3 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

 

There are a lot of prostitutes living in those dingy buildings as well. He ends up getting frustrated in a small room and paying to bang someone next door all the time, then drinking beer in the room.

 

He can't resist because it's being offered on the doorstep or he is listening to her do it all the time with other residents. It turns into an unescapable situation.

Sounds like you are talking about you?

4 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

But it's very true ...the single farang moves to Pattaya and finds that only company he has (without a wife ) is PAID company,that soon wears off !

It helps if you have some interpersonal skills and can talk to people, maybe even have friends, i realise people often lack those skills,  they are people who spend most of the time on their own

2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Rob Astbury who sold a lot of Bruno’s 91 storey Jomtien fantasy units with everyone losing their money sadly did.

I don’t think it was depression, more shame and frustration of dealing with so many who lost their life savings.

 

 

How do you know that to be true?

A brilliant man and author of books 

 

He was also my Real Estate agent actually when I bought on Australia's Gold Coast

 

He was suffering from a terminal illness which was well known during his last 10 years of life , he passed away in his sleep according to media 

5 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

It helps if you have some interpersonal skills and can talk to people, maybe even have friends, i realise people often lack those skills,  they are people who spend most of the time on their own

That maybe the case ..but ...where do they meet these new social connections, bars ?

35 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

That maybe the case ..but ...where do they meet these new social connections, bars ?

it's easier if you have interests prior to coming to Pattaya, golf, cycling, running, squash, badminton , padel, anything really where people participate, many groups and clubs about

Suicide hurts the people left behind. I have taken two people to see hospital psychiatrists over the past 36 years. One, because of depression, another because of paranoid delusions. The first was encouraged to take up hobbies, which worked. The second was given medicine to control it, which worked.

While both were Thais, so the meetings were in Thai, I know most Thai doctors speak English to varying degrees, so it is worth an expat visiting a hospital to speak to an English-speaking psychiatrist, if medicine may be required, or a simply say to the reception that you need to talk to someone about depression, for instance.

It isn't a huge step to talk to someone. Just take that step if you feel depressed.

52 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Sounds like you are talking about you?

Or how you will end up.

 

There is plenty of evidence around that a whoring lifestyle in a place like pattaya does not end well. Those guys in small rooms are not exceptions, they are guys like you who thought they moved to paradise 10 years ago.

3 minutes ago, Mark1969 said:

Or how you will end up.

Nah not my kind of place, good luck

28 minutes ago, Mark1969 said:

Or how you will end up.

 

There is plenty of evidence around that a whoring lifestyle in a place like pattaya does not end well. Those guys in small rooms are not exceptions, they are guys like you who thought they moved to paradise 10 years ago.

Very true 

The retirement novelty soon wears off 

The Thai "friends" weren't really friends when you moved over to Pattaya , the GF who you moved over for  changed ,the relationship changed then you suddenly were alone before you lost everything .

Now the depression  starts .

 

Pattaya is no longer the excited dream as they lay on a bed in a hot room at the flybird condominium with the door open listening to Lemon tree ,the Thai GF long gone 

 

On 10/13/2025 at 6:47 AM, georgegeorgia said:

Just read in Pattaya news another suicide by a American man in Jomtien who left a letter of suicide 

 

Absolutely sad this is going on, terrible no counselling is available 

 

But I would like to complete studies & analysis on this ,where could I get a list maybe of Pattaya Suicides on 2025?

I'm only interested in farang/foreigners suicides 

 

Do you personally know of a farang who committed suicide in Pattaya ?

 

They say the people can be acting "normal " days before their suicide some  even in a happy state ?

 

He ran out of money.
Committed suicide a few hour after Trump's announcement about China-tariffs.

Bitcoin and other coins collapsed...
Nobody knows if any connection, but you can check on X: several people had coins, heavily leveraged. One person lost 2 million, all his investment.
Another person opened a bitcoin account half hour before the announcement of Trump, went short with lots of leverage, made 180 million dollar
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1 hour ago, Mark1969 said:

Or how you will end up.

 

There is plenty of evidence around that a whoring lifestyle in a place like pattaya does not end well. Those guys in small rooms are not exceptions, they are guys like you who thought they moved to paradise 10 years ago.

Someone can't do what you do, mope around all day on their own, unable to talk to people normally, of course they go a bit crazy

43 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Someone can't do what you do, mope around all day on their own, unable to talk to people normally, of course they go a bit crazy

Depends if one is a introvert 

I wonder if introverts do ok in somewhere like Pattaya ?

What are they looking for ?

They like their own company thus seeing thousands of 21sqm studios in Pattaya 

11 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Depends if one is a introvert 

I wonder if introverts do ok in somewhere like Pattaya ?

What are they looking for ?

They like their own company thus seeing thousands of 21sqm studios in Pattaya 

I don't think it's healthy being on your own most of the time, introverted or not

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

Someone can't do what you do, mope around all day on their own, unable to talk to people normally, of course they go a bit crazy

I dunno, man. I think I'm better off being somewhat of a loner in Pattaya. It saves me from getting involved in other people's problems. There is a difference between socializing and getting involved.

 

It's not good for people who are suicidal though. They need to get out of their heads and socialize, ask for help, etc.

On 10/12/2025 at 9:47 PM, georgegeorgia said:

Just read in Pattaya news another suicide by a American man in Jomtien who left a letter of suicide 

 

Absolutely sad this is going on, terrible no counselling is available 

 

But I would like to complete studies & analysis on this ,where could I get a list maybe of Pattaya Suicides on 2025?

