lamb or sheep be considered acceptable?

 

Does anybody have a reasonable answer for this? Personally I don't eat beef, pork or lamb because I would not be willing to slaughter those animals myself. Chicken and fish, no problem. 

Another link to read, to understand the mentality behind those involved in it........https://www.humaneworld.org/en/blog/progress-against-dog-cat-meat-trade.

A former cat farm owner changed his mind, and restaurant owner................finally seeing them as animals worthy of respect and love.. It's a change that's happening all over, and eventually, like the stop and prosecution of the sale of elephant ivory, and killing of for profit, they'll be stopped....................https://www.humaneworld.org/en/blog/vietnam-cat-meat-farm-closure

3 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Eating dogs ,how cruel

poor defenceless creatures  

I was almost in tears watching this cow getting attacked by this poor defenceless dog. 

 

Sounds like a lot of "dog haters" on here ?

Why do you all hate dogs ?

Is it because of the Soi dogs you see and who bark at you ?

Some won't read the links , being in denial or plainly having a hatred towards dogs for a personal reason, but if they saw the way the animals are drowned before being used as meat, which in some areas is the nonsense reason of making good luck, they might understand people like this are just one step closer to harming humans, which has been proven in the study of the minds of serial killers, From the link.......

Stabbing/Beating to death

Many dogs are clubbed over the head (frequently not achieving unconsciousness but rather just being hurt) and then stabbed in the throat. Dogs are often hung upside down when they have their throats slit, allowing drainage of blood into a bucket. This is often then used for gravy. The time to death can be more than 5 minutes, during which the dog suffers immensely. In other instances, dogs are tied up in bags and beaten to death.

Blowtorching

At the live markets of North Sulawesi, Indonesia, blowtorching is a common way of slaughtering cats and dogs. The animals are first clubbed over the head and then blow torched. During our visits, every animal we witnessed was blowtorched while still conscious and some were even trying to get up. The sound the dogs make is particularly harrowing, these animals can not scream but they whimper in severe agony as their lives come to an end.

..........https://www.four-paws.org/campaigns-topics/campaigns/end-the-dog-cat-meat-trade/the-truth/the-facts

5 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Sounds like a lot of "dog haters" on here ?

Why do you all hate dogs ?

Is it because of the Soi dogs you see and who bark at you ?

If a person grew up with dogs, they're not likely to want to  see them suffer. If they've had a bad experience with a dog, or if they're parents also didn't like them or have them around, they're more likely to have a hatred towards them , which is irrational, as dogs have proven to be more then just companions and pets, along with cats. 

17 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Never !

The dog was probably a pet once to someone 😭

 

So it's ok if they were never a pet then?

3 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

I was slapped on the back of my head by one last March

Strewth, give that monkey a banana.

20 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

I still recovering over the violent  assault in Lopburi back in March where police were ineffective 

Previously you stated that you were, "Almost violently assaulted". Seems the fish you caught gets bigger every time you tell the story. 

From this link, it shows that the majority of Vietnamese people are against the trade and don't see it as part of their culture anyway. That means some started the practice, much like dog fighting, and others. like sheep. followed, of course many for profit................Each year, more than six million dogs and cats are brutally slaughtered in Vietnam. A FOUR PAWS survey conducted in early 2021 across Vietnam found that the vast majority of Vietnamese want their government to take action. 91% of participants responded saying that the trade should be banned or discouraged. When asked if they would support a ban on the dog and cat meat trade, 88% of respondents said that they would be in favor of such a measure. In addition, respondents were asked if they felt consumption of dog and cat meat was part of Vietnamese culture, with the resounding answer being no, with 95% indicating that this was not part of their culture.  ............https://www.fourpawsusa.org/our-stories/press-releases/highway-to-hell-takes-dogs-and-cats-to-slaughter