I'm only interested in farang/foreigners suicides 

 

Do you personally know of a farang who committed suicide in Pattaya ?

 

They say the people can be acting "normal " days before their suicide some  even in a happy state ?

 

 

i have a friend that committed suicide three days ago. I have his phone number, you can contact him. Just mention my name. He will tell you his story. Very sad. 

40 minutes ago, GoodieAfterDark said:

 

i have a friend that committed suicide three days ago. I have his phone number, you can contact him. Just mention my name. He will tell you his story. Very sad. 

Omg 😱 

Shocking tragedy it really is.

And they leave questions to the family on why ? 

The guilt , etc on the family who blame themselves 

19 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

59 minutes ago, GoodieAfterDark said:

i have a friend that committed suicide three days ago. I have his phone number, you can contact him. Just mention my name. He will tell you his story. Very sad. 

Omg 😱 

Shocking tragedy it really is.

And they leave questions to the family on why ? 

The guilt , etc on the family who blame themselves

Georgie boy, Will you call him? 

 

9 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

 

There are a lot of prostitutes living in those dingy buildings as well. He ends up getting frustrated in a small room and paying to bang someone next door all the time, then drinking beer in the room.

 

He can't resist because it's being offered on the doorstep or he is listening to her do it all the time with other residents. It turns into an unescapable situation.

Banging the next door neighbour and drinking beer doesn't sound too bad.

Could be a retirees dream.

2 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Banging the next door neighbour and drinking beer doesn't sound too bad.

Could be a retirees dream.

It depends in how they handle it. Sounds like a dream when I was in college.

4 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Very true 

The retirement novelty soon wears off 

The Thai "friends" weren't really friends when you moved over to Pattaya , the GF who you moved over for  changed ,the relationship changed then you suddenly were alone before you lost everything .

Now the depression  starts .

 

Pattaya is no longer the excited dream as they lay on a bed in a hot room at the flybird condominium with the door open listening to Lemon tree ,the Thai GF long gone 

 

And some weirdo peering through the slat door  doesn't help

On 10/13/2025 at 12:21 PM, scubascuba3 said:

Is counselling going to help someone who has run out of money? 

 

Should be a civilised way to pull the plug for any reason, could be ill health, money, anything

 

 

 

Fentanyl.  I've spoken to a few people who were revived after an OD and was told that it's a euphoric feeling. Your breathing gradually shuts down and you die peacefully.  One guy they revived at my former job went into a rage because his life was so bad that he didn't want to come back.  He was a 21 year old native kid. 

 

As for OP: complete some form of study at an accredited university.  Statistics and anthropology would be a good start.  It's important to be able to read and understand academic papers, and that requires some work.  This isn't the topic to cut your teeth on. 

 

On 10/13/2025 at 11:47 AM, georgegeorgia said:

 

Do you personally know of a farang who committed suicide in Pattaya ?

 

Not in Pattaya, but....

Somewhere.

 

Why do you ask?

 

what a weird topic!

Sounds like Dr.Kevorkian v.2 is doing a research for his target audience in Thailand.[sarcasm/humor]

Better to make a list of who should...

9 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Omg 😱 

Shocking tragedy it really is.

And they leave questions to the family on why ? 

The guilt , etc on the family who blame themselves 

They should leave a note etc so family get closure. I know of someone who created a file of important info, banks accounts, etc for his wife to refer to after his death he was 80 something, that's the way to do it

6 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

They should leave a note etc so family get closure. I know of someone who created a file of important info, banks accounts, etc for his wife to refer to after his death he was 80 something, that's the way to do it

The "tyranny of the shoulds" is a psychological concept describing the pressure to meet an unrealistic, idealized version of oneself, often leading to self-criticism, stress, and feelings of inadequacy. This concept, coined by psychoanalyst Karen Horney, comes from a rigid set of internal or external "shoulds" and "should nots" about how one ought to act, feel, or live. Examples include "I should be more successful" or "I shouldn't make mistakes," which can cause guilt and frustration when the ideal is not met. 

2 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

The "tyranny of the shoulds" is a psychological concept describing the pressure to meet an unrealistic, idealized version of oneself, often leading to self-criticism, stress, and feelings of inadequacy. This concept, coined by psychoanalyst Karen Horney, comes from a rigid set of internal or external "shoulds" and "should nots" about how one ought to act, feel, or live. Examples include "I should be more successful" or "I shouldn't make mistakes," which can cause guilt and frustration when the ideal is not met. 

You think a husband shouldn't leave details of assets and guides who to contact etc etc for the wife? you know the protocol of the dead beat farang

20 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

You think a husband shouldn't leave details of assets and guides who to contact etc etc for the wife? you know the protocol of the dead beat farang

It's up to them bro, not you. You don't know what they "should" do better then they do, because you are not them.

 

You're projecting what you would do onto other people. A lot of your comments are Bs posts about how people "should" behave, be more social, etc.

Thank you for posting and raising awareness, this is indeed tragic..

Unfortunately, sometimes when people feel overwhelmed and hopeless, they can start thinking about ending their own life, there is a safe space where those concerned about themselves or loved ones can talk to someone who listens without prejudice and judgement. I am a British-qualified counsellor and can be contacted below.

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

It's up to them bro, not you. You don't know what they "should" do better then they do, because you are not them.

 

You're projecting what you would do onto other people. A lot of your comments are Bs posts about how people "should" behave, be more social, etc.

yeah i do know better, don't forget these are dead beat farang who aren't thinking properly